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[PASSED] Condemn Durkadurkiranistan II

Postby Marilyn Manson Freaks » Sat Jun 01, 2019 9:19 pm

The Security Council,

Identifying the nation of Durkadurkiranistan II as a vile and ancient menace to the world, one that has upset the balance of power within many Feeder and Sinker regions.

Reminiscing about Durkadurkiranistan II's early days when they were known as John Ashcroft Land, a starchy but pleasant and skilled defender in the Alliance Defense Network (ADN) before they started down a dark and winding path of interregional infamy.

Lamenting the many evil influences that might have led Durkadurkiranistan II astray. For example, maybe it was simply their exposure to Pierconium's North Pacific Directorate (NPD) coup of The North Pacific as Pixiedance as a young nation, perhaps it was their involvement in the West Pacific Triumvirate (WPT) coup executed by Wickedly evil people and their inner-circle, or possibly even their participation as a Lord Governor (Minister) in The Crimson Order (TCO), the illegal government of The North Pacific, created by Westwind as Lewis and Clark.

Recalling Durkadurkiranistan II's first major step towards infamy when they illegally seized the delegacy of Lazarus in 2009 under the alias of Viceroy Victorious, where they ousted the then inactive outgoing Delegate and Queen Harmoneia for their own personal gain. This illegal seizure of the delegacy lead to many days of regional strife as "High Tsar" Viceroy Victorious mocked the lawfully elected government and forced them to make concessions in order to regain the delegacy for their newly-elected King, Killer Kitty.

Dismayed that Durkadurkiranistan II's occupation of Lazarus wasn't enough for them, as they went on to invade The North Pacific twice, in 2009 and 2010. Once as Durkadurkiranistan, its legally elected Delegate and "Grand Ayatollah", and once during a transition for the position of Delegate as Durkadurkiranistan II.

Appalled that the lawful Delegate of Osiris, The Dourian Embassy, willfully and proudly assimilated itself into Nevadar and Durkadurkiranistan II's empire in 2013, allowing Durkadurkiranistan II to overthrow the legitimate government of Osiris, the Kemetic Republic (KRO), and claim Osiris for the notorious region of Gatesville while making a mockery of the KRO by styling themselves as the "Governor Imperator" of the Imperium of Osiris and by purging innocent nations. This invasion eventually led to the destruction of the KRO.

Also highlighting Milograd's 2013 coup of The South Pacific, in which the government of Milograd happily allowed Durkadurkiranistan II and a few other nations access to their national infrastructure. Durkadurkiranistan II metaphorically jumped at this opportunity and purged thousands of nations from The South Pacific and assisted Milograd and company in the foundation of the South Pacific Socialist Republic (SPSR), a destructive regime founded only to belittle and confuse The South Pacific's more established natives.

Recognizing that Durkadurkiranistan II is nothing but a monstrous tyrant and deserves nothing but the World Assembly's disapproval.

Hereby condemns Durkadurkiranistan II.

Co-authored with Kuriko.


As you can see, Durk already has a condemnation. However, that one was only relevant for the time and region. I believe this encompasses all of his sweet wrongdoings. :P

(I plan on repealing the previous condemnation if this one passes.)

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Postby Cormactopia Prime » Sat Jun 01, 2019 9:21 pm

You have a broken region tag in the third clause. Otherwise, looks pretty good so far -- I'd support.

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Postby Marilyn Manson Freaks » Sat Jun 01, 2019 9:24 pm

Cormactopia Prime wrote:You have a broken region tag in the third clause. Otherwise, looks pretty good so far -- I'd support.


Fixed! Thanks. :)
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Sat Jun 01, 2019 10:49 pm

Illegal for R3 as it is written - you can only Condemn Durk, not Durk and their affiliates. I’ll have a proper look through later (still on my first coffee of the day), but that stood out.
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Postby RiderSyl » Sun Jun 02, 2019 1:14 am

Condemn Durk, and then once we've Condemned him, Commend him. and Liberate him.
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Postby Kuriko » Sun Jun 02, 2019 7:24 am

Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:Illegal for R3 as it is written - you can only Condemn Durk, not Durk and their affiliates. I’ll have a proper look through later (still on my first coffee of the day), but that stood out.

