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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:01 am
by Valenceria
As World Assembly ambassador for Valenceria, I urge all nations to band together and vote for this resolution. The rights and lives of the peoples' on this planet are worth your efforts. This will be a positive change for the future of civil rights. Affordable hormone therapy for all dysphoric individuals is necessary! Thank you.

OOC: First post on the WA forums. Yay. Really happy about how the WA nations are voting on this issue. As a transwoman, I'm surprised and delighted to see that three quarters of all voting members are for this issue, at least in a fictional roleplay sense.

PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:14 am
by The Christian God
Novo Abrahamia wrote:
Grenartia wrote:
Not if your nation is a WA member. Also, if anyone's rebelling against God, its your nation, Ambassador. Killing God's children for trying to be who God intended them to be sounds very anti-Christlike.


Trying to be who God intended them to be?? If God intended some one to be female he would have created the individual as a female!! Find your identity in Christ! Not who the devil wants you to be. The world is being deceived but Christ will be victorious!!


"AND JUST HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT I DID NOT INTEND THEY BE TRANSGENDER? For somebody who claims to follow My word, you're putting a lot of them in My mouth. I commanded you to love thy neighbor. I did not command you to love thy neighbor only if they agree with you. Go forth and be a good Christian in My name, not your own."

PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:16 am
by The Christian God
MineLegotia and Equestria wrote:
Araraukar wrote:
OOC: 1. If a god created me, she clearly intended me to be male. Mindless biology made an error, that hormone therapy helps to fix somewhat at least. 2. I'm quite sure that if Jesus really was really the son of god and preached the things the Bible says he said, he'd be very disappointed with you.

God is Almighty, He has command all, so if He wished you to be male, biology would have followed and you would have been a male. Second of all, Jesus might be disappointed in him for being super aggressive, but He'll be more sad in you for not listening to the truth. I doubt anything I could say can convince you, but, reconsider your reasons and poke some holes in them. You might find that your reasons aren't as solid as you think.


"And if I had wished they be transgender, then it is My will that they be true to thine own selves. Do not presume to know the Truth when you try to speak for your Lord. After all, I command ALL."

PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 9:00 am
by Morover
OOC:
Affordable Transgender Hormone Therapy was passed 10,855 votes to 3,309.


Thanks to everyone who voted "for!" It really means a lot! Let the repeals start flowing, for I'm sure there will be many!

PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 9:05 am
by Maowi
OOC: Congratulations!
Given the margin, I doubt any repeals would be successful.

PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 9:08 am
by Morover
Maowi wrote:OOC: Congratulations!
Given the margin, I doubt any repeals would be successful.

OOC: I certainly hope not. I'll only support a repeal if there's a replacement draft up that I feel would do a good job. I'm sure there will be several people who try to repeal this, as there is with any somewhat controversial subject.

PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 9:09 am
by Mettaton-EX
Sierra Lyricalia wrote:"Victory is when the miserable little orcs stop pretending to have actual arguments and just start name dropping their gods and prophets and other sundry members of their primitive pantheons - because nobody real is going to accept their self-appointed role as the Dick Police. Once again, reason seizes and throttles the infantile fear of anything new or different. It's wonderful to see."

orcs are good and important and do not deserve to be compared to transphobes, how dare you

PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 9:14 am
by Maowi
Morover wrote:OOC: I certainly hope not. I'll only support a repeal if there's a replacement draft up that I feel would do a good job. I'm sure there will be several people who try to repeal this, as there is with any somewhat controversial subject.


OOC: The vast majority will probably be barely, if at all, legal and something like 'transgender bad so don't make them happy and also natsov therefore repeal'

PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 9:19 am
by Savoir
Morover wrote:
Affordable Transgender Hormone Therapy was passed 10,855 votes to 3,309.


Thanks to everyone who voted "for!"

"Congratulations, Morover! A victory for the rights of transgender individuals!"

PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 9:19 am
by Aclion
Sierra Lyricalia wrote:"Victory is when the miserable little orcs stop pretending to have actual arguments and just start name dropping their gods and prophets and other sundry members of their primitive pantheons - because nobody real is going to accept their self-appointed role as the Dick Police. Once again, reason seizes and throttles the infantile fear of anything new or different. It's wonderful to see."

The funny thing to me is that they overlook a legitimate objection. That the last clause only forbids member states from forcing conversion, and doesn't require member states to extend that prohibition to non state actors under their jurisdiction.

PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 9:24 am
by Imbalistan
"Congratulations on your win. Viva La Resolution!"

PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 9:25 am
by Minoa
Morover wrote:Thanks to everyone who voted "for!" It really means a lot! Let the repeals start flowing, for I'm sure there will be many!

I lost count of how many times World Assembly members tried to repeal On Abortion, which continues to have the most intense General Assembly debates ever since the start of the post-Jolt era.

PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 9:27 am
by Saciu
Yay! This is great news for trans people across many, many nations.

PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 9:30 am
by The Land of the Ephyral
"Following the passing of this resolution, the Senate and Freeborn Landholders of Ephyra will be initiating a withdrawal from the World Assembly."

Im offended

PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 9:32 am
by The united American-Isreali empire
I am very offended at this passage. Why must we recognize. This gender confusion is nonsense. I do not support this act one bit. It isnt very fair to nations that are conservative and old fashioned.

PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 9:35 am
by Separatist Peoples
The united american-isreali empire wrote:I am very offended at this passage. Why must we recognize. This gender confusion is nonsense. I do not support this act one bit. It isnt very fair to nations that are conservative and old fashioned.

"How conservative nations treat trans people under their care is far less fair, ambassador. The balance of equities favors them."

The Land of the Ephyral wrote:"Following the passing of this resolution, the Senate and Freeborn Landholders of Ephyra will be initiating a withdrawal from the World Assembly."

"We will not miss you."

PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 9:38 am
by Saciu
The united american-isreali empire wrote:I am very offended at this passage. Why must we recognize. This gender confusion is nonsense. I do not support this act one bit. It isnt very fair to nations that are conservative and old fashioned.

Those nations are unfair to their citizens afflicted with gender dysphoria.

PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 9:40 am
by The Land of the Ephyral
Separatist Peoples wrote:"We will not miss you."


"I expect not. Nor we, you. However, when it comes to ensuring the safe and appropriate treatment of individuals afflicted with psychological conditions, we will not permit a broad legislative body to prolong their danger of suicide and self-harm to indulge a self-righteous and narrow-minded quest for undefined "rights" and the appreciation of a so-called identity which is killing far too many it affects."

PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 9:41 am
by Separatist Peoples
The Land of the Ephyral wrote:
Separatist Peoples wrote:"We will not miss you."


"I expect not. Nor we, you. However, when it comes to ensuring the safe and appropriate treatment of individuals afflicted with psychological conditions, we will not permit a broad legislative body to prolong their danger of suicide and self-harm to indulge a self-righteous and narrow-minded quest for undefined "rights" and the appreciation of a so-called identity which is killing far too many it affects."

"Are you still here, ambassador? I thought you threw a tantrum and left."

PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 9:44 am
by The Land of the Ephyral
Separatist Peoples wrote:"Are you still here, ambassador? I thought you threw a tantrum and left."


"How very immature. I hope that isn't too representative of your nation. We have now resigned from the World Assembly. I bid you good day."

PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 9:45 am
by Peatiktist
Welp.

If this was a real country under a real World organization, we would now be broke.
This is why I'm glad I don't have to actually follow WA proposals.

PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 9:47 am
by Saint Arsenio
If any Nation sees a problem with this Resolution, why not write a Repeal?

PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 9:49 am
by Separatist Peoples
The Land of the Ephyral wrote:
Separatist Peoples wrote:"Are you still here, ambassador? I thought you threw a tantrum and left."


"How very immature. I hope that isn't too representative of your nation. We have now resigned from the World Assembly. I bid you good day."


"Well enough. The citizens of the C.D.S.P. have little toleration for tantrums, mistreatment of the vulnerable, and bland foods. Keep your chin up, former ambassador. Two out of three ain't bad."

Peatiktist wrote:Welp.

If this was a real country under a real World organization, we would now be broke.
This is why I'm glad I don't have to actually follow WA proposals.

OOC: Compliance is required. Failure to comply will get you fined an amount calculated for coerce compliance. Failure to pay results in WA-wide sanction.

PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 9:50 am
by Austria-Bohemia-Hungary
Peatiktist wrote:Welp.

If this was a real country under a real World organization, we would now be broke.
This is why I'm glad I don't have to actually follow WA proposals.

If you cannot afford to make common medication affordable then you are already a failed state.

PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 9:52 am
by Saint Arsenio
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Peatiktist wrote:Welp.

If this was a real country under a real World organization, we would now be broke.
This is why I'm glad I don't have to actually follow WA proposals.

If you cannot afford to make common medication affordable then you are already a failed state.

I don't think we should go around calling one another "failed states."