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by Kotarya » Sat Mar 16, 2019 9:11 am
by Farnhamia » Sat Mar 16, 2019 9:21 am
Scherzinger wrote:its nice to know that regardless of how good or bad this is, that the majority of people voting here are ok with Nazism. ALthough i am willing to bet that a good 70% of these people lean left, and since the left loves nazis and anti Semites, im not surprised that there is such an overwhelming majority against this proposal.
But whos gonna bother to read this and reply constructively? Since i live in the CCD and i have a history of speaking out against you democracy loving filth, it means that this whole remark is gonna get nothing but crud from yall. Thats ok, you profile me, i have no problem profiling you, as i did with the statement above.
For, purely because (irl) as a German disgusted with nazism and anti-semitism, i refuse to let some elitists who have been writing these things for years bash it because of 'bad english' or 'poor formatting' etc.
and now i wait for the reputable democracy lovers to respond in a more negative manner than my own.
by Kranostav » Sat Mar 16, 2019 9:49 am
Slackertown wrote:I just have to point out how hilarious it is to me that the complainers started off with "This will never make it to the vote" then once it made it to the vote, started complaining that it's illegal.
by Kinnies » Sat Mar 16, 2019 9:51 am
Kotarya wrote:It says we should be democratic, but at the same time encourages more people to avoid joining such regions. So basically: "Don't join them, go to a more "democratic" region instead, we are telling you what to do and how to do it, so we are more democratic than them".
So the conclusion is that you are the fascist region, not them.
by Bhang Bhang Duc » Sat Mar 16, 2019 10:30 am
Slackertown wrote:I just have to point out how hilarious it is to me that the complainers started off with "This will never make it to the vote" then once it made it to the vote, started complaining that it's illegal.
Pierconium wrote:I see Funk as an opportunistic manipulator that utilises the means available to him to reach his goals. In other words, a nation after my own heart.
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Sedgistan wrote:The SC has just has a spate of really shitty ones recently from Northumbria, his Watermelon fanboy…..
by True Democratic Socialism » Sat Mar 16, 2019 10:36 am
by The Feylands » Sat Mar 16, 2019 10:40 am
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by Isla Pobre » Sat Mar 16, 2019 11:07 am
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by The Black Party » Sat Mar 16, 2019 12:05 pm
by North Cross » Sat Mar 16, 2019 12:31 pm
Wrapper wrote:It wasn't my fault. Honest. I ran out of gas. I had a flat tire. I… I didn’t have enough money for cab fare. My tux didn’t come back from the cleaners. An old friend came in from out of town. Someone stole my car. There was an earthquake! A terrible flood! Locusts! IT WASN’T MY FAULT, I SWEAR TO GOD!
by Greater vakolicci haven » Sat Mar 16, 2019 12:31 pm
The Feylands wrote:A well thought out proposal.
And we hate nazism too. But this kind of narrow-minded and uncalled for moralism is only counter-productive and annoying.
Like - who the h*** cares?
by The Gilded Star » Sat Mar 16, 2019 1:26 pm
Kranostav wrote:Slackertown wrote:I just have to point out how hilarious it is to me that the complainers started off with "This will never make it to the vote" then once it made it to the vote, started complaining that it's illegal.
Its incredibly easy to get terrible proposals to vote when you throw money behind them. Without a campaign, this doesn't get north of 45 approvals. Don't pretend that there is some underlying support for this.
by The Reddington States » Sat Mar 16, 2019 2:04 pm
Honeydewistania wrote:The Reddington States wrote:I don't see the importance of a Civil Defence Siren. To start with, fascists are proud of their political views. Do they want liberals or leftists entering their region? The answer to that is probably not. You'd believe that the Civil Defence Siren is doing fascist regions a favor by scaring off users who follow "an ideology of degeneracy".
Furthermore, it's utterly ineffective in non-fascist regions. Redlandia should not be there but many of us stopped caring when we noticed that the number of members in the region grew by around twenty despite a siren in effect. The new members also questioned whether or not the CDS was factual. Our answer to their question was, "See for yourself and determine for yourself if our region is right for you".
The Civil Defence Siren is just kinda pointless. It didn't stop any new nations from joining CCD (a region I don't perceive as fascist but has a very difficult time alienating itself from actual fascists), or Redlandia, for that matter.
Regardless of the vote, I'm pretty glad the CDS was brought up. The CDS is like Wile E. Coyote trying to catch the Road Runner: it tries to negatively affect recruitment numbers but never really does.
