[Defeated] Repeal "Reproductive Freedoms"

[Cisairse]

The General Assembly proposal "Repeal "Reproductive Freedoms"" [Marxist Germany] failed to achieve quorum.

Good.

On the one hand, it seems sad that a proposal which spent eight months being drafted didn't even get to a vote.

On the other hand... Good.

[Marxist Germany]

The General Assembly proposal "Repeal "Reproductive Freedoms"" [Marxist Germany] failed to achieve quorum.

Good.

OOC: I chose a terrible time to submit. I will resubmit after the election is over.

[Cisairse]

The General Assembly proposal "Repeal "Reproductive Freedoms"" [Marxist Germany] failed to achieve quorum.

Good.

OOC: I chose a terrible time to submit. I will resubmit after the election is over.

Damn.

[The New California Republic]

The General Assembly proposal "Repeal "Reproductive Freedoms"" [Marxist Germany] failed to achieve quorum.

Good.

OOC: I chose a terrible time to submit. I will resubmit after the election is over.

You sure that is the cause?

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

The General Assembly proposal "Repeal "Reproductive Freedoms"" [Marxist Germany] failed to achieve quorum.

Good.

OOC: I chose a terrible time to submit. I will resubmit after the election is over.

OOC: And my headache from just watching this cartload of a shitshow just increased 9000+ fold.

[The New Sicilian State]

OOC: Aware that it's on hold, would like to comment quickly,

In support only because of the "frustrated" clause, I am in no way agreeing with MG's overall stance of the argument, or really the rest of the repeal, but I do agree that it's frightening to say the least that this act allows termination up to birth... A line should be drawn. Though I can't agree with anything else (and though I pray that someone actually comes up an adequate replacement if this ever passes), I am disappointed that such a well written proposal with eight months of work didn't even make it to quorum. Please try again when this shitstorm clears.

[Deacarsia]

I strongly support this proposal.

[Araraukar]

OOC: Please try again when this shitstorm clears.

OOC: Or, instead, please don't. Or at least wait until the Eternal NS Summer (corona social distancing) has passed.

[Versace States]

Abortion should be prohibited as it is murder of a child unborn and is against all things morally right.

[Separatist Peoples]

Abortion should be prohibited as it is murder of a child unborn and is against all things morally right.

"Not under WA law it isn't."

[Omigodtheykilledkenny]

Though I can't agree with anything else (and though I pray that someone actually comes up an adequate replacement if this ever passes)

A replacement draft has been waiting in the wings for quite some time now.

[Marxist Germany]

"The proposal has been submitted as of yet, and campaigning shall begin soon."

[Agarntrop 2]

"Strongly supported"

[Attempted Socialism]

"The proposal has been submitted as of yet, and campaigning shall begin soon."

Will you take different lessons depending on whether this goes down in flames during the approval or voting phase?

[Maowi]

"Can we just ... not ..."

[Separatist Peoples]

"Can we just ... not ..."

"The opposition feels we will grow weary of these attempts, but since our effort to successfully oppose such measures is minimal compared to the cost of guaranteeing quorum, and since it just feels good to win, I'm not sure why they think we will be bothered by this."

[Cisairse]

"The proposal has been submitted as of yet, and campaigning shall begin soon."

Disappointing

[Wrapper]

OOC, since just saying "I am Groot" over and over again won't accomplish anything:

Frustrated that the term "termination of pregnancy" forces member nations to legalize Dilation and Extraction procedures, for example, commonly known as partial-birth abortions, procedures in which a living and viable feotus is destroyed despite it being able to experience pain in late term pregnancy;

This is a disingenuous statement. D&E includes partial birth abortions but it also includes intact extraction due to miscarriage.

[Kenmoria]

(OOC: I have just noticed that the ‘frustrated’ clause mentions a ‘feotus’ rather than a ‘foetus’, though it is too late now to fix the error.)

[Marxist Germany]

"The proposal has been submitted as of yet, and campaigning shall begin soon."

Will you take different lessons depending on whether this goes down in flames during the approval or voting phase?