He added that while I was trying to stop a raid at major or else I would have told him the same >·<
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Postby Marilyn Manson Freaks » Sun Jun 02, 2019 8:13 am

Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:Illegal for R3 as it is written - you can only Condemn Durk, not Durk and their affiliates. I’ll have a proper look through later (still on my first coffee of the day), but that stood out.


Oops! Did not realize that when I added that in. Fixed.

RiderSyl wrote:Condemn Durk, and then once we've Condemned him, Commend him. and Liberate him.


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Postby Lord Dominator » Sun Jun 02, 2019 8:55 am

Personally, your use of 'Puzzled' as a clause seems out of character for a Condemnation, since it tends to imply confusion or non-responsibility and not guilt.

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Postby Kuriko » Sun Jun 02, 2019 9:25 am

Lord Dominator wrote:Personally, your use of 'Puzzled' as a clause seems out of character for a Condemnation, since it tends to imply confusion or non-responsibility and not guilt.

Thank you! That clause has been bugging me since he wrote it and I told him that, I'm glad someone else thinks it's odd too lol
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Postby Eumaeus » Sun Jun 02, 2019 10:42 am

Marilyn Manson Freaks wrote:The Security Council,

Identifying the nation of Durkadurkiranistan II as a vile and ancient menace to the world, one that has upset the balance of power within many Feeder and Sinker regions.

Reminiscing about Durkadurkiranistan II's early days when they were known as John Ashcroft Land, a starch but pleasant and skilled defender in the Alliance Defense Network (ADN) before they started down a dark and winding path of interregional infamy.

I'm... not sure that is the correct usage of the word starch. It is a noun, which Merriam-Webster defines as "a stiff formal manner; formality", and though M-W does not include it there is verb form that roughly means "to make stiff or rigidly formal", however I have been unable to find a source that includes it as an adjective. Personally, I think it sounds good as an adjective, but alas. Alternate word choices I've found include "staid" (sedate, respectable, and unadventurous), "stodgy" (dull and uninspired), "stuffy" (lacking in vitality or interest) and "prim" (stiffly formal and respectable).
Puzzled at what led Durkadurkiranistan II astray. Perhaps it was simply their exposure to Pierconium's North Pacific Directorate (NPD) coup of The North Pacific as Pixiedance as a young nation, maybe it was their involvement in the West Pacific Dominion (WPD) coup executed by Wickedly evil people and their inner-circle, or possibly even their participation as a Lord Governor (Minister) in The Crimson Order (TCO), the illegal government of The North Pacific, created by Westwind as Lewis and Clark.

Recalling Durkadurkiranistan II's first major step towards infamy when they illegally seized the delegacy of Lazarus in 2009 under the alias of Viceroy Victorious, where they ousted the then inactive outgoing Delegate and Queen Harmoneia for their own personal gain. This illegal seizure of the delegacy lead to many days of regional strife as "High Tsar" Viceroy Victorious mocked the lawfully elected government and forced them to make concessions in order to regain the delegacy for their newly-elected King, Killer Kitty.

Dismayed that Durkadurkiranistan II's occupation of Lazarus was not enough for them, as they went on to invade The North Pacific twice, in 2009 and 2010. Once as Durkadurkiranistan, its legally elected Delegate and "Grand Ayatollah", and once during a transition for the position of Delegate as Durkadurkiranistan II.

I would change that contraction.
Appalled that the lawful Delegate of Osiris, The Dourian Embassy, willfully and proudly assimilated itself into Nevadar and Durkadurkiranistan II's empire in 2013, allowing Durkadurkiranistan II to overthrow the legitimate government of Osiris, the Kemetic Republic (KRO), and claim Osiris for the notorious region of Gatesville while making a mockery of the KRO by styling themselves as the "Governor Imperator" of the Imperium of Osiris and by purging innocent nations. This invasion eventually led to the destruction of the KRO.

Also highlighting Milograd's 2013 coup of The South Pacific, in which the government of Milograd happily allowed Durkadurkiranistan II and a few other nations access to their national infrastructure. Durkadurkiranistan II metaphorically jumped at this opportunity and purged thousands of nations from The South Pacific and assisted Milograd and co. in the foundation of the South Pacific Socialist Republic (SPSR), a destructive regime founded only to belittle and confuse The South Pacific's more established natives.