The point of CDS is to let prospective members of these fascist regions know they're in a fascist region. For example, a normal dictatorship wants to join CCD but doesn't know its fascist. The CDS lets them know that. If they're fascist, well then okay.
Also my usual 'redlandia big fascist so their opinion doesn't matter' applies.
by Kuriko » Sat Mar 16, 2019 3:07 pm
The Imperial Empire of Jocospor → Slackertown, tag: delegates
1 day 18 hours ago
This one's OOC today.
A nation in my region, Slackertown, has recently written a Security Council proposal to Condemn Civil Defence Siren.
For those who don't know what this is, a handful of regions have been blacklisted by this "siren" - when a new nation joins one of the regions, they get a telegram along the lines of "Don't live here. Bad. Horrible place."
In my opinion, and I'm sure not everyone will agree, but this is unnecessary and, to be honest, pretty rude. Each of us are entitled to be allowed to create our own communities the way we want to. If you're not happy with someone's community, just don't be a part of it. And, on that, a lot of people who don't like certain communities just don't understand them. I'd encourage people to send puppets here and there if they really want to learn about a region's workings, not just fire off misrepresenting telegrams.
More so, a lot of the players who get the Civil Defence Siren are new (I think that must be specified in the API or something). These new players haven't had the opportunity to properly experience NationStates yet. It's not fair on them, or NationStates as a whole, to start perpetuating false understandings of what this game is.
Please approve this proposal. It seems the right thing to do, and will hopefully encourage the benefactors of the Civil Defence Siren to reconsider their actions.
Thanks everyone. Have a good day.
- Jocospor
by The Feylands » Sat Mar 16, 2019 4:35 pm
Hey there u! I'm Fey - the Celestial Fairy Princess! "Mᴀᴋɪɴɢ NS ᴄᴏsɪᴇʀ sɪɴᴄᴇ 2017!"® (◕‿◕✿) ♀, Vegetarian, Crazy Cat Lady, Dharmic Pagan, Metal, Fantasy, Elf/Fairy, Chinaboo, Yogi etc. How can I be so cuddly and huggable? ♥♥♥ Because I exist to ease the suffering of this world! (⌒▽⌒) #TheBuddhaRocks Little secret: I have a superpower called "ADHD". (^̮^) | ♥Her Radiance's Celestial Thought♥ Neat: Essentialism, Monarchy, Difference Feminism, Animal rights, Green Conservatism, 中国, Beauty, Dignity of all life ಠ~ಠ: Passive aggressive dorks, Abrahamic/Antropocentric world-view(s), the EU, celebrating ugliness.. I support Israel and everyone who suffer needlessly because of their own compassion.♥ (ಥ﹏ಥ) |
by The Gilded Star » Sat Mar 16, 2019 4:51 pm
The Feylands wrote:This kind of behaviour should legitimately get one booted out from any community in real life.
by The Reddington States » Sat Mar 16, 2019 5:42 pm
The Feylands wrote:Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Why aren't more people here like this guy...
Like this gal. But thank you anyway.
And yeh - I cannot phantom why someone would do something like this except out of some kind of obnoxious pathologically intolerant, psychologic need for the holier-than-thou feeling, at the expense of others. This kind of behaviour should legitimately get one booted out from any community in real life. (perhaps that's why this is happening online instead..? )
Almost got me to relocate to the CCD out of sympathy... but my nation doesn't really fit in there.
If a group of people are bad, please treat us players as capable enough of finding that out ourselves. If I want a damn sermon I can always go to a Church.
by The Reddington States » Sat Mar 16, 2019 5:49 pm
by Novum Vallis » Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:25 pm
The Reddington States wrote:The Feylands wrote:Like this gal. But thank you anyway.
And yeh - I cannot phantom why someone would do something like this except out of some kind of obnoxious pathologically intolerant, psychologic need for the holier-than-thou feeling, at the expense of others. This kind of behaviour should legitimately get one booted out from any community in real life. (perhaps that's why this is happening online instead..? )
Almost got me to relocate to the CCD out of sympathy... but my nation doesn't really fit in there.
If a group of people are bad, please treat us players as capable enough of finding that out ourselves. If I want a damn sermon I can always go to a Church.
The CDS not only angers residents of non-fascist regions, it confuses anyone who enters any of the listed regions. People are not stupid enough to follow the CDS's words like the Gospel. The CDS has always been questioned and, based on experience, all of them are likely to agree with the residents on whether or not their region is fascist, rather than the CDS itself.
