But if they're irrelevant why does it matter if we have an embassy with them?
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by ShrewLlamaLand » Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:06 am
by Lord Dominator » Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:08 am
by ShrewLlamaLand » Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:12 am
Lord Dominator wrote:ShrewLlamaLand wrote:But if they're irrelevant why does it matter if we have an embassy with them?
Aside from you being under the mistaken impression that's your only problematic embassy, there's a wide gap between being relevant enough to justify offensive Liberation, and complete irrelevance.
by Grater Tovakia » Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:16 am
ShrewLlamaLand wrote:Lord Dominator wrote:Aside from you being under the mistaken impression that's your only problematic embassy, there's a wide gap between being relevant enough to justify offensive Liberation, and complete irrelevance.
Which other embassies would you, personally, classify as problematic?
I don't understand your point. They're not relevant enough to be liberated, but we are relevant and hence qualify for a liberation because we have an embassy with them? As far as I know, no other region has ever been liberated just for holding embassies.
by Lord Dominator » Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:18 am
ShrewLlamaLand wrote:Lord Dominator wrote:Aside from you being under the mistaken impression that's your only problematic embassy, there's a wide gap between being relevant enough to justify offensive Liberation, and complete irrelevance.
Which other embassies would you, personally, classify as problematic?
I don't understand your point. They're not relevant enough to be liberated, but we are relevant and hence qualify for a liberation because we have an embassy with them? As far as I know, no other region has ever been liberated just for holding embassies.
by The New California Republic » Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:21 am
ShrewLlamaLand wrote:Lord Dominator wrote:Aside from you being under the mistaken impression that's your only problematic embassy, there's a wide gap between being relevant enough to justify offensive Liberation, and complete irrelevance.
Which other embassies would you, personally, classify as problematic?
I don't understand your point. They're not relevant enough to be liberated, but we are relevant and hence qualify for a liberation because we have an embassy with them? As far as I know, no other region has ever been liberated just for holding embassies.
by Grater Tovakia » Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:22 am
Lord Dominator wrote:ShrewLlamaLand wrote:Which other embassies would you, personally, classify as problematic?
Nazi Europa for one.I don't understand your point. They're not relevant enough to be liberated, but we are relevant and hence qualify for a liberation because we have an embassy with them? As far as I know, no other region has ever been liberated just for holding embassies.
Embassies were not the only thing you were Liberated for, nor are they the only thing keeping it in place.
by Witchcraft and Sorcery » Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:23 am
ShrewLlamaLand wrote:You think we're fascists outside of NationStates because we don't denounce fascist regions within NationStates?
by ShrewLlamaLand » Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:38 am
Lord Dominator wrote:ShrewLlamaLand wrote:I don't understand your point. They're not relevant enough to be liberated, but we are relevant and hence qualify for a liberation because we have an embassy with them? As far as I know, no other region has ever been liberated just for holding embassies.
Embassies were not the only thing you were Liberated for, nor are they the only thing keeping it in place.
Witchcraft and Sorcery wrote:Instead of decrying and blackballing fascists as any respectable organization would do, CCD has defended them and gotten closer to them. Couple that with the annoying tag:all TGs and blatant, relentless self-promotion and you've broken just about every unwritten rule in the book. That's why your region is in the mess it's in and that's why it is utterly incapable of succeeding with these blatant attempts to self-promote.
Witchcraft and Sorcery wrote:Couple that with the annoying tag:all TGs and blatant, relentless self-promotion and you've broken just about every unwritten rule in the book. That's why your region is in the mess it's in and that's why it is utterly incapable of succeeding with these blatant attempts to self-promote.
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by Caracasus » Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:54 am
The New California Republic wrote:ShrewLlamaLand wrote:Which other embassies would you, personally, classify as problematic?
I don't understand your point. They're not relevant enough to be liberated, but we are relevant and hence qualify for a liberation because we have an embassy with them? As far as I know, no other region has ever been liberated just for holding embassies.
Are you quibbling yet again about whether some regions that you have embassies with are nazi regions?
by Evil Dictators Happyland » Tue Apr 02, 2019 9:01 am
ShrewLlamaLand wrote:Witchcraft and Sorcery wrote:Instead of decrying and blackballing fascists as any respectable organization would do, CCD has defended them and gotten closer to them. Couple that with the annoying tag:all TGs and blatant, relentless self-promotion and you've broken just about every unwritten rule in the book. That's why your region is in the mess it's in and that's why it is utterly incapable of succeeding with these blatant attempts to self-promote.
I still don't understand your point. We have no problems with fascist regions in game - why would we have a problem with them? Why should we be expected to denounce regions roleplaying fascists?
ShrewLlamaLand wrote:Witchcraft and Sorcery wrote:Couple that with the annoying tag:all TGs and blatant, relentless self-promotion and you've broken just about every unwritten rule in the book. That's why your region is in the mess it's in and that's why it is utterly incapable of succeeding with these blatant attempts to self-promote.
I strongly disagree, we're the 5th largest (non-puppet/card farming) user created region in the game, with a population of over 600 nations. Clearly something is working.
by Kurnugia » Tue Apr 02, 2019 9:17 am
Nazi Europa is dedicated to political education on matters such as National Socialism and the varying degrees of Fascism
by Lord Dominator » Tue Apr 02, 2019 9:20 am
by ShrewLlamaLand » Tue Apr 02, 2019 9:25 am
Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:ShrewLlamaLand wrote:I still don't understand your point. We have no problems with fascist regions in game - why would we have a problem with them? Why should we be expected to denounce regions roleplaying fascists?
Because A) nearly everybody else does and B) you seem very certain that there aren't any fascists in NS. You might try paying a visit to Nazi Europa to ask them if they're just RPing at some point, I'm sure that it will prove enlightening.
Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:ShrewLlamaLand wrote:I strongly disagree, we're the 5th largest (non-puppet/card farming) user created region in the game, with a population of over 600 nations. Clearly something is working.
Region size doesn't mean much of anything with regards to diplomacy. Convincing a noob to join your region is a very different thing from convincing an experienced player to help you out, and your constant stream of mass TGs (which I have long since blocked on this account, but I'm familiar with through puppets and other players) tells me that you really need to learn the difference.
by Bhang Bhang Duc » Tue Apr 02, 2019 9:28 am
and is well above the average age of feeder regions.
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by Evil Dictators Happyland » Tue Apr 02, 2019 10:44 am
ShrewLlamaLand wrote:Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:Region size doesn't mean much of anything with regards to diplomacy. Convincing a noob to join your region is a very different thing from convincing an experienced player to help you out, and your constant stream of mass TGs (which I have long since blocked on this account, but I'm familiar with through puppets and other players) tells me that you really need to learn the difference.
The Confederation's average population, which is the best measure of a nation's age, is over 2 billion. This works out to be about a year old.
This is pretty close to other large, user-created regions (again, like Europe or The Communist Bloc), and is well above the average age of feeder regions.
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