OOC: It failed to achieve quorum last time due to the Sec-Gen election, even IA's proposal that was campaigned for with stamps failed.

OOC, since just saying "I am Groot" over and over again won't accomplish anything:

Frustrated that the term "termination of pregnancy" forces member nations to legalize Dilation and Extraction procedures, for example, commonly known as partial-birth abortions, procedures in which a living and viable feotus is destroyed despite it being able to experience pain in late term pregnancy;

This is a disingenuous statement. D&E includes partial birth abortions but it also includes intact extraction due to miscarriage.

OOC: Including a mention of miscarriages is irrelevant to the topic being discussed at hand.

(OOC: I have just noticed that the ‘frustrated’ clause mentions a ‘feotus’ rather than a ‘foetus’, though it is too late now to fix the error.)

OOC: I can't believe that even after proofreading this several times, I still missed that.

[Attempted Socialism]

Will you take different lessons depending on whether this goes down in flames during the approval or voting phase?

OOC: It failed to achieve quorum last time due to the Sec-Gen election, even IA's proposal that was campaigned for with stamps failed.

I can't remember the excuse the last gigazillion times this kind of repeal failed to reach the floor or was voted down. Can you remind me?

OOC, since just saying "I am Groot" over and over again won't accomplish anything:

Frustrated that the term "termination of pregnancy" forces member nations to legalize Dilation and Extraction procedures, for example, commonly known as partial-birth abortions, procedures in which a living and viable feotus is destroyed despite it being able to experience pain in late term pregnancy;

This is a disingenuous statement. D&E includes partial birth abortions but it also includes intact extraction due to miscarriage.

OOC: Including a mention of miscarriages is irrelevant to the topic being discussed at hand.

You seek to make D&E illegal, surely? Despite the use (To my limited knowledge at least) solely in cases of miscarriage? So the thing you're explicitly trying to ban (Or, if generous, "open up for membernations to ban") is directly linked to miscarriages, thus it being very pertinent to the discussion.

[Imperium Anglorum]

How is this claim—

Frustrated that the term "termination of pregnancy" forces member nations to legalise Dilation and Extraction procedures, for example, commonly known as partial-birth abortions, procedures in which a living and viable feotus is destroyed despite it being able to experience pain in late term pregnancy,

Compatible with—

PERMITS Member Nations to enact policies encouraging individuals to allow live delivery of their offspring, provided such policies do not ultimately hinder the individual from terminating their pregnancy,

SUGGESTS that Member Nations encouraging live deliveries take unwanted offspring into their own care.

[Marxist Germany]

How is this claim—

Frustrated that the term "termination of pregnancy" forces member nations to legalise Dilation and Extraction procedures, for example, commonly known as partial-birth abortions, procedures in which a living and viable feotus is destroyed despite it being able to experience pain in late term pregnancy,

Compatible with—

PERMITS Member Nations to enact policies encouraging individuals to allow live delivery of their offspring, provided such policies do not ultimately hinder the individual from terminating their pregnancy,

SUGGESTS that Member Nations encouraging live deliveries take unwanted offspring into their own care.

OOC: Emphasis mine.

[The New California Republic]

(OOC: I have just noticed that the ‘frustrated’ clause mentions a ‘feotus’ rather than a ‘foetus’, though it is too late now to fix the error.)

I was against before, I am even more against now.

[Imperium Anglorum]

How is this claim—

Frustrated that the term "termination of pregnancy" forces member nations to legalise Dilation and Extraction procedures, for example, commonly known as partial-birth abortions, procedures in which a living and viable feotus is destroyed despite it being able to experience pain in late term pregnancy,

Compatible with—

PERMITS Member Nations to enact policies encouraging individuals to allow live delivery of their offspring, provided such policies do not ultimately hinder the individual from terminating their pregnancy,

SUGGESTS that Member Nations encouraging live deliveries take unwanted offspring into their own care.

OOC: Emphasis mine.

After an extraction but not destruction, is pregnancy terminated?