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Araraukar wrote:

West Heisen wrote:I was saying that 'non binary' is not a legitimate thing.

OOC: You'll need to take that up with the RL state of Finland, because I have a gender diagnosis that disagrees with you.

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OOC: If the Bible quotes are not of actual transgender individuals (even the one originally quoted was of cross-dressing, not actually transgender), they should probably go on the General Forum, not here.

OOC: It's contradictory to hate or disrespect somebody else while saying you follow Christ teachings. That's pretty much the whole point.

West Heisen wrote:I was saying that 'non binary' is not a legitimate thing.

OOC: Ding dong, Science says you're wrong.

San Felix wrote:OOC: It's contradictory to hate or disrespect somebody else while saying you follow Christ teachings. That's pretty much the whole point.

OOC: I know, but it devolved into a debate about Biblical law. That does not belong on this topic. There's a whole Christian discussion thread in General forum for that kind of thing.

Araraukar wrote:

San Felix wrote:OOC: It's contradictory to hate or disrespect somebody else while saying you follow Christ teachings. That's pretty much the whole point.

OOC: I know, but it devolved into a debate about Biblical law. That does not belong on this topic. There's a whole Christian discussion thread in General forum for that kind of thing.

OOC; Looking at the posts, I agree and I apologize.

This resolution is outrageous.

We will take whatever sanctions may be imposed before we allow hormone therapy in Dontriptia.

The fact is it makes no difference whatsoever what humans are like in aggregate.

Dontriptia wrote:This resolution is outrageous.

We will take whatever sanctions may be imposed before we allow hormone therapy in Dontriptia.

OOC:
Oh, there aren't any sanctions, your government's entire leadership is at once struck and killed by lightning, and replaced with mysterious WA gnomes that will be much more amicable to complying with International Law

Araraukar wrote:

West Heisen wrote:I was saying that 'non binary' is not a legitimate thing.

OOC: You'll need to take that up with the RL state of Finland, because I have a gender diagnosis that disagrees with you.

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OOC: If the Bible quotes are not of actual transgender individuals (even the one originally quoted was of cross-dressing, not actually transgender), they should probably go on the General Forum, not here.

I really don't care what Finland says. As someone else has pointed out, Finland could very well be wrong. After all, according to Nazi Germany, Jews were not human. Would you use that as an argument?

San Felix wrote:

West Heisen wrote:I was saying that 'non binary' is not a legitimate thing.

OOC: Ding dong, Science says you're wrong.

Actually, there are 2 scientific genders, and I have already addressed intersex. So please, tell me, how does science say I'm wrong?

Separatist Peoples wrote:"And here I left my WH-Mk.19 Shrike rig in the locker. I really need to start bringing my heavy weaponry to these debates. Funny thing, the C.D.S.P. Marines put in an order for a couple thousand of them as part of the armaments proposed during the prospective powered exoskeleton development, but the initially positive results stalled out on exoskeletons, so they were left with an actual ton of nonstandard weaponry and nobody willing to hump the beast around."

"Well, now, that sounds like the basis for a mutually beneficial technical exchange if ever there was one! Manufacturing under license, perhaps... Something for the military attachés to drool and leer over. I'll call ya when this shitshow is done with."

"And boy, howdy, is 'shitshow' the right word. I see as usual the Christianity brigade is out doing its utter damnedest to convince the world the central tenet of their alleged beliefs - 'God is Love' - is a despicable lie only degenerated preverts could possibly believe."

Paleoconservative Citizens wrote:

San Felix wrote:
"Wasn't the Old Testament abolished by Jesus Christ, ambassador?

Romans 10:4 - 'Christ is the culmination of the law so that there may be righteousness for everyone who believes.'

Galatians 5:18 - 'But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.'

Galatians 3:11 - 'Clearly no one who relies on the law is justified before God, because “the righteous will live by faith.”'

So, which one is it? Do you follow the Old Testament or the teachings of Christ? Because clearly, the Bible says you can't follow both."

That is false. As Jesus said,
"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.
Matthew 5:17 ESV

Paul is saying that we are not under the law as means of salvation.

"Nobody cares about your religion, ambassador."

OOC: Nobody cares about your religion, dude.

Heavens Host wrote:Heaven officially declared war on the world assembly. The reason for this declaration is as follows: Mandating the normalization and acceptance of degenerate transsexuals, Seeking to put men in women’s prisons, and worst of all defiling the image of God with unnatural hormones.

All who stand for decency unite against this anti moral menace!

Hail Christ!!!

HEY!

What in My name do you think you're doing at this un-Me-ly hour? It is way past your bedtime! Now stop antagonizing the mortals and sowing hatred among them, and get your ethereal wisp back in bed before I cast you down where the sun don't shine!

Kids these days. I swear to Me, I don't know how I stand it.

The Lord Your God wrote:

Heavens Host wrote:Heaven officially declared war on the world assembly. The reason for this declaration is as follows: Mandating the normalization and acceptance of degenerate transsexuals, Seeking to put men in women’s prisons, and worst of all defiling the image of God with unnatural hormones.

