[DEAFETED] Repeal of "Reproductive Freedoms" Act

[The New Nordic Union]

You all had seen the gen sec is more like a political commissars prganization which uses the hard ruler with their oppsition turning almost all illegal and the small ruler with their friends like Imperium anglorumm wgich aproved a resolution without nothing more than a line.

Do not try to cover their manipulation a lot of nations are aware now

OOC:
1. What?
2. GenSec does not have a political agenda.

[Hatzisland]

OOC: Why should the pro-choice side compromise? The GA is overwhelmingly pro-choice. We don't need to compromise to get what we want

There is a difference between pro-choice and pro-death. The difference is "Reproductive Freedoms". Pro-choice pushes for abortion in some cases, while pro-death is all in. The GA may be pro-choice, but I doubt, once they know the truth, be pro-death.

[Hatzisland]

OOC: Poverty isn't a reason if you were thinking of that

No. Come on, apply some brainpower here. Pregnant people who are into their third trimester are people who fully plan on giving birth to a child. Abortions only take place at this stage in deeply unfortunate circumstances where not terminating the pregnancy would result in serious health issues to the mother or child. Making third-trimester abortion illegal serves only to apply a criminal penalty to mothers facing a tragic dilemma, or to the doctors assisting them.

Very funny . The fact is, GA Resolution #128 specifically states that there is a right to an abortion at any time if there is a serious medical reason to do so. Sorry, but for all that build-up, your argument really was not thought out.

[Hatzisland]

You all had seen the gen sec is more like a political commissars prganization which uses the hard ruler with their oppsition turning almost all illegal and the small ruler with their friends like Imperium anglorumm wgich aproved a resolution without nothing more than a line.

Do not try to cover their manipulation a lot of nations are aware now

Does GenSec abuse it powers to favor left-leaning nations? Possibly. I wouldn't know. Is the GenSec nearly unanimously liberal? Yes. Should conservatives be added to balance out the liberals? Yes. Though I don't think the GenSec is abusing their powers, I do think a more right-leaning voice should be added to the table, as everyone is biased in some way.

[Virtual States]

A secure electronic message is received by the relevant World Assembly office. It reads:

"The National Government of the Union of Virtual States (please ignore our misclassification as a Federation, we are working to correct it) is firmly opposed to the proposed repeal and the reasoning behind it. We believe strongly in the right of any pregnant person to be the sole decider in whether or not to terminate their pregnancy, and are vehemently opposed to any legislation, national or international, that stands in their way.

We greatly anticipate this repeal being proposed formally and immediately slapped down-- along with, we suggest, the person who wrote the repeal in the first place.

World Assembly Liason Office, Department of Foreign Relations, National Government of the Union of Virtual States"

[The New Nordic Union]

You all had seen the gen sec is more like a political commissars prganization which uses the hard ruler with their oppsition turning almost all illegal and the small ruler with their friends like Imperium anglorumm wgich aproved a resolution without nothing more than a line.

Do not try to cover their manipulation a lot of nations are aware now

Does GenSec abuse it powers to favor left-leaning nations? Possibly. I wouldn't know. Is the GenSec nearly unanimously liberal? Yes. Should conservatives be added to balance out the liberals? Yes. Though I don't think the GenSec is abusing their powers, I do think a more right-leaning voice should be added to the table, as everyone is biased in some way.

OOC:
Since proposal rules are in no way political, it does not matter what (alleged) leaning GenSec members have.

[Hatzisland]

Does GenSec abuse it powers to favor left-leaning nations? Possibly. I wouldn't know. Is the GenSec nearly unanimously liberal? Yes. Should conservatives be added to balance out the liberals? Yes. Though I don't think the GenSec is abusing their powers, I do think a more right-leaning voice should be added to the table, as everyone is biased in some way.

OOC:
Since proposal rules are in no way political, it does not matter what (alleged) leaning GenSec members have.

Maybe, but people have their biases. That's just life.

[Wrapper]

The composition of GenSec is not the topic of this proposal. Back on topic, please.

[Hatzisland]

The composition of GenSec is not the topic of this proposal. Back on topic, please.

Will do.

[Separatist Peoples]

You all had seen the gen sec is more like a political commissars prganization which uses the hard ruler with their oppsition turning almost all illegal and the small ruler with their friends like Imperium anglorumm wgich aproved a resolution without nothing more than a line.

Do not try to cover their manipulation a lot of nations are aware now

OOC: If you don't want proposals removed, don't write them in ways that violate the rules. Simple.

[Wallenburg]

You all had seen the gen sec is more like a political commissars prganization which uses the hard ruler with their oppsition turning almost all illegal and the small ruler with their friends like Imperium anglorumm wgich aproved a resolution without nothing more than a line.

Do not try to cover their manipulation a lot of nations are aware now

OOC: If you don't want proposals removed, don't write them in ways that violate the rules. Simple.

^^This. GenSec has had growing pains for sure, and doesn't get everything right, but this conspiratorial nonsense is nothing more than a sad excuse for not following the rules.

[Kowani]

OOC: If you don't want proposals removed, don't write them in ways that violate the rules. Simple.

^^This. GenSec has had growing pains for sure, and doesn't get everything right, but this conspiratorial nonsense is nothing more than a sad excuse for not following the rules.

Tinfoil hats were on sale, that’s why.

