NATION

PASSWORD

[PASSED] Repeal Convention on International Oil Spills

A carefully preserved record of the most notable World Assembly debates.
User avatar
Lord Dominator
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 8900
Founded: Dec 22, 2016
Right-wing Utopia

[PASSED] Repeal Convention on International Oil Spills

Postby Lord Dominator » Tue Sep 25, 2018 8:54 pm

"Fear not my fellow ambassadors, I'm still working on my other nuclear stuff, but this needed some repealing and fixing, and I've been held up on some writing details. Enjoy!"

Repeal "Convention on International Oil Spills"

Category: Repeal
Resolution: 444
Proposed By: Lord Dominator

The World Assembly,

Applauding the resolution at hand for its work at improving the environment,

But Concerned that clause 3 of the resolutions micro-manages member nations to a degree that may be harmful to the resolution's mission by:
  • Mandating technologies that may be or are obsolete in some member nations,
  • Using vague language regarding maintenance and inspections such as "every couple of years" and "regularly,"
Saddened that clause 4 also lists a number of technologies that may become or already are obsolete in member nations,

Believing that the micromanagement and excruciating specificity inherent in this resolution:
  • Will leave nations unable to adapt to better technologies,
  • Potentially wastes resources following mandates that aren't necessary in all nations,
  • Includes strong suggestions that overstep reasonable bounds of the WA with instructions for spill clean-up that are better left to individual nations to determine properly,
Incensed at the needless re-treading of ground already covered in part by Responsible Offshore Drilling and Reducing Spills and Leaks and yet leaving regulation of reduction and clean-up of wildlife impact uselessly vague,

Bemoaning the listed flaws and occasional poor grammar usage,

Repeals GA 444 "Convention on International Oil Spills."


OOC: What's the proper way to link resolutions in the text? This also probably sucks because it's late here, but I wanted to do this sooner rather than later.
Last edited by Ransium on Sat Oct 13, 2018 9:10 pm, edited 16 times in total.

User avatar
Lord Dominator
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 8900
Founded: Dec 22, 2016
Right-wing Utopia

Postby Lord Dominator » Tue Sep 25, 2018 8:54 pm

Repeal "Convention on International Oil Spills"

Category: Repeal
Resolution: 444
Proposed By: Lord Dominator

The World Assembly,

Applauding the resolution at hand for it's work at improving the environment,

Concerned that the resolution attempts to micro-manage member with the various requirements in clause 3,

Further concerned that clause 3c uses "every couple of years" as a requirement when that is vague language at best,

Saddened that clause 4,
  • Lists a number of technologies that may become or already are obsolete in member nations,
  • Is optional,
Incensed at the needless re-treading of ground already covered in part by Responsible Offshore Drilling and Reducing Spills and Leaks when such things as reducing and cleaning up wildlife impact is left vague at best,

Perturbed at the resolution's misuse of the word maritime when marine is obviously meant,

Bemoaning the flaws and micro-managing of the resolution,

Repeals GA 444 "Convention on International Oil Spills"
Repeal "Convention on International Oil Spills"

Category: Repeal
Resolution: 444
Proposed By: Lord Dominator

The World Assembly,

Applauding the resolution at hand for its work at improving the environment,

Concerned that clause 3 of the resolutions micro-manages member nations to a degree that may be harmful to the resolution's mission by,
  • Mandating technologies that may be or are obsolete in some member nations
  • Usage of vague language regarding maintenance and inspections such as "every couple of years" and "regularly,"
Saddened that clause 4,
  • Lists a number of technologies that may become or already are obsolete in member nations,
  • Is optional,
Incensed at the needless re-treading of ground already covered in part by Responsible Offshore Drilling and Reducing Spills and Leaks when such things as reducing and cleaning up wildlife impact is left vague at best,

Perturbed at the resolution's misuse of the word maritime when marine is obviously meant,

Bemoaning the flaws and micro-managing of the resolution,

Repeals GA 444 "Convention on International Oil Spills"
Last edited by Lord Dominator on Sat Sep 29, 2018 8:28 pm, edited 2 times in total.

User avatar
Imperium Anglorum
GA Secretariat
 
Posts: 12664
Founded: Aug 26, 2013
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Imperium Anglorum » Tue Sep 25, 2018 10:19 pm

Giving reasons why micromanaging in this case would be bad for the environnement would be helpful for buttressing your argument.

