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Posted: **Sun Dec 22, 2019 7:47 am**

Novae Romae wrote:
Kuriko wrote:One member of a region writing a commendation for another member of the same region does not a self-commendation make. Now, if a member of a region writes a commendation for the region they're in, then that would be considered a self-commendation. Might want to re-check your definition of what makes a self-commendation a self-commendation.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=WA_pa ... /council=2

Authored by Firstaria.

Firstaria is in the 10000 Islands. They authored the resolution. I guess this would make it a self-commendation then, wouldn't it.

Unless Firstaria was not in 10000 islands at the time of the resolution, in which case I'll accept being false.

Firstaria was a member of ITALIA when he wrote the original and the successor resolution to Commend 10000 Islands. So no, it was not a self-commendation. The proposal on the books right now was edited and finished by AMOM after Firstaria CTEd in 2010, that's why he added Firstaria at the bottom of it.

Posted: **Sun Dec 22, 2019 8:10 am**

Kuriko wrote:
Novae Romae wrote:
https://www.nationstates.net/page=WA_pa ... /council=2

Firstaria is in the 10000 Islands. They authored the resolution. I guess this would make it a self-commendation then, wouldn't it.

Unless Firstaria was not in 10000 islands at the time of the resolution, in which case I'll accept being false.

Firstaria was a member of ITALIA when he wrote the original and the successor resolution to Commend 10000 Islands. So no, it was not a self-commendation. The proposal on the books right now was edited and finished by AMOM after Firstaria CTEd in 2010, that's why he added Firstaria at the bottom of it.

Ah, I see, thanks for the clarification.

Posted: **Mon Dec 23, 2019 9:16 am**

South Reinkalistan wrote:
Honeydewistania wrote:Because it is a deserving candidate for commendation, so the big delegates will support it as it represents the opinions of the regions members

OOC: I believe a more accurate way of describing it is that the big delegates are using their endorsements (supplied by mostly inactive nations) to swing a vote in favour of commending one of their fellow defenders.

Sorry, which of the big delegates are extremely defender-biased?

Posted: **Mon Dec 23, 2019 10:22 am**

Lesser Norp wrote:
South Reinkalistan wrote:OOC: I believe a more accurate way of describing it is that the big delegates are using their endorsements (supplied by mostly inactive nations) to swing a vote in favour of commending one of their fellow defenders.

Sorry, which of the big delegates are extremely defender-biased?

The delegates of TSP, TRR, and XKI are the defender aligned ones, by virtue of region alignment. Every other large region (except Osiris, which is raider) is some forms of I/independent or neutral.

Posted: **Mon Dec 23, 2019 12:33 pm**

Lord Dominator wrote:
Lesser Norp wrote:Sorry, which of the big delegates are extremely defender-biased?

The delegates of TSP, TRR, and XKI are the defender aligned ones, by virtue of region alignment. Every other large region (except Osiris, which is raider) is some forms of I/independent or neutral.

Is neutral another word for dead?

Posted: **Mon Dec 23, 2019 12:50 pm**

Aclion wrote:
Lord Dominator wrote:The delegates of TSP, TRR, and XKI are the defender aligned ones, by virtue of region alignment. Every other large region (except Osiris, which is raider) is some forms of I/independent or neutral.

Is neutral another word for dead?

Neutral usually means lacking a different alignment, generally from legal limits or not having a military. Neutral is essentially the alignment of not having made a choice or choosing to be uninvolved in R/D.

Posted: **Mon Dec 23, 2019 1:44 pm**

so yes.

Posted: **Mon Dec 23, 2019 2:13 pm**

South Reinkalistan wrote:OOC: Ah, yes, just as expected. All the major delegates immediately dominating the vote. Yay!

I find this quite funny considering the "for" votes from individual nations is greater than the entirety of the "against" votes.

Posted: **Mon Dec 23, 2019 2:31 pm**

Aclion wrote:so yes.

