[PASSED] Debtor Voting Rights

[Tinfect]

State capture is the idea that the state can get captured by private entities to do their bidding. You know, the entire basis for leftist thought's belief that the state is an arm of bourgeoisie? Oh, and one cannot forget the anti-semitism which rolls just naturally along with its demonisation of "financiers" (code words much?).

OOC:
You see, this is how I know that you haven't the slightest clue what you're on about. The idea of State Capture is a fundamentally different concept from the Marxist understanding of the State, and originates from the fucking World Bank.

Second, what the fuck is it with you and random unfounded accusations of antisemitism? Don't think I didn't catch your use of State Capture here to lead directly into it either.

[Kenmoria]

“Full support, not that I think it matters, as the vast majority of the WA populace are fully willing to vote against a proposal for reasons of length.”

[Imperium Anglorum]

This is now at vote.

[Free City of Rigia]

Short, simple, and to the point.

[Tinfect]

OOC:
So, how in all the nine hells, does this not just duplicate CoCR?

[Wallenburg]

OOC:
So, how in all the nine hells, does this not just duplicate CoCR?

CPPs are one helluva drug. You're free to issue a challenge, if you think GenSec might adopt that sort of interpretation, though.

[People of Phoenix]

You're free to issue a cha.......

No!

[Frankland]

I am withholding a vote pending research into resident's positions on the importance of size.

[Kenmoria]

I am withholding a vote pending research into resident's positions on the importance of size.

(OOC: Was that intended to be a public poll? I just voted on it, but the word ‘residents’ suggests you were deciding the regional vote, which would make more sense to be just St. Abbadon.)

[Uan aa Boa]

Another furtherance of democracy proposal with which totalitarian states are automatically compliant.

[SeattleNinja008]

Great idea, just needs some more "fluff" to stand up with the rest of the WA. At least one Preamblitory clause would have made this a much better proposal.

[Thuzbekistan]

That's a sorry excuse for a resolution

[Blueflarst]

This is short!
Yes it is. And the site has passed shorter.

It is very bad to justify on fatal error of very hsorts resolutions to pass another short resolution.

I will not guarantee rigths to people in debts due they have lost their sovereignity in the economic plans they have to work until recover it in fact people in debts should be saw as scum which do not accomplish with the society excepting the cases of people taking a loan for doing bussiness after. I strongly againist protecting morons but the resolution do not affect really to me cause i am not a democracy but a royal dictatorship
This is another example of liberalism took in the bad way

[Blueflarst]

THE RIGHTS OF A PERSON IN DEBT ARE TO PAY DEBTS AND WORK

[Blueflarst]

This is short!
Yes it is. And the site has passed shorter.

It is an insult to all the World Assembly members from the General World Assembly secretariat to have allowed a one line proposal to be legal while more complex ones are declared illegal for trying to repeal political interference in the of the world assembly. You know this just confirmed me the fact of the General Sec being politized in favor of liberalism and international interventionism to settle liberal values intead of improving the world

[Tonguo]

Dear honorable members of the World Assembly,
We must understand that politics should be a fair playing field for parties to propagate their ideology and gain votes through means that do not require the usage of bribery to buy votes from the people. It may be true that even if an individual is not bankrupt, rich political parties might still choose to use money as a means to obtain votes but it would definitely be worse in the case of bankrupt individuals as they are more likely to opt into taking said money in exchange for votes.
In order to maintain a true democracy free from corruption we must look towards a world that is fair for all

[Blueflarst]

Dear honorable members of the World Assembly,
We must understand that politics should be a fair playing field for parties to propagate their ideology and gain votes through means that do not require the usage of bribery to buy votes from the people. It may be true that even if an individual is not bankrupt, rich political parties might still choose to use money as a means to obtain votes but it would definitely be worse in the case of bankrupt individuals as they are more likely to opt into taking said money in exchange for votes.
In order to maintain a true democracy free from corruption we must look towards a world that is fair for all

