NATION

PASSWORD

[PASSED] Affordable Transgender Hormone Therapy

A carefully preserved record of the most notable World Assembly debates.

Advertisement

Remove ads

User avatar
Marxist Germany
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1341
Founded: Jun 07, 2018
Corporate Bordello

Postby Marxist Germany » Tue Jul 16, 2019 12:31 pm

Ambassador Klaus spits his coffee after receiving the news of passage, "Oh my, the margin of passing makes it impossible to repeal this resolution! Well, thanks to you not specifying where the treatment needs to be received, we're simply referring all patients of gender dysphoria to hospitals in France to receive treatment! Bugger your hormones! Bugger your trans rights!."
He leaves the chamber dancing.

"Don't mind Klaus, he drank a bit too much cider this morning, we're still implementing that policy however," adds his assistant.

OOC:Congrats on your first resolution Morover.
Last edited by Marxist Germany on Tue Jul 16, 2019 12:35 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Country represents RL views mostly. Not Marxist anymore.
Author of GA#461, and GA#470

Ex-delegate of The United Federations; citizen of 10000 Islands | Gaming User#0721(Discord)
RP name: Germany
The National Factbook (WIP)
Ambassador Klaus Schmidt
Political Compass
PolitiStates Result
Pro:Laissez-faire, Nationalism, Guns, Free speech, Christianity, Same-sex marriage, United Ireland.
Anti:Extreme Progressivism, Abortion, Socialism, Interventionism, Mass-migration.
A high school student aged 15 from Ireland, living in Co. Dublin. Interested in politics, gaming, and history.

User avatar
Morover
Envoy
 
Posts: 343
Founded: Oct 14, 2018
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Morover » Tue Jul 16, 2019 12:37 pm

Marxist Germany wrote:Ambassador Klaus spits his coffee after receiving the news of passage, "Oh my, the margin of passing makes it impossible to repeal this resolution! Well, thanks to you not specifying where the treatment needs to be received, we're simply referring all patients of gender dysphoria to hospitals in France to receive treatment! Bugger your hormones! Bugger your trans rights!."
He leaves the chamber dancing.

"Don't mind Klaus, he drank a bit too much cider this morning, we're still implementing that policy however," adds his assistant.

OOC:Congrats on your first resolution Morover.

"That's fine, ambassador, so long as you don't make it difficult to access and make sure the transportation costs are reasonable."

OOC: Thank you!

User avatar
Attempted Socialism
Diplomat
 
Posts: 794
Founded: Feb 21, 2011
Liberal Democratic Socialists

Postby Attempted Socialism » Tue Jul 16, 2019 1:29 pm

"We congratulate the delegation from Morover on passing their first resolution with flying colours. May we invite the non-transphobic delegations to celebrate with an absurd amount of dark lager, fizzy wine and hard liqour, while we dance on the empty chairs left behind by the dishonourable delegations for whom transphobia outweighed membership of this august body? With hormone therapy already legal and entirely free, we do believe ourselves to be substantially in compliance already. However, after we have dealt with the celebratory hangovers, we will assure that we are in full compliance with this magnificent step forward for human rights."


Represented in the World Assembly by
Ambassador and Chairperson of the Executive International Relations Committee
Marcie Elizabeth 'MacBeth' Illum
Cui Bono, quod seipsos custodes custodiunt?
Ivory Tower Critical-Realistic Sardonic Marxist Curmudgeon
Danish Political Scientist Seeks True Love Tenure
Specialities: State development; corruption; IR theory; Vodka
Experiences: Office-running; political campaigns; navigating byzantine academia politics

User avatar
Imbalistan
Envoy
 
Posts: 220
Founded: May 22, 2019
Father Knows Best State

Postby Imbalistan » Tue Jul 16, 2019 1:39 pm

Attempted Socialism wrote:"We congratulate the delegation from Morover on passing their first resolution with flying colours. May we invite the non-transphobic delegations to celebrate with an absurd amount of dark lager, fizzy wine and hard liqour, while we dance on the empty chairs left behind by the dishonourable delegations for whom transphobia outweighed membership of this august body? With hormone therapy already legal and entirely free, we do believe ourselves to be substantially in compliance already. However, after we have dealt with the celebratory hangovers, we will assure that we are in full compliance with this magnificent step forward for human rights."