Most regions are neutral, so no.

Posted: **Tue Dec 24, 2019 7:48 am**

Aclion wrote:so yes.

TNP isn't dead...

Just to note, even NPO is voting for

Posted: **Tue Dec 24, 2019 1:31 pm**

Marxist Germany wrote:
Aclion wrote:so yes.

TNP isn't dead...

Just to note, even NPO is voting for

The NPO has no ideological side that would determine the nature of our vote based on membership on either side of the R/D spectrum, and we are supporting the proposal because of the merits of the Commendee as listed here.

Posted: **Tue Dec 24, 2019 1:42 pm**

Marxist Germany wrote:
Aclion wrote:so yes.

TNP isn't dead...

Just to note, even NPO is voting for

TNP is Independent so would not be covered under Aclion's neutral = dead.

Posted: **Tue Dec 24, 2019 2:21 pm**

Praeceps wrote:
Marxist Germany wrote:TNP isn't dead...

Just to note, even NPO is voting for

TNP is Independent so would not be covered under Aclion's neutral = dead.

I would dispute that TNP is big i Independent, we don't even have the Manifesto pinned any more

Posted: **Tue Dec 24, 2019 2:59 pm**

The Notorious Mad Jack wrote:
Praeceps wrote:TNP is Independent so would not be covered under Aclion's neutral = dead.

I would dispute that TNP is big i Independent, we don't even have the Manifesto pinned any more

What do you mean by "big i independent", because I've heard that before but I still don't know what it means.

Posted: **Tue Dec 24, 2019 3:07 pm**

Novae Romae wrote:
The Notorious Mad Jack wrote:I would dispute that TNP is big i Independent, we don't even have the Manifesto pinned any more

What do you mean by "big i independent", because I've heard that before but I still don't know what it means.

Big I Independent subscribes to a specific philosophy of being Independent, little i independent just indicates willingness to do both raiding and defending.

Posted: **Tue Dec 24, 2019 3:12 pm**

Lord Dominator wrote:
Novae Romae wrote:
What do you mean by "big i independent", because I've heard that before but I still don't know what it means.

Big I Independent subscribes to a specific philosophy of being Independent, little i independent just indicates willingness to do both raiding and defending.

Ah, I see, alright cool, thank you!

Posted: **Tue Dec 24, 2019 4:23 pm**

The Notorious Mad Jack wrote:
Praeceps wrote:TNP is Independent so would not be covered under Aclion's neutral = dead.

I would dispute that TNP is big i Independent, we don't even have the Manifesto pinned any more

A dispatch pinned or not pinned does not make a region an ideology (LWU pinning a defender dispatch wouldn't make them defender). That being said, when you asked why the dispatch was unpinned, you were told that there wasn't enough room for all of the dispatches. If TNP has moved away from Independence, I must have missed that Delegate declaration.

That being said, I think we're getting a bit off-topic here.

Posted: **Wed Dec 25, 2019 8:36 am**

Praeceps wrote:
Marxist Germany wrote:TNP isn't dead...

Just to note, even NPO is voting for

TNP is Independent so would not be covered under Aclion's neutral = dead.

Not neutral=dead
neutral={dead,...}

Posted: **Thu Dec 26, 2019 4:36 am**

Commend Markanite was passed 10,192 votes to 2,208.

Posted: **Thu Dec 26, 2019 9:21 am**

Congrats to Kuriko on becoming the most-authored player in the SC

Posted: **Thu Dec 26, 2019 9:22 am**

Congratulations Kuriko :clap:

Posted: **Sun Dec 29, 2019 2:22 am**

Thank you to everyone who voted for this, it is quite the honour!

Thank you and congratulations to Kuriko!

Posted: **Sun Dec 29, 2019 12:11 pm**

Markanite wrote:Thank you to everyone who voted for this, it is quite the honour!

Thank you and congratulations to Kuriko!

Congratulations Mark :clap:

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