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Reploid Productions
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Postby Reploid Productions » Thu Oct 04, 2018 3:11 pm

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Reploid Productions wrote:Eeyup. And 'The United Australian States' as well.

Are you saying The United Australian States was an account of The Ghost of Tiyrannus Three or they simply operated together?

They're the same player, sorry if I wasn't clear.
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Postby Viridus » Thu Oct 04, 2018 3:29 pm

Reploid Productions wrote:
Quebecshire wrote:Are you saying The United Australian States was an account of The Ghost of Tiyrannus Three or they simply operated together?

They're the same player, sorry if I wasn't clear.

Man it's really scary how many connections Crimsonfield had
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Postby Hamstan » Thu Oct 04, 2018 3:32 pm

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Postby Prydania » Thu Oct 04, 2018 3:53 pm

Thank you mods, and congradulations New Waldensia and everyone else in the FCN :)
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Postby The New Fandom Republic » Thu Oct 04, 2018 3:55 pm

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Postby Cedoria » Thu Oct 04, 2018 4:35 pm

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Clodius wrote:Attempting to "reclaim" regions from raiders is just ideological warfare waged by defenders to silence the ideological opinions of those they disagree with! No one ever liberates defender held regions. Besides, they're not really raiders, they just make raider jokes on discord.

The Security Council has become a meme. It should be referred to its original purpose, commending and condemning! Any thing else is evil and stalinist, probably.

Raiding is still the dumbest thing to ever be done here. Ti think people like destroying communities.

Raiders are the only thing the SC should be against.

Your personal opinion. Evidently not one shared by many.
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Cedoria
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Postby Cedoria » Thu Oct 04, 2018 4:38 pm

That said, glad to see cheating was dealt with. Whatever one's views on this Resolution, that wasn't the way to accomplish it.
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Postby Washingtonian Republic » Thu Oct 04, 2018 4:56 pm

Reploid Productions wrote:
Quebecshire wrote:Are you saying The United Australian States was an account of The Ghost of Tiyrannus Three or they simply operated together?

They're the same player, sorry if I wasn't clear.
This is by far is the largest scandal in NS history
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Postby Kuriko » Thu Oct 04, 2018 4:58 pm

Reploid Productions wrote:As the proposal currently at vote was submitted by a cheater operating multiple WA nations at the time of submission (nor is this Crimsonfield's first time doing so,) the proposal has been marked Discard. In addition, both Crimsonfield and his partner-in-cheating Tiyrannus are barred for one year from the WA.

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Lord Dominator
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Postby Lord Dominator » Thu Oct 04, 2018 4:59 pm

Washingtonian Republic wrote:
Reploid Productions wrote:They're the same player, sorry if I wasn't clear.
This is by far is the largest scandal in NS history

Hardly

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Postby Washingtonian Republic » Thu Oct 04, 2018 5:12 pm

Lord Dominator wrote:
Washingtonian Republic wrote: This is by far is the largest scandal in NS history

Hardly
Haven’t been on the site long enough to see it all. Also Crimsonfield and Greater Sonoraland appear to be controlled by same user.
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Postby Lord Dominator » Thu Oct 04, 2018 5:16 pm

Washingtonian Republic wrote:
Lord Dominator wrote:Hardly
Haven’t been on the site long enough to see it all. Also Crimsonfield and Greater Sonoraland appear to be controlled by same user.

WA multis happen on a daily basis if I remember correctly, and two nations being controlled by the same user is hardly newsworthy otherwise

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Postby Gagium » Thu Oct 04, 2018 5:45 pm

Lord Dominator wrote:
Washingtonian Republic wrote: Haven’t been on the site long enough to see it all. Also Crimsonfield and Greater Sonoraland appear to be controlled by same user.

WA multis happen on a daily basis if I remember correctly, and two nations being controlled by the same user is hardly newsworthy otherwise

A proposal by someone who was WA multi’ing and taking advantage of the SC behind his puppet in a failed attempt to get back at another region, however? With the fact that several WA nations were created by his associate to help reach the proposal to quorum? Especially when it concerns Crimsonfield? That’s not something you see every day, and the fact that this offensive liberation proposal managed to get to queue and further tarnish the reputation of the SC as a whole?
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Postby The Tri State Area and Maine » Thu Oct 04, 2018 5:47 pm

Washingtonian Republic wrote:
Reploid Productions wrote:They're the same player, sorry if I wasn't clear.
This is by far is the largest scandal in NS history


To echo what Lord Dominator said, this isn't even close. It's a small scandal at best.