"Mr. Guevara's stomach cant take that amount of alcohol, but our vice leader would be happy to come to replace him."
Best Quote:
Chan Island wrote:And I'm expecting this thread to devolve into a
racist and/or religious and/or politics shitshow within 3 pages.
I LOVE YOU THE WAY YOU ARE
Bismillah, no, we will not let you go!
#YangGang2020

User avatar
Gagium
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1218
Founded: Apr 08, 2017
New York Times Democracy

Postby Gagium » Tue Jul 16, 2019 2:54 pm

Separatist Peoples wrote:
Israeli Commonwealth wrote:OOC:
As am I. If you would read my spoiler. I left the WA due to it. NationStates is outweighed by liberal progressive socialists to the conservative capitalists or even the libertarians.

This passage has shown the vast outnumbering of us. Lucky for you and me something as barbaric as that would never pass in real life because people in the political field usually have more common sense. Even Hillary Clinton wouldn't support this. It is unethical, and countless doctors have said that children should not be introduced to hormone therapy.

Children can be deceived by the media or by family. This has happened countless times, and kids go on hormones. When this said child grows up some of them regret it. But at that point it is irreversible.

Also, personally, I have seen a lot evidence pointing to the fact that Gender Dysphoria does not even exist. One of the best points I can make is that no other animal in nature (that does not switch sex naturally, such as some frogs) has gender dysphoria. Gender Dysphoria also did not exist until the past 70 years or so. Homosexuality is a different story, I am not talking about that. May I also add that some chemicals in foods, soaps, sunscreen, skin lotion, and other items can cause hormone imbalance. That can unfortunately lead to Gender Dysphoria.

A better resolution would by increasing funds for psychiatric help for those who may have Gender Dysphoria.

If you disagree with me that is your right but it is wrong to force me to have this. I could continue but I have to go. I rest my case.


OOC: We know that is your puppet, dude.

Also, the WA is pretty overwhelmingly pro-market. Calling it run by socialists is outright hilarious.

Are you saying that they've been WA multi'ing?
E

User avatar
Fushiya
Lobbyist
 
Posts: 22
Founded: Jul 12, 2019
Ex-Nation

Postby Fushiya » Tue Jul 16, 2019 3:12 pm

Hilarious seeing the illegal repeal threads after this.

I did call it on this thread some pages back, I believe.

It was an inevitable prediction.
"How can an atheist look upon nature and deny the existence of something greater than ourselves?"-Grandfather Marty of Fushiya

-None greater than God-

User avatar
Imbalistan
Envoy
 
Posts: 220
Founded: May 22, 2019
Father Knows Best State

Postby Imbalistan » Tue Jul 16, 2019 3:16 pm

Fushiya wrote:Hilarious seeing the illegal repeal threads after this.

I did call it on this thread some pages back, I believe.

It was an inevitable prediction.

OOC: There have been 2, one riddled with more spelling mistakes then my school speech, the second using smilies.
Best Quote:
Chan Island wrote:And I'm expecting this thread to devolve into a
racist and/or religious and/or politics shitshow within 3 pages.
I LOVE YOU THE WAY YOU ARE
Bismillah, no, we will not let you go!
#YangGang2020

User avatar
Fushiya
Lobbyist
 
Posts: 22
Founded: Jul 12, 2019
Ex-Nation

Postby Fushiya » Tue Jul 16, 2019 3:22 pm

Imbalistan wrote:
Fushiya wrote:Hilarious seeing the illegal repeal threads after this.

I did call it on this thread some pages back, I believe.

It was an inevitable prediction.

OOC: There have been 2, one riddled with more spelling mistakes then my school speech, the second using smilies.


OOC: Truth is, philosophy of NS and online vs RL aside, this was a well prepared resolution and if we play by the WA's book out of Rp context, repealing this on a technicality would be near impossible unless to make way for some improved resolution that covers it, possibly.
"How can an atheist look upon nature and deny the existence of something greater than ourselves?"-Grandfather Marty of Fushiya

-None greater than God-

User avatar
Eternal Lotharia
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 10362
Founded: Dec 27, 2017
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Eternal Lotharia » Tue Jul 16, 2019 3:54 pm

Saint Arsenio wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:If you cannot afford to make common medication affordable then you are already a failed state.

I don't think we should go around calling one another "failed states."

Yeah...else most of us would be. :p
#Warren2020/Yang2020(Both for Prez)
Left-Wing Christian Pro-Life Pragmatic Populist. Oregonian.
Candidate for City Council of a large city.
A little too obsessed with food.
Farnhamia wrote:
Geneviev wrote:You scare me sometimes, Loth.