[Falcania]

No. Come on, apply some brainpower here. Pregnant people who are into their third trimester are people who fully plan on giving birth to a child. Abortions only take place at this stage in deeply unfortunate circumstances where not terminating the pregnancy would result in serious health issues to the mother or child. Making third-trimester abortion illegal serves only to apply a criminal penalty to mothers facing a tragic dilemma, or to the doctors assisting them.

Very funny . The fact is, GA Resolution #128 specifically states that there is a right to an abortion at any time if there is a serious medical reason to do so. Sorry, but for all that build-up, your argument really was not thought out.

You believe that there are expectant human mothers who will happily carry a pregnancy for nine months and then terminate the pregnancy just before birth for no medical reason.

And you have the sheer gall to say that my argument is not thought out?

[Blueflarst]

Falcania is only trying to justify a progresdive political law enforced to all world assembly to bully the conservative, the fadcist, the theocracies and other right nations
Such a bully

[Separatist Peoples]

Falcania is only trying to justify a progresdive political law enforced to all world assembly to bully the conservative, the fadcist, the theocracies and other right nations
Such a bully

"The WA has a progressive voter base. Suck it up, ambassador."

[Falcania]

Falcania is only trying to justify a progresdive political law enforced to all world assembly to bully the conservative, the fadcist, the theocracies and other right nations
Such a bully

I'm typing the following out of character, as a player: fuck conservatives, fuck fascists, fuck the right wing. The General Assembly's motto is "improving the world one resolution at a time". That sounds like progressivism to me. If you don't like that, then leave.

[Nyasantara]

The government of the People's Republic of Nyasantara opposes any step back in reproductive freedoms and we look in dismay at the number of countries seemingly willing to take away the right for people, particularly women, to have autonomy and control over their own bodies. On this issue our stance is clear, government has no business getting in between a woman and her doctor, particularly if the reasons for doing so are borne from moralistic and reactionary political ideology.

[Hatzisland]

Very funny . The fact is, GA Resolution #128 specifically states that there is a right to an abortion at any time if there is a serious medical reason to do so. Sorry, but for all that build-up, your argument really was not thought out.

You believe that there are expectant human mothers who will happily carry a pregnancy for nine months and then terminate the pregnancy just before birth for no medical reason.

And you have the sheer gall to say that my argument is not thought out?

What I am saying is that GAR #128 protects the right to an abortion for medical reasons at any time! That is why your argument is not thought out!

[Separatist Peoples]

You believe that there are expectant human mothers who will happily carry a pregnancy for nine months and then terminate the pregnancy just before birth for no medical reason.

And you have the sheer gall to say that my argument is not thought out?

What I am saying is that GAR #128 protects the right to an abortion for medical reasons at any time! That is why your argument is not thought out!

"They have the right. There's nothing that says they use the right without valid reasons. And even if they did, so what? Its their body. Their call."

[Hatzisland]

Falcania is only trying to justify a progresdive political law enforced to all world assembly to bully the conservative, the fadcist, the theocracies and other right nations
Such a bully

I'm typing the following out of character, as a player: fuck conservatives, fuck fascists, fuck the right wing. The General Assembly's motto is "improving the world one resolution at a time". That sounds like progressivism to me. If you don't like that, then leave.

OOC: Obviously, you don't care at about the opposing argument, especially when you lose the debate(see argument above). You don't see me having a fit because my opinion isn't in the majority(though I can't really say my opinion is in the minority or majority). And world improvement isn't progressivism, it's common-sense. However, trying to take away the rights of sovereign nations to do so is very much a globalist progressive thing to do(which never works out in the real world. Look at Brexit and Trump for examples.)

[Hatzisland]

What I am saying is that GAR #128 protects the right to an abortion for medical reasons at any time! That is why your argument is not thought out!

"They have the right. There's nothing that says they use the right without valid reasons. And even if they did, so what? Its their body. Their call."

OOC: No! This is human rights we are talking about! If everyone has the right to "do what they want with their body", then why don't we legalize murder! At that point, we should legalize all crimes! So no, it is not just "their call". If everything was "their call", we would live in anarchy.

[Maowi]

"GAR #286 does perfectly fine. I believe that the ambassador from Falcania meant that nobody would spontaneously decide to abort their pregnancy after nine months for no good reason - especially as abortions can be risky. There is no need to tighten laws on something which isn't a problem. And as the ambassador from Separatist Peoples said, everyone should have the right to do what they like with their own bodies.
Opposed."

[Maowi]

OOC: No! This is human rights we are talking about! If everyone has the right to "do what they want with their body", then why don't we legalize murder!

Sep didn't say that everyone has the right to do what they want with other people's bodies.

[Araraukar]

OOC: No! This is human rights we are talking about! If everyone has the right to "do what they want with their body", then why don't we legalize murder!

OOC: Which part of "their body" is so hard to understand?

[Separatist Peoples]

"They have the right. There's nothing that says they use the right without valid reasons. And even if they did, so what? Its their body. Their call."

OOC: No! This is human rights we are talking about! If everyone has the right to "do what they want with their body", then why don't we legalize murder! At that point, we should legalize all crimes! So no, it is not just "their call". If everything was "their call", we would live in anarchy.

"Murder is the killing of another. The right to bodily sovereignty does not equate to murder. Liberal individual rights is beneficial insofar as it produces beneficial ends. Here, permitting abortion generates beneficial outcomes: Reduced unwanted pregnancies, reduced welfare costs, and the morally correct equivalency of bodily sovereignty between men and women. What possibly is the drawback to permitting abortion?"