Gagium wrote:
Lord Dominator wrote:WA multis happen on a daily basis if I remember correctly, and two nations being controlled by the same user is hardly newsworthy otherwise

A proposal by someone who was WA multi’ing and taking advantage of the SC behind his puppet in a failed attempt to get back at another region, however? With the fact that several WA nations were created by his associate to help reach the proposal to quorum? Especially when it concerns Crimsonfield? That’s not something you see every day


99% of people have no idea who Crimsonfield is. This isn't even the most significant thing involving WA multis and the SC in the past year, it's not relevant in terms of NS in total.

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Postby Wrapper » Thu Oct 04, 2018 5:48 pm

Washingtonian Republic wrote:This is by far is the largest scandal in NS history

I'm guessing you never heard of Predator. Or the United Nations cease and desist letter. Or Jolt. Or NationStates 2. Or... I can keep going. This doesn't even make the top ten.

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Gagium
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Postby Gagium » Thu Oct 04, 2018 5:50 pm

The Tri State Area and Maine wrote:
Gagium wrote:A proposal by someone who was WA multi’ing and taking advantage of the SC behind his puppet in a failed attempt to get back at another region, however? With the fact that several WA nations were created by his associate to help reach the proposal to quorum? Especially when it concerns Crimsonfield? That’s not something you see every day


99% of people have no idea who Crimsonfield is. This isn't even the most significant thing involving WA multis and the SC in the past year, it's not relevant in terms of NS in total.

It indeed is relevant ‘in terms of NS’, and I can’t really recall the last time something of this sort happened this year. There probably have been other WA multi’ing incidents this years but creating 10+ WA nations to get a proposal to quorum..
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Lord Dominator
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Postby Lord Dominator » Thu Oct 04, 2018 5:53 pm

Gagium wrote:
The Tri State Area and Maine wrote:

99% of people have no idea who Crimsonfield is. This isn't even the most significant thing involving WA multis and the SC in the past year, it's not relevant in terms of NS in total.

It indeed is relevant ‘in terms of NS’, and I can’t really recall the last time something of this sort happened this year. There probably have been other WA multi’ing incidents this years but creating 10+ WA nations to get a proposal to quorum..

That's because this normally doesn't happen since people don't usually care that much (or understand quorum mechanics that well), and they can usually manage to submit it perfectly legally. Still doesn't mean this is a very big deal (that, and 10+ is overkill when you only need 3 at most).

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Postby Lord Dominator » Thu Oct 04, 2018 5:53 pm

Wrapper wrote:
Washingtonian Republic wrote:This is by far is the largest scandal in NS history

I'm guessing you never heard of Predator. Or the United Nations cease and desist letter. Or Jolt. Or NationStates 2. Or... I can keep going. This doesn't even make the top ten.

You forgot the April Annihilation :p

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Postby Jar Wattinree » Thu Oct 04, 2018 6:13 pm

Washingtonian Republic wrote:
Reploid Productions wrote:They're the same player, sorry if I wasn't clear.
This is by far is the largest scandal in NS history

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Postby Wallenburg » Thu Oct 04, 2018 6:25 pm

Washingtonian Republic wrote:
Reploid Productions wrote:They're the same player, sorry if I wasn't clear.
This is by far is the largest scandal in NS history

Certainly not. Biggest scandal of the month? Most likely.
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Postby Lord Dominator » Thu Oct 04, 2018 6:37 pm

Wallenburg wrote:
Washingtonian Republic wrote: This is by far is the largest scandal in NS history

Certainly not. Biggest scandal of the month? Most likely.

Most noticeable scandal of the month that involves NS rule-breaking. Let's go with that.

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Postby RiderSyl » Thu Oct 04, 2018 7:25 pm

Washingtonian Republic wrote:This is by far is the largest scandal in NS history


Hahahahahahaha that's not even remotely true.
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Postby Jocospor » Thu Oct 04, 2018 10:23 pm

Oh dear, cheaters using the WA as a weapon. Tisk tisk. *the Delegate's Office shakes its head remorsefully*
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Postby Visionary Union » Thu Oct 04, 2018 11:02 pm

This is certainly embarrassing. Regardless of my personal thoughts on the issue, cheating is clearly not the way to pass this... Although I think that FCN will surely act against true fascists, and stay true to their conservative tag, which holds many ideas worthy of debate.

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Postby Glacikaldr » Thu Oct 04, 2018 11:29 pm

It's almost like cheating, and then putting yourself directly into the spotlight of the mods' and players' attention through a controversial SC proposal, isn't the brightest idea.
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