[PASSED] Prevention of Forced Sterilisation

[Separatist Peoples]

"As much as you may like to believe that sterilisation stops molesters from reoffending, you'd be mistaken, and it's a travesty that you think otherwise."

It doesn't matter if it stops them. It is done because that is what such scum deserve.

Regardless, we oppose this pro-rapist resolution.

"That is one spicy meatball, ambassador. Arguing that one is pro-rapist because one is against excessive mutilation is patently absurd."

[The New Sicilian State]

"That is one spicy meatball, ambassador. Arguing that one is pro-rapist because one is against excessive mutilation is patently absurd."

"I see it more as an andouille sausage."

[Richonne]

I disagree. Forced Sterilisation needs to be increased tenfold.

[Bear Connors Paradiso]

Didn't we, the WA, already vote for such an issue a few months ago?

And does thou nations not look upon a now clear sky with the pollution of man gone from the plague? Forced sterilization helps save the Earth, because clearly humanity cannot get its shei together.

[Richonne]

Didn't we, the WA, already vote for such an issue a few months ago?

And does thou nations not look upon a now clear sky with the pollution of man gone from the plague? Forced sterilization helps save the Earth, because clearly humanity cannot get its shei together.

Well they are humans, they are imbeciles by nature.

[Polis Diamonil]

Polis Diamonil still opposes this resolution, just as we opposed the last one of its kind. We don't currently practice forced sterilization, but we are unimpressed by arguments that it is always a deprivation of rights given the deprecatory function of replication, and consider achieving full voluntary sterilization a long-term policy project. We would prefer to preserve our right to enact compulsory sterilization in the event that we achieve 100% compliance, thereby to safeguard the achievement of the cloning-based system.

Indeed, the present status quo in Polis Diamonil is that only criminals are not typically sterile. Consider the range of childhoods thus being preserved, and reconsider the civil rights argument. Is this body truly endorsing that it is a civil right for people to neglect and mistreat their children?

[Ave Gloriana]

I disagree. Forced Sterilisation needs to be increased tenfold.

Finally.

[Maowi]

Polis Diamonil still opposes this resolution, just as we opposed the last one of its kind. We don't currently practice forced sterilization, but we are unimpressed by arguments that it is always a deprivation of rights given the deprecatory function of replication, and consider achieving full voluntary sterilization a long-term policy project. We would prefer to preserve our right to enact compulsory sterilization in the event that we achieve 100% compliance, thereby to safeguard the achievement of the cloning-based system.

Indeed, the present status quo in Polis Diamonil is that only criminals are not typically sterile. Consider the range of childhoods thus being preserved, and reconsider the civil rights argument. Is this body truly endorsing that it is a civil right for people to neglect and mistreat their children?

"Ambassador, the World Assembly in no way endorses the neglect or mistreatment of children - in fact, it's passed a resolution against those. The incompetence or malice of some is no reason to deny a basic right to others."

[Latidonia]

"Latidonia supports the intentions of this resolution, but views its defective writing to be an issue. This body shouldn't legislate carelessly, otherwise its legitimacy will deteriorate. As for questions pertinent to the intended contents of the resolution - we are shocked to see suggestions of increasing sterilisation. Forced sterilisation is a needless, cruel and punitive operation, which any state or body with respect for human rights and human dignity should abstain from. The General Assembly must boldly stand for human rights and social justice."

Latidonia's official opinion on the proposal.

[Youssath]

"While its intentions are noble, we believe that they are misguided under the false pretence of 'despotic regimes'. Clearly, this is a bill meant to protect the civil rights of sexual offenders, so why on Earth does the promotion of democracy have got to do with "civil rights" and the prevention of forced sterilization exactly?"

"In lieu of the points raised down in my note along with Latidonia, this proposal is not within the best interests of everyone here, and therefore we shall vote against this resolution until such points have been thoroughly addressed."