A world is not fair if we let bribes in the first place. Tha bribes should be prosecuted.
A world is not fair if we protect people in debt with right which they had lost by being morons.
The parties should not be allowed to obtain votes with moneis

[Tonguo]

Dear honorable members of the World Assembly,
We must understand that politics should be a fair playing field for parties to propagate their ideology and gain votes through means that do not require the usage of bribery to buy votes from the people. It may be true that even if an individual is not bankrupt, rich political parties might still choose to use money as a means to obtain votes but it would definitely be worse in the case of bankrupt individuals as they are more likely to opt into taking said money in exchange for votes.
In order to maintain a true democracy free from corruption we must look towards a world that is fair for all

A world is not fair if we let bribes in the first place. Tha bribes should be prosecuted.
A world is not fair if we protect people in debt with right which they had lost by being morons.
The parties should not be allowed to obtain votes with moneis

I agree individuals who are bankrupt must not have the capability to choose who rules the country next, similarly to how we disallow bankrupt individuals to become members of the legislative body

[Blueflarst]

"And yet benign dictatorship may result in a near-utopia, for workers and unemployed both," Johan muttered, not looking up from the novel he was reading.

"Benignity and dictatorship are mutually exclusive. No people is happy that is not free."

You are provenly mistaken being beningn is full compatible which being a good dictator and the enlightened despotism is the best prove of tha.

All for the people without the people. People is like a child their rights would be manipulated and butchered in a democracy cause political manipulators

[Ragnaria]

This shouldn't even be a thing anymore, this isn't the 1800's anymore, debtors are still people.

Besides, earnings via intrest is theft and ENEMY OF PEOPLE!

[Regal Georgia]

This shouldn't even be a thing anymore, this isn't the 1800's anymore, debtors are still people.

Besides, earnings via intrest is theft and ENEMY OF PEOPLE!

liek, its the current year, bro

[South Kchina]

The World Assembly hereby

Bars member nations from invoking the non-payment of court fees or other debts owed to the government as a reason to deprive a person of the suffrage.

This has a loophole.
Step 1: Criminalize non-payment of court fees or other debts owed to the government.
Step 2: Make the punishment two days of imprisonment for each day they don't pay.
Step 3: Disenfranchise incarcerated criminals.

This remains unanswered. Imperium Anglorum, why do you just ignore critique? Please address it.

[Falcania]

Brevity is not itself a reason to cast down legislation - indeed, clarity is key, and long-windedness is something to be avoided in a legislative context.

What is a reason to cast down legislation, however, is lack of forethought.

The World Assembly is an august body of nations, each of whom has a distinct set of cultural mores. While members are broadly agreed on many of these cultural mores - the advocacy of law and order, the rights of sapient species, and so forth, there are many cultural mores that we do not all agree on.

This legislation proposes that an individual's debt is not a reason to disqualify a person from voting. It does not make any attempt to explain why a person should not be disqualified from voting if they are in financial debt. It makes no attempt to define the circumstances in which this would apply (for example, votes on a national or regional level? Elections? Referenda? Votes in private contexts? If an individual is in debt to a corporation in which they have a financial and controlling interest, are they entitled to vote for the cancellation of that debt?)

[Desmosthenes and Burke]

IC: This is less offensive than normal for proposals from the Empire of the Angles, it still purports to meddle in the purely domestic affairs of member states and their domestic political affairs. The brevity, while commendable for not attempting to insist that this assembly is august or excellent, makes it ridiculously easy to accomplish the purportedly forbidden act. Still, as a matter of principle, against.

OOC: I have no clue what possessed IA to try to be quite this brief, but the loopholes are large enough to accommodate Donald Trump's ego and Jean-Luc Mélenchon's stupidity at the same time.

[Aexnidaral]

Good stuff, IA. Short and simple -- love it. We definitely support!