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Postby Araraukar » Mon Feb 18, 2019 10:24 am

Cosmosplosion wrote:OOC - Totally missing how it looks like a coding error - I denoted the active clauses with bullet points.

OOC: The things coming after "furthermore" are active clauses too.
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Understanding the wide recreational usage of tobacco and other products containing nicotine;

Recognizing the addictive nature of nicotine;

Noting the exorbitant health care costs users of tobacco products incur due to the adverse health effects associated with tobacco, which in many cases, result in the death of member nation's own citizens at a young age, and further noting that in nations with government funded health care systems, the high tax-revenue cost associated with treating these health effects;

Acknowledging the popularity and lesser health risks of electronic cigarettes as an alternative to tobacco based products;

Emphasizing that the goal of this resolution is not to prevent people from purchasing tobacco and electronic cigarette products, but to establish a set of regulations on these industries and to promote the education of the risks associated with them;

The World Assembly hereby;

  • Defines a "tobacco product" as a product containing tobacco plant for the intent of recreational consumption. These products include, but are not limited to, cigarettes, chewing tobacco, and hookah;

  • Further defines an "electronic cigarette" as a device containing a liquid that is vaporized and inhaled, used to simulate the experience of smoking tobacco;

  • Mandates that all tobacco and electronic cigarette products containing nicotine which are intended for recreational consumption must be labeled with an identifier that states, “This product contains nicotine, a chemical known to be addictive;” and must take up at least 15% of the packaging of the product. This warning should be printed in the language local to the intended marketplace.

  • Requires that tobacco products must be labelled with an identifier which states, “This product is known to cause several types of cancer and other long term, serious health problems. If you are currently pregnant, consumption is known to cause birth defects;” and must take up at least 15% of the packaging of the product. This warning should be printed in the language local to the intended marketplace.

  • Further requires that electronic cigarette products that contain a liquid intended to be vaporized must state, “Do not ingest. Keep out of reach of children and infants.” This warning must take up at least 15% of the packaging of the product. This warning should be printed in the language local to the intended marketplace.

  • Demands that member nations educate all residents on the long term effects of tobacco use, by funding informational campaigns, targeted at both minor and adult smokers, encouraging them to quit smoking or to replace tobacco products with electronic cigarettes or related products, while also funding informational campaigns targeted at non-smokers, using pictures, detailed descriptions, and/or other forms of media to demonstrate the negative effects associated with tobacco product usage;


Furthermore,

Recommends member nations establish poison control centers, which shall provide emergency control services in the event that a tobacco or electronic cigarette product is improperly ingested;

Encourages member nations to prohibit the sale of tobacco products and electronic cigarettes to minors;

Urges member nations to prohibit advertisements for tobacco products;

Further encourages member nations to consider taking further action against tobacco use, especially among minors.


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Postby Cosmosplosion » Mon Feb 18, 2019 10:27 am

Araraukar wrote:
Cosmosplosion wrote:OOC - Totally missing how it looks like a coding error - I denoted the active clauses with bullet points.

OOC: The things coming after "furthermore" are active clauses too.
Cosmosplosion wrote:


OOC: Oh true, just was looking to emphasize the things that are required.
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Postby Samaster » Mon Feb 18, 2019 10:36 am

Wow, this looks really reasonable. Is there anything I missed about this resolution?

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Postby Kowani » Mon Feb 18, 2019 10:39 am

Samaster wrote:Wow, this looks really reasonable. Is there anything I missed about this resolution?

Oh, the usual objections-corporate rights, free speech, profit, and probably the slippery slope.
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Postby Cosmosplosion » Mon Feb 18, 2019 10:42 am

Kowani wrote:
Samaster wrote:Wow, this looks really reasonable. Is there anything I missed about this resolution?

Oh, the usual objections-corporate rights, free speech, profit, and probably the slippery slope.