"Local Candidate Admits To Enjoying Human Flesh; Police Seeking Missing Family Members"

User avatar
Eternal Lotharia
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 10362
Founded: Dec 27, 2017
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Eternal Lotharia » Tue Jul 16, 2019 3:56 pm

The Christian God wrote:
The Lord Your God wrote:
HEY!

What in My name do you think you're doing at this un-Me-ly hour? It is way past your bedtime! Now stop antagonizing the mortals and sowing hatred among them, and get your ethereal wisp back in bed before I cast you down where the sun don't shine!

Kids these days. I swear to Me, I don't know how I stand it.


HEY!

What in my name do you think you're doing, impersonating me? I ought to smite you for that. I'll just flip a coin to see if I will. Wait...me dammit, you're good.

Everybody wants to be the big guy, but none of you have the arbitrary capriciousness for the job.

....

*Worships you both*
#Warren2020/Yang2020(Both for Prez)
Left-Wing Christian Pro-Life Pragmatic Populist. Oregonian.
Candidate for City Council of a large city.
A little too obsessed with food.
Farnhamia wrote:
Geneviev wrote:You scare me sometimes, Loth.

"Local Candidate Admits To Enjoying Human Flesh; Police Seeking Missing Family Members"

User avatar
Araraukar
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 13804
Founded: May 14, 2007
Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Araraukar » Tue Jul 16, 2019 3:58 pm

OOC: Just pointing out that GA threads are not general chat threads. TET is over in the NSG forum, not NSGA.
- Linda Äyrämäki, acting ambassador in the absence of miss Leveret
Araraukar's RP reality is Modern Tech solarpunk.

Giovenith wrote:And sorry hun, if you were looking for a forum site where nobody argued, you've come to wrong one.
Araraukar wrote:
Blueflarst wrote:a cosmopolitan hammer
United Massachusetts wrote:Can we all call ourselves "cosmopolitan hammers"?
Us cosmopolitan hammers
Can teach some manners
Often sorely lacking
Hence us attacking
Silly GA spammers

User avatar
Kyoki Chudoku
Diplomat
 
Posts: 756
Founded: Apr 28, 2017
Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Kyoki Chudoku » Tue Jul 16, 2019 4:01 pm

Tokiko let out a sigh, then offered a meagre clap at the resolution’s passage. It seemed Kyoki Chudoku’s prison complexes would suffer from even more intense expenses. Maybe they needed to execute more of the traitors, that’d save on the costs they needed to fully rebuild...

“Congrats on passin’ this, I guess. I’d better call up Naosu, she’s not gonna be happy about all the synthesis we’re gonna have to do...”

With that, the Chudokuren diplomat departed from the room,

OOC: In all seriousness though, congratulations!
This nation exists for fun and insanity, not to represent my actual views which are much more mundane and boring.
Also, I don't use NS stats. So please ignore them.
Current Status (yes, I'm bad at keeping this updated): Elsewhere

TG me for a free cookie. May contain traces of hydrogen cyanide.

User avatar
Saint Arsenio
Envoy
 
Posts: 204
Founded: Jul 19, 2018
Democratic Socialists

Postby Saint Arsenio » Tue Jul 16, 2019 4:03 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Saint Arsenio wrote:I don't think we should go around calling one another "failed states."

Yeah...else most of us would be. :p

No... not really. Maybe some, but not most :)
King Macio Glennwood, Ruler of The Kingdom of Saint Arsenio | Minister of Foreign Affairs and WA Delegate of the Empire of Great Britain

My Nation does NOT represent all of my RL views, only some.

For: Pro-Choice, Democracy

Against: Dictatorship, Communism, "Extreme" Pro-Life

User avatar
Kynor
Attaché
 
Posts: 87
Founded: Apr 29, 2019
Corporate Police State

Postby Kynor » Tue Jul 16, 2019 4:07 pm

IC: I voted against the order but since it's the will of the WA I'll comply, in the grand scheme of things nothing was gained or lost since no one wants or needs the service in my nation.
A Former American colony that became an Imperial Superpower (no we aren't fascists)

"PRO PATRIA MORI!"-His Imperial Majesty Daniel II By the Grace of God, Emperor of Kynor and Mexico

User avatar
Union of Sovereign States and Republics
Envoy
 
Posts: 315
Founded: Nov 16, 2018
Democratic Socialists

Postby Union of Sovereign States and Republics » Tue Jul 16, 2019 4:37 pm

The Soviet delegate rose out of his seat.

