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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Mon Feb 25, 2019 12:32 pm

Zemnaya Svoboda wrote:
Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:Pretty certain TWP was the first GCR to implement a security system such as you describe for TNP. Happened when TAO was Delegate and that’s more than a decade ago.

A major difference between TNP's Security Council and TWP's Guardians is that (to the best of my knowledge) the Guardians have always been appointed by and answerable to the Delegate. TNP's Security Council is selected by itself and the citizen legislature, and answerable to the citizen legislature.

TNP of course established its regional influence-based security council December 29, 2008.

Partly true, Guardians are appointed by the Delegate and are primarily accountable to the Delegate. However, they are also a bulwark against a rogue Delegate and have the safety of TWP as their secondary concern. TWP Guardians using regional influence have been around since early to mid 2007.
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Postby Battlion » Mon Feb 25, 2019 7:37 pm

I expect this will be voted through, however in recent months some of the positions TNP has taken on resolutions has been a concern and as such I don’t want to condone them.

However, what’s highlighted in the resolution are strong arguments.

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Fedele
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Postby Fedele » Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:16 pm

To say that I'm a day late and a dollar short here would be putting it kindly but this is a bit of a let down for me, personally. As someone who has spent time in The North Pacific, I know that the inter-regional standard they set for due process and presumption of innocence as well as their bona fide work for the global good are more deserving of commendation than being couped multiple times, having a cult of personality, and being active.

This is a region with a rich history that has been deeply involved in inter-regional affairs and the commendation proposed seems unfortunately inward focused.

Sorry to sound like a downer. It isn't in my nature to kill a buzz.

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Postby Scherzinger » Mon Feb 25, 2019 11:27 pm

Anzu looked at the commendation. After reading it, she laughed hysterically.

"hahahahahahhaaahahaa.....no"

OOC though: I spent a considerable amount of time there, unfortunately, and theres not much to do and democracy is quite forced there, so much annoying vote for me shenanigans and just a boring region all in all. A region that is being commended because its so free is just disturbing, but i know this post will just be scrolled over since most of the WA and SC thinks backwards
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Postby Malphe » Tue Feb 26, 2019 6:04 am

Scherzinger wrote:OOC though: I spent a considerable amount of time there, unfortunately, and theres not much to do and democracy is quite forced there, so much annoying vote for me shenanigans and just a boring region all in all. A region that is being commended because its so free is just disturbing, but i know this post will just be scrolled over since most of the WA and SC thinks backwards

I'm not sure I catch your point.
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Postby Fedele » Tue Feb 26, 2019 7:33 am

One more thing: Commending them for being members of ADN and UDL in the past is quite strange and seems to lack historical perspective. It would make more sense to commend them for taking the difficult path of divorcing themselves from those organizations that infringed upon their sovereignty. Neither of those were easy experiences for TNP but they were necessary actions and the leadership there had the resolve needed.

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Postby Frattastan IV » Tue Feb 26, 2019 9:30 am

Scherzinger wrote:so much annoying vote for me shenanigans


Isn't that the gist of democracy? :P
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Postby Gagium » Tue Feb 26, 2019 1:19 pm

Against. While I don't believe in commending any of the feeders or other large GCRs as a whole, I also don't believe we should be commending based upon satire or fictional religions (Plenty of other religions have one or both of those), being influential (Of course they are, they're a feeder), deciding to take part in R&D as a feeder in 2012 (So did plenty of other regions), having influential members within their region being able to guard their region (Again...Plenty of regions are capable of having influential members to defend their region), or even be able to recover from coups (They're a feeder, of course they'd be able to recover).

If this passes, I believe that it will eventually lead to the commendation of several other GCRs and feeders backed by themselves, and I don't believe this is a good precedent to set.
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Postby Zemnaya Svoboda » Tue Feb 26, 2019 1:24 pm

Fedele wrote:One more thing: Commending them for being members of ADN and UDL in the past is quite strange and seems to lack historical perspective. It would make more sense to commend them for taking the difficult path of divorcing themselves from those organizations that infringed upon their sovereignty. Neither of those were easy experiences for TNP but they were necessary actions and the leadership there had the resolve needed.

Just to be clear, as far as I know no region was ever a member of UDL and TNP never had any treaty or other formal arrangements with the organization.

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Postby Unibot III » Tue Feb 26, 2019 4:59 pm

Zemnaya Svoboda wrote:
Fedele wrote:One more thing: Commending them for being members of ADN and UDL in the past is quite strange and seems to lack historical perspective. It would make more sense to commend them for taking the difficult path of divorcing themselves from those organizations that infringed upon their sovereignty. Neither of those were easy experiences for TNP but they were necessary actions and the leadership there had the resolve needed.