Here's the thing - nothing in this resolution outlaws ANY tobacco or vaping product. All it does it make sure that warnings are placed on products (cancer, unsafe to ingest, addictive, keep out of reach of children) and further, educate the public on the dangers of tobacco specifically. If someone still wants to buy a cigarette or go to a hookah lounge, great! They are free to do that! They will just know more about what they're putting into their bodies.
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Postby Kowani » Mon Feb 18, 2019 11:33 am

Cosmosplosion wrote:
Kowani wrote:Oh, the usual objections-corporate rights, free speech, profit, and probably the slippery slope.

Here's the thing - nothing in this resolution outlaws ANY tobacco or vaping product. All it does it make sure that warnings are placed on products (cancer, unsafe to ingest, addictive, keep out of reach of children) and further, educate the public on the dangers of tobacco specifically. If someone still wants to buy a cigarette or go to a hookah lounge, great! They are free to do that! They will just know more about what they're putting into their bodies.

Oh, I agree entirely with the resolution. I’m just preempting the usual crowd before they start screeching. At least it’s not another “Nashunal sobrenty” yellfest.
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Postby Samaster » Mon Feb 18, 2019 11:34 am

Cosmosplosion wrote:
Kowani wrote:Oh, the usual objections-corporate rights, free speech, profit, and probably the slippery slope.

Here's the thing - nothing in this resolution outlaws ANY tobacco or vaping product. All it does it make sure that warnings are placed on products (cancer, unsafe to ingest, addictive, keep out of reach of children) and further, educate the public on the dangers of tobacco specifically. If someone still wants to buy a cigarette or go to a hookah lounge, great! They are free to do that! They will just know more about what they're putting into their bodies.


This is how I understood it as well. How could this impair free speech and sippery slope? Reducing profit and corporate rights I can understand, as they cannot deceive customers anymore.

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Postby Kowani » Mon Feb 18, 2019 11:38 am

Samaster wrote:
Cosmosplosion wrote:Here's the thing - nothing in this resolution outlaws ANY tobacco or vaping product. All it does it make sure that warnings are placed on products (cancer, unsafe to ingest, addictive, keep out of reach of children) and further, educate the public on the dangers of tobacco specifically. If someone still wants to buy a cigarette or go to a hookah lounge, great! They are free to do that! They will just know more about what they're putting into their bodies.


This is how I understood it as well. How could this impair free speech and sippery slope? Reducing profit and corporate rights I can understand, as they cannot deceive customers anymore.

As the Havenic ambassador put it the “right” to lie to customers apparently counts as free speech.
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Postby Cosmosplosion » Mon Feb 18, 2019 11:40 am

Kowani wrote:
Samaster wrote:
This is how I understood it as well. How could this impair free speech and sippery slope? Reducing profit and corporate rights I can understand, as they cannot deceive customers anymore.

As the Havenic ambassador put it the “right” to lie to customers apparently counts as free speech.

The question there then becomes, how many people really agree that that is a right? Not too many I would venture to say.
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Postby Samaster » Mon Feb 18, 2019 12:02 pm

Cosmosplosion wrote:
Kowani wrote:As the Havenic ambassador put it the “right” to lie to customers apparently counts as free speech.

The question there then becomes, how many people really agree that that is a right? Not too many I would venture to say.


Technically a deal based on a lie is void in most nations anyways. Anyways I support this.

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Postby Cosmosplosion » Mon Feb 18, 2019 4:29 pm

The resolution currently sits at 76 approvals, just two short of quorum! If you are a WA Delegate out there, make sure you go give that an approval and vote for it as soon as it comes to vote.
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Postby Cogidubnus » Mon Feb 18, 2019 4:38 pm

I would like to commend this legislation before it enters the GA this evening, on behalf of my whole region. Excellent work, all of you.

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Postby Cosmosplosion » Mon Feb 18, 2019 5:12 pm

We have reached quorum!
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Postby Separatist Peoples » Mon Feb 18, 2019 5:36 pm

"Hookah is not a tobacco product. Its the pipe."