"It pains me to see the resolution has passed. However, I must congratulate the delegates of Morover for their first successful resolution. While we may not agree with all the points on non-binary gender identity, we do agree with all other points and we do see that this is a necessary addition."
Current IC Year: 2003
The Union of Sovereign States and Republics; USSR WE'RE NOT COMMUNISTS, DAMMIT!
In 1991, a plane carrying would-be conspirators of an armed coup crashed in the Crimean Peninsula. Without the coup, the Union of Sovereign States treaty was signed; and the USSR survived...
Current Ruling Party: Social Democratic Party of the Soviet Union (Alexander Lebedev)
News: USSR Joins the EU
[SCHEDULE: News Changed 3-5 PM EST]


User avatar
Kurha
Civilian
 
Posts: 1
Founded: May 01, 2019
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Kurha » Tue Jul 16, 2019 10:55 pm

After hours of deliberation the Kurha High Council through its delegate Ahra'j the Seventh has reached its verdict.

"This proposal will burden our people with taxes and force us further into rejecting the principles of our ancestors, may their souls guide us. We will figure a way to elude it and preserve the sovereignty of our nation. The High Council will not engage in conflict, however they do not approve any increase in tax burdens to our kin."

Ahra'j walked out of the hall leaving behind a banner with the seal of her clan and a receipt marking the calculated costs in medical procedures. A
smudged note written in purple ink was written behind it. The note was discarded by WA delegates.

User avatar
Stalliongrad and Far-Eastern Territories
Chargé d'Affaires
 
Posts: 494
Founded: Jan 21, 2012
Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Stalliongrad and Far-Eastern Territories » Tue Jul 16, 2019 10:55 pm

An auspicious occasion, our heartiest congratulations to the delegate from Morover!

Too long have transgender people not been guaranteed the meaningful right to medical transition in all WA member states. This legislation has closed a loophole previously used by slimy, wormlike governments to continue to oppress the vulnerable and divide the proletarian masses. Let all who fear the power of a united working class rest uneasy, a decisive blow has been dealt against them this day.

The Socialist Republic's laws require no amendment as a result of this legislation, as full and free access to hormone therapy is granted though the Republic's much-esteemed Ministry of Health. Any nations seeking a State-driven solution to amending legislation, constructing and organising relevant infrastructure, and/or developing any necessary training schemes, please do not hesitate to contact my office in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, where such arrangements can be discussed.

Solidarity with all workers!


Valentina Ironfoot, Ambassador to the WA
Labour is Freedom, Service is Enslavement.
From the Desk of Ambassador Valentina Ironfoot,
Stalliongrad Office of Foreign Affairs,
Ministry of the Exterior,
Parlaiment House,
12 Revolution Blvd,
Stalliongrad ST19-3BQ,
The Socialist Republic of Stalliongrad and Far-Eastern Territories

New Zepuha wrote:We have voted AGAINST this laudable act.
Khadgar wrote:
Randy F Marsh wrote:
most of the communist parties that are out there are incompatible with communism.


Well "Jack-booted Authoritarian Dick Party" is a tough sell.
⚧I'm a woman.⚧

User avatar
Jocospor
Diplomat
 
Posts: 643
Founded: Nov 24, 2015
Iron Fist Consumerists

Postby Jocospor » Wed Jul 17, 2019 1:19 am

Wow, this thread got heated!

Some resigned congratulations for Morover, whose World Assembly posturing is certainly getting it somewhere. We can perhaps wonder at the sincerity of this proposal. After all, Morover constantly sprouts untruths about the CCD to better its standing amongst those it...respects? Craves to be?

Whatever Morover's attraction to the World Assembly, another badge-hunting demagogue is in the making for all to enjoy.
HAIL THE CONFEDERATION!
CONFEDERATION OF CORRUPT DICTATORS | OFFICE OF THE VICEROY | DELEGATE'S OFFICE
JOCOSPOR | FOREIGN AFFAIRS OFFICE


"Destroy democracy. End degeneracy. Love your Emperor. Thou shalt know no fear."
- Farland Macmillan, Grand High Direktor of the Empire, addressing the 3rd Imperial Cabinet

(All posts IC unless marked otherwise)

User avatar
Lamoni
Game Moderator
 
Posts: 6841
Founded: Antiquity
Democratic Socialists

Postby Lamoni » Wed Jul 17, 2019 3:08 am

Jocospor wrote:Wow, this thread got heated!