All who stand for decency unite against this anti moral menace!

Hail Christ!!!

HEY!

What in My name do you think you're doing at this un-Me-ly hour? It is way past your bedtime! Now stop antagonizing the mortals and sowing hatred among them, and get your ethereal wisp back in bed before I cast you down where the sun don't shine!

Kids these days. I swear to Me, I don't know how I stand it.

HEY!

What in my name do you think you're doing, impersonating me? I ought to smite you for that. I'll just flip a coin to see if I will. Wait...me dammit, you're good.

Everybody wants to be the big guy, but none of you have the arbitrary capriciousness for the job.

The Christian God wrote:

The Lord Your God wrote:
HEY!

What in My name do you think you're doing at this un-Me-ly hour? It is way past your bedtime! Now stop antagonizing the mortals and sowing hatred among them, and get your ethereal wisp back in bed before I cast you down where the sun don't shine!

Kids these days. I swear to Me, I don't know how I stand it.

HEY!

What in my name do you think you're doing, impersonating me? I ought to smite you for that. I'll just flip a coin to see if I will. Wait...me dammit, you're good.

Everybody wants to be the big guy, but none of you have the arbitrary capriciousness for the job.

WHAT IN THE BLOODY BLAZES IS GOING ON HERE WHO IS THE REAL GOD!?

Borovan entered the region as he wrote:

The Christian God wrote:
HEY!

What in my name do you think you're doing, impersonating me? I ought to smite you for that. I'll just flip a coin to see if I will. Wait...me dammit, you're good.

Everybody wants to be the big guy, but none of you have the arbitrary capriciousness for the job.

WHAT IN THE BLOODY BLAZES IS GOING ON HERE WHO IS THE REAL GOD!?

"Ain't that just the $64,000 question?"

Borovan entered the region as he wrote:

The Christian God wrote:
HEY!

What in my name do you think you're doing, impersonating me? I ought to smite you for that. I'll just flip a coin to see if I will. Wait...me dammit, you're good.

Everybody wants to be the big guy, but none of you have the arbitrary capriciousness for the job.

WHAT IN THE BLOODY BLAZES IS GOING ON HERE WHO IS THE REAL GOD!?

the only true god is JOSIP VISSARIONOVICH DZUGHASHVILI, BETTER KNOWN BY HIS PEN NAME, JOSEPH V. STALIN

Namaste,

Upon further consideration, His Most Sacred Majesty had decided that the Crown will provide FREE HRT to any subject who makes such a request.

Further, the Crown will provide such persons mandatory public housing, completely free of charge.

Requires all member-states to legalize hormone therapy for all consenting individuals,

Requires all member-states to have an affordable, easy-to-access way for its transgender population to access hormone therapy,

Forbids any member-state from denying a transgender person access to hormone therapy as a punishment or as part of a punishment for a crime,

Forbids any member-state from forcing an individual to undergo hormone therapy.

All of these are fine, except the second. If hormone therapy must be required to be provided at "affordable" prices, then the same should be true for all other diseases which have available cures. This is overreach, therefore Barbariax must unfortunately vote Against.

So if a nation disagrees with this 'transgender' stuff, we have no say?

What else will these people force us to conform to? "Murder all infants because babies are gross", "All *insert race here* must be enslaved or murdered", or "No military for any nation, because peace". Nationstates has become way to lopsided recently, its kind of sad

OOC:
Maybe, just maybe, human fucking rights aren't and shouldn't be up for fucking debate. It's not some radical leftist coup of your NS nations via the WA, it's literally a matter of human rights, and one that aligns with the scientific consensus on the matter, regardless of what y'all over in the opposition's grade-school biology class taught you.

Barbariax wrote:All of these are fine, except the second. If hormone therapy must be required to be provided at "affordable" prices, then the same should be true for all other diseases which have available cures. This is overreach, therefore Barbariax must unfortunately vote Against.

OOC: You already are required to provide affordable healthcare to all citizens. And if you're trying to claim that necessary medications are not part of it, you'll have to redefine English language quite a bit.

There is absolutely NO WAY I’m going to follow this stupid legislation. LGBTQ were, are and will be cured of their mental illness in
Laka Strolistandiler.

Laka Strolistandiler wrote:There is absolutely NO WAY I’m going to follow this stupid legislation. LGBTQ were, are and will be cured of their mental illness in
Laka Strolistandiler.

OOC: Then you are in violation of at least three pre-existing resolutions.

Marxist Germany wrote:

Paleoconservative Citizens wrote:After much thought, and speaking with my advisors, the nation of Paleoconservative Citizens has decided that it no longer wants to be World Assembly member. Paleoconservative Citizens is a conservative nation built upon the principle teachings of Christianity, and the people of USPC will not stand for anything that goes against the founding principles of this nation.

"You won't be missed, ambassador."

two birds, one scone, as they say

It is the stance of the Subversive State that Transgenderism is degenerate and leads to the downfall of western civilizations. I urge any and all who believe this to be true to vote this resolution down. My colleagues here in the Assembly are doing nothing more than virtue signalling to make themselves feel better about their failed leftist states!