Recognizing that Durkadurkiranistan II is nothing but a monstrous tyrant and deserves nothing but the World Assembly's disapproval.

Hereby condemns Durkadurkiranistan II.

Co-authored with Kuriko.

Personally, I would write out "and company", but either way is correct. Overall it is very well written, and there aren't any glaring inaccuracies, omissions, or libel that are jumping out at me.
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Sun Jun 02, 2019 12:08 pm

I was going to make some more comments concerning this proposal. This might explain why it might not be wise for me to do so at the moment.

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Thanks for all the feedback! Will edit soon.
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Postby The Church of Satan » Tue Jun 04, 2019 10:16 pm

I'm not sure how I feel about the part that speculates on what led Durk to "go down a dark path" but I'd say go for it. Submit it even. I've seen shorter resolutions in the SC pass so this is acceptable. I assume this is the finalized version given the time that's passed without further constructive criticism so submit it maybe?
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The Church of Satan wrote:I'm not sure how I feel about the part that speculates on what led Durk to "go down a dark path" but I'd say go for it. Submit it even. I've seen shorter resolutions in the SC pass so this is acceptable. I assume this is the finalized version given the time that's passed without further constructive criticism so submit it maybe?

It's passed like 4 days without specific criticsm, though my complaints about the use of 'puzzled' remain.

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The Church of Satan wrote:I'm not sure how I feel about the part that speculates on what led Durk to "go down a dark path" but I'd say go for it. Submit it even. I've seen shorter resolutions in the SC pass so this is acceptable. I assume this is the finalized version given the time that's passed without further constructive criticism so submit it maybe?

It's passed like 4 days without specific criticsm, though my complaints about the use of 'puzzled' remain.


Do you have any suggestions for a replacement for Puzzled?
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Marilyn Manson Freaks wrote:
Lord Dominator wrote:It's passed like 4 days without specific criticsm, though my complaints about the use of 'puzzled' remain.


Do you have any suggestions for a replacement for Puzzled?


"Lamenting the many evil influences that might have led..."

then replace the "Perhaps..." with a "for example" or "among these" type structure.
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I have to agree with SL there, since that looks like the smallest change to your existing structure that I can think of.

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Does this look good? I'll wait for BBD to post here before I submit.
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Wed Jun 05, 2019 12:08 pm

West Pacific Dominion was Biyah, Neenee and Zeta One, not Wickedly Evil People. WEP was West Pacific Triumvirate a couple of years later.

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Thanks to Xoriet for digging out this old post of mine.

I was on the anti-WPD side and anti-WPT sides in both situations, but to be honest I can’t remember Durk’s involvement with either WPD or WPT. If he was involved he was a minor support player, not one of the movers and shakers.

Apart from that MMF your proposal reads well, but I would try and clarify his involvement with the West Pacific coups.
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Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:West Pacific Dominion was Biyah, Neenee and Zeta One, not Wickedly Evil People. WEP was West Pacific Triumvirate a couple of years later.

viewtopic.php?p=23741485#p23741485

Thanks to Xoriet for digging out this old post of mine.

I was on the anti-WPD side and anti-WPT sides in both situations, but to be honest I can’t remember Durk’s involvement with either WPD or WPT. If he was involved he was a minor support player, not one of the movers and shakers.

Apart from that MMF your proposal reads well, but I would try and clarify his involvement with the West Pacific coups.



It was the WPT. My bad, I accidentally confused the two.

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Postby Lord Dominator » Wed Jun 05, 2019 12:29 pm

Tha clause is definitely better.

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Postby The Stalker » Thu Jun 06, 2019 5:43 pm

I support, it be good for Durk to have a fuller Condemning, though I don't think there is a need to repeal the other one. Personally I prefer resolutions done in the moment/era of an action, over rewrites years later.

I think Durk deserves both.
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The Stalker wrote:I support, it be good for Durk to have a fuller Condemning, though I don't think there is a need to repeal the other one. Personally I prefer resolutions done in the moment/era of an action, over rewrites years later.

I think Durk deserves both.


Hm, taking that into consideration, I'll probably not repeal the first one. I do think Durk deserves it and <3 Stalker.
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