Official stance of Youssath: Prevention of Forced Sterilization

[Maowi]

"While its intentions are noble, we believe that they are misguided under the false pretence of 'despotic regimes'. Clearly, this is a bill meant to protect the civil rights of sexual offenders, so why on Earth does the promotion of democracy have got to do with "civil rights" and the prevention of forced sterilization exactly?"

"In lieu of the points raised down in my note along with Latidonia, this proposal is not within the best interests of everyone here, and therefore we shall vote against this resolution until such points have been thoroughly addressed."

Official stance of Youssath: Prevention of Forced Sterilization

"Ambassador, most if not all of these points are strawmen, logically incoherent, or both. You seem to suggest that forcibly sterilising a sexual offender is somehow a benefit to the victim and their family; that deterrence is somehow an excuse for mistreating offenders, and achieving only the hindrance of their rehabilitation; that just because there are other ways of targeting minorities, it's not worth addressing this method; that the proposal referring once to despotic regimes in the preamble somehow means that its entire stated purpose is to target despotic regimes; that because some nations might not comply with a resolution, we may as well not pass it; that being unable to forcibly sterilise an offender is the reason for Youssath's prison system failing to adequately protect its prisoners; that the mental disorders occurring as a result of forced sterilisation are for some reason preferable to those occurring as a result of imprisonment; that the lack of availability of the grossly cruel punishment of forced sterilisation will necessarily result in Youssathian judges handing out unfair sentences ... I could go on.

"To be quite honest, I expected no better from a nation that views compliance with World Assembly legislation so casually as Youssath."

[Ave Gloriana]

Since this abominable resolution is likely to pass, His Majesty has ordered the mass sterilisation of all subjects of the Imperial Confederation.

All future breeding will be conducted via genetic engineering through the Imperial Breeding Program.

Proclamation

[Separatist Peoples]

Since this abominable resolution is likely to pass, His Majesty has ordered the mass sterilisation of all subjects of the Imperial Confederation.

All future breeding will be conducted via genetic engineering through the Imperial Breeding Program.

Proclamation

"Ambassador, I don't think anybody cares at this point. If your nation cannot abide by their word, given when they joined, then why should any delegation dignify your outbursts with serious response?"

[Covatan]

The supreme ambassador of Covatan has decided its own stance on forced sterilisation. Sterilisation ordered by the state, we believe, is a highly immoral act of national policy. It should be up to regional policy and private companies to order the sterilisation of their employees or citizens. It is common knowledge that workers will work best when they are without the stresses of life on top of them, and the worker's corporate overlord is to decide whether it is best for their productiveness if the employee in question does end up having children.

What separates this from a national policy is that citizens can choose who they live or work for and its ultimately the decision of the employee whether they work for a company that forces or does not force sterilisation. Under national policy it can be much harder for a person to escape their fate and as such we of Covatan do not support mandatory sterilisation as a requirement of the state, but we do also not support the total outlawing of it.

[Quartia and Karafuto]

"Ambassador, the World Assembly in no way endorses the neglect or mistreatment of children - in fact, it's passed a resolution against those. The incompetence or malice of some is no reason to deny a basic right to others."

I don't think most people are concerned about this resolution with respect to punishing sex offenders, since you clearly stated why sterilization is ridiculous to use as punishment. What I (and, I'm sure, others) am concerned about is the provision against population control, which I'm sure will be a huge issue in some nations, and which most don't have ways to deal with other than mass sterilization, which is clearly a humane alternative to genocide. Do we want such nations to default to the worse option of genociding their own people instead of sterilizing them?

[Polis Diamonil]

Since this looks set to pass and we consider its requirements to operate in violation of civil rights, we are resigning from the World Assembly to protect the liberty and integrity of Polis Diamonil.

