[PASSED] International Criminal Protocol

[Nevertopia]

That protective confinement be be utilized only when there exists a clear and present danger to holding the prisoner within the general prison area,

Does this typo invalid the legislature at all?

[Tinfect]

That protective confinement be be utilized only when there exists a clear and present danger to holding the prisoner within the general prison area,

Does this typo invalid the legislature at all?

OOC:
No.

[Owarinai]

I would love for this to pass, but unfortunately it seems as though it’ll be a close one. Regardless of the outcome, The People’s Republic of Owarinai will fully support this.

[Laeden]

The prohibition on punitive confinement is ludicrous, and because of this, I'm voting against.

[Heavens Reach]

We are confused by the views of several ambassadors who believe that this proposal, if brought to resolution, would effectively block legislation disclaiming member nations of the ability to practice capital punishment. A proposal which eliminates capital punishment would not in any way create a contradiction with this proposal as it is presently written: it would simply render certain clauses irrelevant. It is perfectly possible to require that those facing execution be afforded certain rights and to not allow executions to be performed at all. Both are simultaneously true when the latter mandate is ascribed -- it simply makes the former mandate unnecessary and legally superfluous (but leaves intact its effect).

[Tinfect]

We are confused by the views of several ambassadors who believe that this proposal, if brought to resolution, would effectively block legislation disclaiming member nations of the ability to practice capital punishment. A proposal which eliminates capital punishment would not in any way create a contradiction with this proposal as it is presently written: it would simply render certain clauses irrelevant. It is perfectly possible to require that those facing execution be afforded certain rights and to not allow executions to be performed at all. Both are simultaneously true when the latter mandate is ascribed -- it simply makes the former mandate unnecessary and legally superfluous (but leaves intact its effect).

OOC:
Please read the proposal.

Reserves to Member-States the right to determine the legality of capital punishment within their jurisdiction,

[Heavens Reach]

We are confused by the views of several ambassadors who believe that this proposal, if brought to resolution, would effectively block legislation disclaiming member nations of the ability to practice capital punishment. A proposal which eliminates capital punishment would not in any way create a contradiction with this proposal as it is presently written: it would simply render certain clauses irrelevant. It is perfectly possible to require that those facing execution be afforded certain rights and to not allow executions to be performed at all. Both are simultaneously true when the latter mandate is ascribed -- it simply makes the former mandate unnecessary and legally superfluous (but leaves intact its effect).

OOC:
Please read the proposal.

Reserves to Member-States the right to determine the legality of capital punishment within their jurisdiction,

OOC: Fair enough.

IC: Upon revisiting the proposal, and understanding that this is, in fact, a bad faith attempt to reduce access to human rights, rather than to expand them, we will submit a vote of against in the matter of International Criminal Protocol

[Apollo 19]

Don’t tell me how to run my Criminal Justice System. This bill is getting to invasive on the Sovereign Rights of my Nation. I am vehemently opposed to this resolution as is the rest of Apollo 19.

[Bairamcea]

I have issues regarding the "Civil Rights" of this legislation. It claims to want to "immediately prevent any further abuses of criminal justice systems," yet it ignores a huge issue in many criminal justice systems. This bill prohibits "The practice of forced prisoner labor," yet still allows Capital Punishment. I believe that if we truly want a bill that is a champion for the civil rights of the accused than we must eliminate capital punishment as a whole. While this bill doesn't force the use of capital punishment, "Reserves to Member-States the right to determine the legality of capital punishment within their jurisdiction," this bill does little to improve the Civil Rights for those incarcerated around the world. I find this piece of legislation to be misguided and ill advised. I believe that the hypocrisy demonstrated in this bill will, in return, cause only more unethical behavior to be demonstrated inside Member's Justice systems.

I have yet to cast my vote on this piece of legislation. I look forward to hearing your response before casting my vote.

With Respect,
Bairamcea WA delegate representing Rantariztan

[Zironie]

I have a question. My nation has no prisons, and allows capital and corporal punishment. Would this getting passed remove or change those policies?

[Separatist Peoples]

I have a question. My nation has no prisons, and allows capital and corporal punishment. Would this getting passed remove or change those policies?

"Extant law already prevents executions from being carried out, ambassador."

[Wealthatonia]

Does this resolution apply to those of us without a police force and rely on private superheroes and Private Law enforcement to handle the laws?

[Wallenburg]

Does this resolution apply to those of us without a police force and rely on private superheroes and Private Law enforcement to handle the laws?

Yes.

[The New California Republic]

The solitary confinement ban is a dealbreaker for us. As such, we are voting against.

[Klauswanti]

Isolation and the use of it is necessary to rehabilitate prisoners. We cannot accept this left-radical bill.

[The Grand Imperial Reich]

Yeah, banning solitary is kinda uncool. Against.

[Astrobolt]

Yeah, banning solitary is kinda uncool. Against.

"What is wrong with banning solitary confinement? Its a practice that is akin to a form of torture."

[The Grand Imperial Reich]

Yeah, banning solitary is kinda uncool. Against.

"What is wrong with banning solitary confinement? Its a practice that is akin to a form of torture."

It's just kinda lame really.

[Separatist Peoples]

"What is wrong with banning solitary confinement? Its a practice that is akin to a form of torture."

It's just kinda lame really.

"Ah, yes. Torture is cool, banning torture is lame. Very convincing."

[The New California Republic]

Yeah, banning solitary is kinda uncool. Against.

"What is wrong with banning solitary confinement? Its a practice that is akin to a form of torture."

If the solitary confinement is longer than a few days, extending to weeks and months then yes it arguably is torture. However, interpreting the text in the proposal as it is written, it bans all solitary confinement, even for a matter of hours or days. Short term solitary isn't torture.

If it banned solitary confinement that was longer than a week then yes, I'd support it, but it's the fact that even short-term solitary is going to be banned too that makes me vote against.

[Bounapartia]

The delegation of Bounapartia is against this resolution. Bounapartia believes in the use of punitive confinement as an effective way to punish rowdy prisoners, albeit for a few days at most. The outright ban is excessive and Bounapartia will therefore be opposed to this resolution.

[Meone]

This request is quite unclear , first does this mean community service is banned? And what can be considered punitive confinement anyways? Are you requesting for us to ban prisons?

[Wallenburg]

"What is wrong with banning solitary confinement? Its a practice that is akin to a form of torture."

If the solitary confinement is longer than a few days, extending to weeks and months then yes it arguably is torture. However, interpreting the text in the proposal as it is written, it bans all solitary confinement, even for a matter of hours or days. Short term solitary isn't torture.

Yes, it is.

This request is quite unclear , first does this mean community service is banned? And what can be considered punitive confinement anyways? Are you requesting for us to ban prisons?

"Punitive confinement" is defined in the resolution. It doesn't include all prisons. Please read the resolution.

[Wealthatonia]

Does this resolution apply to those of us without a police force and rely on private superheroes and Private Law enforcement to handle the laws?

Yes.

We will not follow this resolution. It's a violation of our national principals of nothing publically funded.

[Tinfect]

Yes.

We will not follow this resolution. It's a violation of our national principals of nothing publically funded.

OOC:
Nothing in this proposal exempts private entities or requires that prisons be funded publicly. Please read the proposal.