Just to be clear, as far as I know no region was ever a member of UDL and TNP never had any treaty or other formal arrangements with the organization.


Also Scardino is being a bit disingenuous about ADN's history with TNP.

The NPO trying to divorce TNP from the ADN via a rogue delegate account - and ADN helping to liberate TNP, hardly counts as a difficult divorce.
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Postby Bear Connors Paradiso » Tue Feb 26, 2019 6:41 pm

Scherzinger wrote:Anzu looked at the commendation. After reading it, she laughed hysterically.

"hahahahahahhaaahahaa.....no"

OOC though: I spent a considerable amount of time there, unfortunately, and theres not much to do and democracy is quite forced there, so much annoying vote for me shenanigans and just a boring region all in all. A region that is being commended because its so free is just disturbing, but i know this post will just be scrolled over since most of the WA and SC thinks backwards

This is the reason I never joined. Not that I have bad will towards them, but I hope it doesn't pass.

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Postby Killer Kitty » Wed Feb 27, 2019 12:22 am

Unibot III wrote:Also Scardino is being a bit disingenuous about ADN's history with TNP.


And calling ALL one of the "most formidable" defender groups in NS history would also be disingenuous, since it was practically dead within a year.

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Postby Routcher » Wed Feb 27, 2019 12:56 am

I voted no because I live by a simple philosophy: "If the word 'Pacific' is in the name, the region is no good".
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Postby Malphe » Wed Feb 27, 2019 1:22 am

Unibot III wrote:
Zemnaya Svoboda wrote:Just to be clear, as far as I know no region was ever a member of UDL and TNP never had any treaty or other formal arrangements with the organization.


Also Scardino is being a bit disingenuous about ADN's history with TNP.

The NPO trying to divorce TNP from the ADN via a rogue delegate account - and ADN helping to liberate TNP, hardly counts as a difficult divorce.

Unibot, there are already people who think you've got more to do with this proposal than Tin has admitted, and you actively defending the parts people think you insisted should be added in isn't helping your case. Go unibot somewhere else, this is helping nobody.
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That darn Malphe guy is a real menace - Imki
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Postby Gracius Maximus » Wed Feb 27, 2019 5:46 am

Unibot III wrote:
Zemnaya Svoboda wrote:Just to be clear, as far as I know no region was ever a member of UDL and TNP never had any treaty or other formal arrangements with the organization.


Also Scardino is being a bit disingenuous about ADN's history with TNP.

The NPO trying to divorce TNP from the ADN via a rogue delegate account - and ADN helping to liberate TNP, hardly counts as a difficult divorce.

Actually, the departure from ADN was completely legal and through a vote of the Cabinet, not the individual actions of a single Delegate. After the failures of IP and Cathyy in not keeping a UN-multi out of the Delegacy, TNP still didn’t rejoin the ADN.
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Postby Zemnaya Svoboda » Wed Feb 27, 2019 9:52 am

While one can interpret The North Pacific's laws of the day as granting the leadership that discretion, the Minister of Justice instructed that the withdrawal be reversed, and a referendum of some kind held. It was a messy situation.
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Postby Gracius Maximus » Wed Feb 27, 2019 11:25 am

Zemnaya Svoboda wrote:While one can interpret The North Pacific's laws of the day as granting the leadership that discretion, the Minister of Justice instructed that the withdrawal be reversed, and a referendum of some kind held. It was a messy situation.

The instruction was framed as an opinion and the Delegate overruled the MoJ because the Cabinet had been consulted prior to the MoEA withdrawing TNP from the ADN and there were several legal issues with the ruling as presented.
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Postby Zemnaya Svoboda » Wed Feb 27, 2019 1:35 pm

Perhaps the most compelling part of what that Minister opined is the existence of a prior Cabinet decision that specified that a poll would be held before The North Pacific would leave the Alliance Defense Network.

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Postby Gracius Maximus » Wed Feb 27, 2019 2:27 pm

Zemnaya Svoboda wrote:Perhaps the most compelling part of what that Minister opined is the existence of a prior Cabinet decision that specified that a poll would be held before The North Pacific would leave the Alliance Defense Network.

Things moved quickly. Perhaps someone else had better advice for the Delegate and Cabinet at the time...
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Postby Unibot III » Wed Feb 27, 2019 10:22 pm

Malphe wrote:
Unibot III wrote:
Also Scardino is being a bit disingenuous about ADN's history with TNP.

The NPO trying to divorce TNP from the ADN via a rogue delegate account - and ADN helping to liberate TNP, hardly counts as a difficult divorce.

Unibot, there are already people who think you've got more to do with this proposal than Tin has admitted, and you actively defending the parts people think you insisted should be added in isn't helping your case. Go unibot somewhere else, this is helping nobody.


It’s not “my case” to help.