[Maowi]

I don't think most people are concerned about this resolution with respect to punishing sex offenders, since you clearly stated why sterilization is ridiculous to use as punishment. What I (and, I'm sure, others) am concerned about is the provision against population control, which I'm sure will be a huge issue in some nations, and which most don't have ways to deal with other than mass sterilization, which is clearly a humane alternative to genocide. Do we want such nations to default to the worse option of genociding their own people instead of sterilizing them?

"Genocide is already banned in the World Assembly by GAR #38. And I'm not sure we have quite the same definition of humane."

[Paeonija]

How can one be against forced sterilisation of serious repeat offenders of sexual crimes, pedophiles, persons with paraphilic disorders that can not be 'cured' with conventional punishments.

For these people serving time in prison is useless as they keep failing to properly rehabilitate into society and keep reoffending.. The few numbers we have available at least seem to show that recidivism of such crimes can go down to as low as 2 percent with current available treatment as opposed to as high as 85 percent for those untreated.

Chemical castration can have serious side effects, but maybe we should be looking to advance the currently available treatment rather than releasing these otherwise uncurable desires upon our innocent women and children who are also experiencing severe depressions, ptsd, and a whole slew of other disorders they develop from what has happened to them.

[Xuzaqiy]

If anything, all males should be reversibly sterilised at birth. After taking a parental test, if a couple are deemed to be suitable parents, the sterilisation may be reversed. This would cover the following:
- Less accidental pregnancies
- Lower population growth
- Reduction of pregnancies from rape
- Less struggles for disadvantaged families that are expecting children

In my eyes, this is a perfect system. Without being a responsible parent, one should not be allowed to have children. Also consider that the parental test would not be straightforward but not impossible - after all, there are citizenship tests.

[Tinhampton]

If anything, all males should be reversibly sterilised at birth.

I'm not voting for a resolution that does that. If the one at vote passes - and it will - I intend on submitting an InstaRepeal.

[WayNeacTia]

If anything, all males should be reversibly sterilised at birth. After taking a parental test, if a couple are deemed to be suitable parents, the sterilisation may be reversed. This would cover the following:
- Less accidental pregnancies
- Lower population growth
- Reduction of pregnancies from rape
- Less struggles for disadvantaged families that are expecting children

In my eyes, this is a perfect system. Without being a responsible parent, one should not be allowed to have children. Also consider that the parental test would not be straightforward but not impossible - after all, there are citizenship tests.

Legitimate points are being raised here.

[Xuzaqiy]

I don't think most people are concerned about this resolution with respect to punishing sex offenders, since you clearly stated why sterilization is ridiculous to use as punishment. What I (and, I'm sure, others) am concerned about is the provision against population control, which I'm sure will be a huge issue in some nations, and which most don't have ways to deal with other than mass sterilization, which is clearly a humane alternative to genocide. Do we want such nations to default to the worse option of genociding their own people instead of sterilizing them?

It would not be genocide to kill these people. They are criminals, so it would be capital punishment.

[Tinhampton]

I don't think most people are concerned about this resolution with respect to punishing sex offenders, since you clearly stated why sterilization is ridiculous to use as punishment. What I (and, I'm sure, others) am concerned about is the provision against population control, which I'm sure will be a huge issue in some nations, and which most don't have ways to deal with other than mass sterilization, which is clearly a humane alternative to genocide. Do we want such nations to default to the worse option of genociding their own people instead of sterilizing them?

It would not be genocide to kill these people. They are criminals, so it would be capital punishment.

GA#38 "Convention Against Genocide" + GA#450 "Don't Kill The Poor Act." It's still genocide if you're doing it to criminals.

GA#443 "Preventing the Execution of Innocents" effectively forbids capital punishment anyhow - but this isn't the time or place for that discussion, lol

[The New Sicilian State]

OOC: It looks like this one is going through, congrats to the author!

[Morover]

Prevention Of Forced Sterilisation was passed 20,764 votes to 2,989.

Congratulations, Maowi, on receiving the most votes for any World Assembly proposal ever (as far as I can tell)!