The CDS is like if someone was trying to kill fire with fire and ended up making the fire bigger and brighter.
by Greater vakolicci haven » Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:28 pm
Kuriko wrote:I guess I'll be the one to provide the campaign telegram here for perusal.The Imperial Empire of Jocospor → Slackertown, tag: delegates
1 day 18 hours ago
This one's OOC today.
A nation in my region, Slackertown, has recently written a Security Council proposal to Condemn Civil Defence Siren.
For those who don't know what this is, a handful of regions have been blacklisted by this "siren" - when a new nation joins one of the regions, they get a telegram along the lines of "Don't live here. Bad. Horrible place."
In my opinion, and I'm sure not everyone will agree, but this is unnecessary and, to be honest, pretty rude. Each of us are entitled to be allowed to create our own communities the way we want to. If you're not happy with someone's community, just don't be a part of it. And, on that, a lot of people who don't like certain communities just don't understand them. I'd encourage people to send puppets here and there if they really want to learn about a region's workings, not just fire off misrepresenting telegrams.
More so, a lot of the players who get the Civil Defence Siren are new (I think that must be specified in the API or something). These new players haven't had the opportunity to properly experience NationStates yet. It's not fair on them, or NationStates as a whole, to start perpetuating false understandings of what this game is.
Please approve this proposal. It seems the right thing to do, and will hopefully encourage the benefactors of the Civil Defence Siren to reconsider their actions.
Thanks everyone. Have a good day.
- Jocospor
by The Black Party » Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:35 pm
The Imperial Empire of Jocospor → Slackertown, tag: delegates
1 day 18 hours ago
This one's OOC today.
A nation in my region, Slackertown, has recently written a Security Council proposal to Condemn Civil Defence Siren.
For those who don't know what this is, a handful of regions have been blacklisted by this "siren" - when a new nation joins one of the regions, they get a telegram along the lines of "Don't live here. Bad. Horrible place."
In my opinion, and I'm sure not everyone will agree, but this is unnecessary and, to be honest, pretty rude. Each of us are entitled to be allowed to create our own communities the way we want to. If you're not happy with someone's community, just don't be a part of it. And, on that, a lot of people who don't like certain communities just don't understand them. I'd encourage people to send puppets here and there if they really want to learn about a region's workings, not just fire off misrepresenting telegrams.
More so, a lot of the players who get the Civil Defence Siren are new (I think that must be specified in the API or something). These new players haven't had the opportunity to properly experience NationStates yet. It's not fair on them, or NationStates as a whole, to start perpetuating false understandings of what this game is.
Please approve this proposal. It seems the right thing to do, and will hopefully encourage the benefactors of the Civil Defence Siren to reconsider their actions.
Thanks everyone. Have a good day.
- Jocospor
by Novum Vallis » Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:44 pm
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Kuriko wrote:I guess I'll be the one to provide the campaign telegram here for perusal.The Imperial Empire of Jocospor → Slackertown, tag: delegates
1 day 18 hours ago
This one's OOC today.
A nation in my region, Slackertown, has recently written a Security Council proposal to Condemn Civil Defence Siren.
For those who don't know what this is, a handful of regions have been blacklisted by this "siren" - when a new nation joins one of the regions, they get a telegram along the lines of "Don't live here. Bad. Horrible place."
In my opinion, and I'm sure not everyone will agree, but this is unnecessary and, to be honest, pretty rude. Each of us are entitled to be allowed to create our own communities the way we want to. If you're not happy with someone's community, just don't be a part of it. And, on that, a lot of people who don't like certain communities just don't understand them. I'd encourage people to send puppets here and there if they really want to learn about a region's workings, not just fire off misrepresenting telegrams.
More so, a lot of the players who get the Civil Defence Siren are new (I think that must be specified in the API or something). These new players haven't had the opportunity to properly experience NationStates yet. It's not fair on them, or NationStates as a whole, to start perpetuating false understandings of what this game is.
Please approve this proposal. It seems the right thing to do, and will hopefully encourage the benefactors of the Civil Defence Siren to reconsider their actions.
Thanks everyone. Have a good day.
- Jocospor
NGL, he could have put 'greater vakolicci haven' at the end of that campaign telegram and I wouldn't have minded, the civil defence siren is one of the worst things about ns Antifa, as it spreads unproveable garbage to new people who don't know better.
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