I’ve been a routine critic of TNP for years, I did not substantively contribute to the text nor do I care if TNP is commended. I don’t recall writing the part being cited, it certainly doesn’t sound like me - the clause ends by praising independentism for christ’s sake.

It’s not my job to control the irrational fears of others. If some people want to treat me as the bogeyman, that’s their prerogative and I couldn’t feel less of an obligation to coddle them. I’ve been very clear and exhaustive what my position on the North Pacific has been for about six years and it’s not “commend them!”
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Postby Bycrest » Thu Feb 28, 2019 12:09 am

I vote against this commendation.

Recently, a faction of The North Pacific has made a grave transgression against my region by raiding it in hopes if would serve as "practice for defending a pile." This has lead to much confusion in the region of Winterfell and given me much unneeded stress in trying to get defenders to assist with this matter. As the delegate of the region, I was not informed ahead of time about this "operation" as they would call it and it took a full two days for anyone from TNP to contact me. In that time, my vice-delegate and I have tried recruiting other nations that aren't normally world assembly members to try to assist us with taking back our region. These nations were promptly kicked and banned, which lead to one The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord starting an investigation as to who raided my region and for what purpose. This lead to the region of Enadia falsely taking the credit for this raid, which is their only involvement in this case.

After more investigation from Swaglord and our allied region Forest, TNP's Minister of Defense finally reached out to me through telegram to explain the situation. Unfortunately, this does little to reverse the consequences of this raid. Sure, they may be able to put our regional information back to where it was, but there are actions on my end that now have to be reverse. The current delegate, who is a puppet of TNP's Home Affairs Minister, is currently calling him/herself the "Supreme Overlord" and has not apologized for his/her actions, even though the case has been more or less resolved. There is also the issue of this puppet openly mocking me after I made a statement reassure my fellow region-mates that we shouldn't have to worry about raiders.

This act alone, openly raiding a neutral and passive region for the sake of "practice" is a black mark on what I would assume to be a spotless record. Winterfell has had very little to no dealings with TNP in the past, to my knowledge, and now we will view them with contempt and mistrust. I will be making an announcement to the rest of my region that any and all world assembly members should vote against this commendation, as I know our allies in Forest are also changing their vote to against.
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Postby Armaros » Thu Feb 28, 2019 3:08 am

Bycrest wrote:I vote against this commendation.

Recently, a faction of The North Pacific has made a grave transgression against my region by raiding it in hopes if would serve as "practice for defending a pile." This has lead to much confusion in the region of Winterfell and given me much unneeded stress in trying to get defenders to assist with this matter. As the delegate of the region, I was not informed ahead of time about this "operation" as they would call it and it took a full two days for anyone from TNP to contact me. In that time, my vice-delegate and I have tried recruiting other nations that aren't normally world assembly members to try to assist us with taking back our region. These nations were promptly kicked and banned, which lead to one The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord starting an investigation as to who raided my region and for what purpose. This lead to the region of Enadia falsely taking the credit for this raid, which is their only involvement in this case.

After more investigation from Swaglord and our allied region Forest, TNP's Minister of Defense finally reached out to me through telegram to explain the situation. Unfortunately, this does little to reverse the consequences of this raid. Sure, they may be able to put our regional information back to where it was, but there are actions on my end that now have to be reverse. The current delegate, who is a puppet of TNP's Home Affairs Minister, is currently calling him/herself the "Supreme Overlord" and has not apologized for his/her actions, even though the case has been more or less resolved. There is also the issue of this puppet openly mocking me after I made a statement reassure my fellow region-mates that we shouldn't have to worry about raiders.

This act alone, openly raiding a neutral and passive region for the sake of "practice" is a black mark on what I would assume to be a spotless record. Winterfell has had very little to no dealings with TNP in the past, to my knowledge, and now we will view them with contempt and mistrust. I will be making an announcement to the rest of my region that any and all world assembly members should vote against this commendation, as I know our allies in Forest are also changing their vote to against.

How horrifying.

Ya know, raiding regions for practice is not uncommon. And about the "informed in advance": that's terrible OpSec, telling your target they're being targetted. This story makes no sense.
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Postby Frattastan IV » Thu Feb 28, 2019 3:24 am

Armaros wrote:Ya know, raiding regions for practice is not uncommon. And about the "informed in advance": that's terrible OpSec, telling your target they're being targetted. This story makes no sense.


Probably. On the other hand, not wanting to commend someone who just attacked your region seems entirely reasonable.
At most it's the opposite (voting for despite that) that would be surprising and in need of a justification.
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Postby Battlion » Thu Feb 28, 2019 3:34 am

Raiding for practice, should always be done appropriately, If this is true, which I deeply hope not, then this completely nullifies the commendation.

I’d like to see TNP come forward with their own explanation.

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