[DEFEATED] Liberate The Coalition Of Fascist Nations

[Jocospor]

Sweet summer child. We are the founder.

I’m aware you are. Your antics here have earned you way more attention than anyone should be giving you normally. And when you’re gone, either via DEAT or retirement, we’re waiting.

As for this region, not sure a Liberation is super necessary at this point in time, but we’ll see.

You may indeed be waiting quite some time.

[Kuriko]

I’m aware you are. Your antics here have earned you way more attention than anyone should be giving you normally. And when you’re gone, either via DEAT or retirement, we’re waiting.

As for this region, not sure a Liberation is super necessary at this point in time, but we’ll see.

You may indeed be waiting quite some time.

At the rate you accrue forum bans and warnings, they won't need to wait too long.

[Jocospor]

You may indeed be waiting quite some time.

At the rate you accrue forum bans and warnings, they won't need to wait too long.

Only a fish who wants to be eaten takes the bait, sir.

The discussion at hand here is the liberation of the CoFN, a most unlawful and unethical manoeuvre.

[Kuriko]

At the rate you accrue forum bans and warnings, they won't need to wait too long.

Only a fish who wants to be eaten takes the bait, sir.

The discussion at hand here is the liberation of the CoFN, a most unlawful and unethical manoeuvre.

Unlawful? There's no such thing as law in NS, except GA resolutions and what laws regions draft for themselves to follow.

[North Saitama]

Not this, again.

Absolutely AGAINST. This ideological warfare and abuse of the World Assembly needs to stop, right now.

[The Tri State Area and Maine]

Not this, again.

Absolutely AGAINST. This ideological warfare and abuse of the World Assembly needs to stop, right now.

It's not really abuse, but yeah It seems like a pretty pointless proposal to me.

[Mombombu]

I am strongly voting against this. I don't agree with what the Coalition of Fascist Nations stands for, but this is a blatantly political resolution. A liberation would be completely inappropriate for a region such as this. I am vehemently opposed to using liberations as a more powerful form of condemnation.

Offensive liberations against active regions should never be tolerated, regardless of their ideology.
This is the official position of Africa.

[Aquidneck]

A clear violation of the principle of sovereignty and an abuse of the World Assembly Security Council. While we do not condone or agree with the ideology of fascism, it is not our place to impose our will on other sovereign nations. These continued overreaches by ideologue members in both this Council and in the General Assembly will only cause long term harm to this esteemed body. The Kingdom of Aquidneck votes no and urges others to do the same.

[Marshite Ponies]

"Hello. I am Ambassador Twilight Sparkle and I am here to explain the Republic's opposition to this resolution. While we have a strong distaste for fascism and believe it an inferior and frankly weak philosophy, that alone does not warrant a 'liberation' of a region that does not desire it and does not commit to actions that would require something akin to liberation. In this context, liberation is code for a full-frontal assault and invasion, which is something the Republic will always oppose. It also has no barrier to entry as is; theoretically, most of what could be accomplished by this resolution could just as easily be accomplished without it. Indeed, we believe this very resolution is a boon to them. While it may not be the same as a condemnation, it may still be considered a 'badge of honor' that it was 'attacked' in such a way. For these reasons, we vote Against this Resolution. Thank you, and have a Harmonious day."

[Drop Your Pants]

I don't agree with what the Coalition of Fascist Nations stands for, but this is a blatantly political resolution.

Of course it is. This is a political game, did you miss the memo?

[Mr Bubbly]

We are officially tired of this "demostrative" fight trought the incorrect use of a WA resolution type which is meant to, and I quote, "A resolution to strike down Delegate-imposed barriers to free entry in a region."

As I've said earlier, Liberations are not supposed to be used in a particular way, whether through game coding or Commandment of Mod; there have been plenty which have intended to build up to an attack on regions, and many more supposed to prevent their passwording by invaders.

Uh huh. Just how well did it work out when we liberated Nazi Europe? (I'll wait while you did through thousands of forum posts.) tl;dr? It didn't. Months and months of useless voting, seeing it crushed time and again. Then by the grace of god, one passed. Was NE invaded? Nope. It was invaded after the liberation was repealed, and Evil Wolf had managed to get the password, after NE abandoned the region to refound. So your little endeavor here, and the rest of the wasted liberations, are just that, a waste of time.

Now, let's be clear here. I would raid the region or any nazi region given the first chance. But passing liberations, in hopes that someone can bait a founder into a DEAT? WOW! Is this really what it has come to? Even Antifa, or The Red Fleet didn't resort to this, and they went as far as doctoring telegrams in hopes of getting a founder DEAT'd. Just give it up already.