Some resigned congratulations for Morover, whose World Assembly posturing is certainly getting it somewhere. We can perhaps wonder at the sincerity of this proposal. After all, Morover constantly sprouts untruths about the CCD to better its standing amongst those it...respects? Craves to be?

Whatever Morover's attraction to the World Assembly, another badge-hunting demagogue is in the making for all to enjoy.


*** Warning for Flamebaiting ***

Keep your regional propaganda out of the thread, Jocospor. It serves no purpose but to anger, and is thus flamebait.
National Anthem
Resides in Greater Dienstad. Mayor of Equilism.
I'm a Senior N&I RP Mentor. Questions? TG me!
Licana on the M-21A2 MBT: "Well, it is one of the most badass tanks on NS."


Vortiaganica: Lamoni I understand fully, of course. The two (Lamoni & Lyras) are more inseparable than the Clinton family and politics.


Triplebaconation: Lamoni commands a quiet respect that carries its own authority. He is the Mandela of NS.

Part of the Meow family in Gameplay, and a GORRAM GAME MOD!

User avatar
Honkworld
Secretary
 
Posts: 37
Founded: Jul 06, 2019
Ex-Nation

Postby Honkworld » Sat Jul 20, 2019 1:54 pm

Fushiya wrote:Hilarious seeing the illegal repeal threads after this.

They're only "ilegall" because the WA has a secret agenda.

User avatar
Araraukar
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 13804
Founded: May 14, 2007
Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Araraukar » Sat Jul 20, 2019 1:59 pm

Honkworld wrote:
Fushiya wrote:Hilarious seeing the illegal repeal threads after this.

They're only "ilegall" because the WA has a secret agenda.

OOC: The "secret agenda" is known as Proposal Rules. And can be found in a sticky near the top of this forum.
- Linda Äyrämäki, acting ambassador in the absence of miss Leveret
Araraukar's RP reality is Modern Tech solarpunk.

Giovenith wrote:And sorry hun, if you were looking for a forum site where nobody argued, you've come to wrong one.
Araraukar wrote:
Blueflarst wrote:a cosmopolitan hammer
United Massachusetts wrote:Can we all call ourselves "cosmopolitan hammers"?
Us cosmopolitan hammers
Can teach some manners
Often sorely lacking
Hence us attacking
Silly GA spammers

User avatar
Separatist Peoples
GA Secretariat
 
Posts: 14436
Founded: Feb 17, 2011
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Separatist Peoples » Mon Jul 22, 2019 6:37 am

Honkworld wrote:
Fushiya wrote:Hilarious seeing the illegal repeal threads after this.

They're only "ilegall" because the WA has a secret agenda.

OOC: What Ara said. The rules are applied unflinchingly and without regards to politics.

You want to repeal this law? Write a legal repeal.

His Worshipfulness Lord GA Secretariat,
Authority on All Existence,
Globalist Dog,
Dark Psychic Vampire, and
Chief Populist Elitist!


User avatar
The Sovereign Realist State
Civilian
 
Posts: 1
Founded: Jul 27, 2019
Moralistic Democracy

Postby The Sovereign Realist State » Sat Jul 27, 2019 1:19 pm

The united american-isreali empire wrote:I am very offended at this passage. Why must we recognize. This gender confusion is nonsense. I do not support this act one bit. It isnt very fair to nations that are conservative and old fashioned.


The Land of the Ephyral wrote:"Following the passing of this resolution, the Senate and Freeborn Landholders of Ephyra will be initiating a withdrawal from the World Assembly."


Israeli Commonwealth wrote:If you disagree with me that is your right but it is wrong to force me to have this. I could continue but I have to go. I rest my case.


Fortunately, there are regions that exist outside the control of the WA, with no Delegate and no memberships. That is where you find true national freedom.

For all you lefties celebrating, just imagine what will happen the day your little friends decide to force you to implement something you disagree with.

The WA overstepped its mandate years ago and is now just a platform for SJW fetishes.

Thank your proving it.
Last edited by The Sovereign Realist State on Sat Jul 27, 2019 1:23 pm, edited 2 times in total.


Previous

Advertisement

Remove ads

Return to WA Archives

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users

Advertisement

Remove ads