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Postby Cosmosplosion » Mon Feb 18, 2019 5:45 pm

Separatist Peoples wrote:"Hookah is not a tobacco product. Its the pipe."

"Tobacco, or Mu'assel rather, is the intended product used in hookah pipes."
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Postby The New Nordic Union » Mon Feb 18, 2019 5:52 pm

Cosmosplosion wrote:
Separatist Peoples wrote:"Hookah is not a tobacco product. Its the pipe."

"Tobacco, or Mu'assel rather, is the intended product used in hookah pipes."


'That does not make the pipe a tobacco product, just as a beer glass is not an alcoholic product.'
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Postby Cosmosplosion » Mon Feb 18, 2019 5:56 pm

"For clarification - a hookah pipe is intended to have tobacco in it, and is therefore a tobacco product. However, it would only need the warning in Active Clause 4, as it does not contain nicotine but is intended to carry tobacco products. This warning would not be on the pipe itself, but on the packaging the pipe comes in. I apologize for the lack of clarity."
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Postby Groot » Mon Feb 18, 2019 6:23 pm

Cosmosplosion wrote:"For clarification - a hookah pipe is intended to have tobacco in it, and is therefore a tobacco product. However, it would only need the warning in Active Clause 4, as it does not contain nicotine but is intended to carry tobacco products. This warning would not be on the pipe itself, but on the packaging the pipe comes in. I apologize for the lack of clarity."

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Postby Cosmosplosion » Mon Feb 18, 2019 6:32 pm

Groot wrote:
Cosmosplosion wrote:"For clarification - a hookah pipe is intended to have tobacco in it, and is therefore a tobacco product. However, it would only need the warning in Active Clause 4, as it does not contain nicotine but is intended to carry tobacco products. This warning would not be on the pipe itself, but on the packaging the pipe comes in. I apologize for the lack of clarity."

“I am Groot,” says Groot, as he holds two hookahs in front of him, one with opium, and one with cannibis. He awaits the author’s reply.

"The intent remains the same - hookah pipes are designed for tobacco use. Is it possible to use a hookah pipe with other substances? Sure, and I encourage nations with legalized recreational drugs to consider further warnings regarding those drugs if the devices being sold are intended for those products."
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Postby Wabberjocky » Mon Feb 18, 2019 8:12 pm

Demands that member nations educate all residents on the long term effects of tobacco use, by funding informational campaigns

That sounds as if citizens have no choice but to accept that education whether they seek it or not.

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Postby Cosmosplosion » Mon Feb 18, 2019 8:19 pm

Wabberjocky wrote:Demands that member nations educate all residents on the long term effects of tobacco use, by funding informational campaigns

That sounds as if citizens have no choice but to accept that education whether they seek it or not.

Incorrect ambassador. Think of things like billboards, commercials, other forms of advertisements, posting notices at places that sell tobacco, as well as potential integration into the school system. None of these things prevent anyone from purchasing a tobacco product if they so choose.
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Postby Denieria » Mon Feb 18, 2019 9:55 pm

I am quite in favor of the proposal. It's of an utmost concern that we should protect people from the dangers of tobacco through warnings and comprehensive educational campaigns. I will try to talk to my Delegate to see what he thinks of such a resolution. I expect that he could be against the resolution, which is likely to be followed by the region.
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Postby Borovan3 » Mon Feb 18, 2019 10:09 pm

At vote
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Postby Iciaros » Mon Feb 18, 2019 10:10 pm

“It was my great pleasure to have endorsed this proposal at the delegate stage, Ambassador, and an even greater pleasure to have cast my nation’s vote for it on the floor. I wish your proposal the best of luck, and we look forward to its success.”
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Postby Elyreia » Mon Feb 18, 2019 10:33 pm

We are glad to see this resolution at vote, and will follow through with our vote in favor. Well done in crafting the legislation, regardless of its fate from here on.
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