[Xoriet]

Uh huh. Just how well did it work out when we liberated Nazi Europe? (I'll wait while you did through thousands of forum posts.) tl;dr? It didn't. Months and months of useless voting, seeing it crushed time and again. Then by the grace of god, one passed. Was NE invaded? Nope. It was invaded after the liberation was repealed, and Evil Wolf had managed to get the password, after NE abandoned the region to refound. So your little endeavor here, and the rest of the wasted liberations, are just that, a waste of time.

Now, let's be clear here. I would raid the region or any nazi region given the first chance. But passing liberations, in hopes that someone can bait a founder into a DEAT? WOW! Is this really what it has come to? Even Antifa, or The Red Fleet didn't resort to this, and they went as far as doctoring telegrams in hopes of getting a founder DEAT'd. Just give it up already.

Seriously, your inability to post as yourself completely invalidates anything you actually have to say. And just because people back then were slow says nothing about today’s response time. Living in the past doesn’t always make you an expert on a subject.

On a similar note, nobody is trying to bait the Nazis into DEAT. We’re all pretty confident that they don’t need our help to manage that.

[Jar Wattinree]

On a similar note, nobody is trying to bait the Nazis into DEAT. We’re all pretty confident that they don’t need our help to manage that.

In fact, that's the whole reason for these Libs, to deny fascists the chance to gather their wits after their founder is DEAT'd.

[Caldreania]

While I was initially for the liberation, it got me thinking, CoFN has been for it's whole existence a more or less neutral region, with a now defunct military, so it is not a threat to other regions. Even back in the day, it hadn't been part of things like the RWU.

There might be some members there with disturbing views, and while the argument that Fascism, like any collectivist and authoritarian ideology is utterly flawed and problematic to say the least, it is self contained and any ill comments will be dealt with naturally through other laws which already prevent hateful comments.
I also fear a bias. CoFN is a medium sized region, with less than a 100 member nations (can't remember if it ever had close or more than 100), which is isolationist. So, a medium sized isolationist region is being targeted for it's ideology, while larger regions, which follow a similar ideology and are aggressive, like The Internationale and North Korea, are being skipped over.

[Kilkerneys Landing]

This bill just seems pointless. Indeed they are fascists but at the same time what have they done other than support an ideology that is not looked well upon? I read accounts of one raid they have done, but other than that have they attempted to do any other format? And at the same time should we begin punishing communist coups? The Coalition of Fascist Nations stands to itself and remains isolated, let them discuss their views on their own accord, if they were to mount multiple raids on many regions (such as the antifascists who tear through tons of regions) then yes I would believe you could punish these people. And finally, there is simply nothing here to liberate. I vote against simply because this seems like some way to use the World Assembly to advance an agenda.

[Mombombu]

I don't agree with what the Coalition of Fascist Nations stands for, but this is a blatantly political resolution.

Of course it is. This is a political game, did you miss the memo?

I say it's blatantly political in that it goes after this region for no reason other than politics.

There is no legitimate basis for this "liberation".

If anything, the only point of this resolution is to make the region easier for raiding some time in the future.

[ShrewLlamaLand]

If anything, the only point of this resolution is to make the region easier for raiding some time in the future.

You're absolutely correct, it's made in the hope that their founder will one day CTE, leaving the liberated region with a big red target on its back. Well, that and "they're fascist, therefore they're bad".

Thankfully it looks as though the resolution will fail to pass by a fairly large margin.

[Kokoku]

Not this, again.

Absolutely AGAINST. This ideological warfare and abuse of the World Assembly needs to stop, right now.

Yup, against.

[TheWorldWinner]

This may not be what the people want but i plead u to vote for because this world assembly is a democratic Organization and supports freedom and civil rights and as such WE HAVE TO LET THEM PROCEED WITH THEIR IDEOLOGICAL IDEAS even if they are Anti-WA

[Wrapper]

This may not be what the people want but i plead u to vote for because this world assembly is a democratic Organization and supports freedom and civil rights and as such WE HAVE TO LET THEM PROCEED WITH THEIR IDEOLOGICAL IDEAS even if they are Anti-WA

Ummm... huh?

[Jar Wattinree]

This may not be what the people want but i plead u to vote for because this world assembly is a democratic Organization and supports freedom and civil rights and as such WE HAVE TO LET THEM PROCEED WITH THEIR IDEOLOGICAL IDEAS even if they are Anti-WA

Sadly, this appeal will fall by the wayside. Also you're kinda late to the bandwagon since the proposal is getting voted down anyway.

[Cosmopolitan borovan]

Liberate the Coalition of Fascist Nations was defeated 10,471 to 4,009.

[Indo-Malaysia]

Liberate the Coalition of Fascist Nations was defeated 10,471 to 4,009.

Huzzah!