Author: 1 SC and 56+ GA resolutions
Maintainer: GA Passed Resolutions
Developer: Communiqué and InfoEurope
GenSec (24 Dec 2021 –); posts not official unless so indicated
Delegate for Europe
Elsie Mortimer Wellesley
Ideological Bulwark 285, WALL delegate
Twice-commended toxic villainous globalist kittehs

User avatar
Crazybloxian Empire
Diplomat
 
Posts: 611
Founded: Apr 01, 2018
Libertarian Police State

Postby Crazybloxian Empire » Tue Sep 25, 2018 10:46 pm

Hey, guys, this resolution seems well and good, but I’ve beaten you to the finish line. Sorry about that!
Last edited by Crazybloxian Empire on Tue Sep 25, 2018 10:52 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Crazybloxian Empire


User avatar
Kenmoria
GA Secretariat
 
Posts: 7914
Founded: Jul 03, 2017
Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Kenmoria » Tue Sep 25, 2018 11:27 pm

Crazybloxian Empire wrote:Hey, guys, this resolution seems well and good, but I’ve beaten you to the finish line. Sorry about that!

(OOC: Seeing as that proposal wasn’t drafted for any length of time, this one stands a much better chance of passing. There are often many repeal attempts after a resolution passes, but only one can pass.)

“Seeing as even the authoring delegation wants to repeal its own resolution, I may as well support.”
Hello! I’m a GAer and NS Roleplayer from the United Kingdom.
My pronouns are he/him.
Any posts that I make as GenSec will be clearly marked as such and OOC. Conversely, my IC ambassador in the General Assembly is Ambassador Fortier. I’m always happy to discuss ideas about proposals, particularly if grammar or wording are in issue. I am also Executive Deputy Minister for the WA Ministry of TNP.
Kenmoria is an illiberal yet democratic nation pursuing the goals of communism in a semi-effective fashion. It has a very broad diplomatic presence despite being economically developing, mainly to seek help in recovering from the effect of a recent civil war. Read the factbook here for more information; perhaps, I will eventually finish it.

User avatar
Rovikstead
Chargé d'Affaires
 
Posts: 437
Founded: Dec 05, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby Rovikstead » Wed Sep 26, 2018 3:42 am

OOC: I strongly support this proposal. I would recommend mentioning the question of legality and the resolution's ambiguities and explain that this bill fails to cover key issues of oil spills like the rehabilitation of wildlife affected by the spill, but regardless, you put out a strong argument. Hopefully, this passes.

Crazybloxian Empire wrote:Hey, guys, this resolution seems well and good, but I’ve beaten you to the finish line. Sorry about that!

Please do not use other people's drafting threads to pimp out your proposal. It's rude and completely unconstructive towards LD's work.

Edit: And now Crazy's proposal is deemed illegal by Bears Armed.
Last edited by Rovikstead on Wed Sep 26, 2018 5:09 am, edited 1 time in total.
Author of Convention on International Oil Spills, A Convention on Freshwater Shortages
Co-Author of Reducing Food Waste
Former Minister of Culture in TEP
The Glorious Third Reign of Templedom wrote:** RED FLAG ** . ** RING CHURCH BELLS ** . ** BESTIALITY ALERT ** . ** CHRISTIANS TAKE COVER **

User avatar
Lord Dominator
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 8900
Founded: Dec 22, 2016
Right-wing Utopia

Postby Lord Dominator » Wed Sep 26, 2018 11:45 am

Imperium Anglorum wrote:Giving reasons why micromanaging in this case would be bad for the environnement would be helpful for buttressing your argument.

I've generally done the best I can, but can't think of any other good arguments to make there. Also merged the clause about 3c into the clause about 3 in general
Crazybloxian Empire wrote:Hey, guys, this resolution seems well and good, but I’ve beaten you to the finish line. Sorry about that!

Don't care
Rovikstead wrote:OOC: I strongly support this proposal. I would recommend mentioning the question of legality and the resolution's ambiguities and explain that this bill fails to cover key issues of oil spills like the rehabilitation of wildlife affected by the spill, but regardless, you put out a strong argument. Hopefully, this passes.

OOC: I don't particularly want to allude to major legality concerns, but I did mention my general concerns about areas already being covered. Wildlife rehabilitation was mentioned at the end of the "Incensed" clause.

User avatar
Ransium
Retired Moderator
 
Posts: 6788
Founded: Oct 17, 2006
Democratic Socialists

Postby Ransium » Wed Sep 26, 2018 1:29 pm

Crazybloxian Empire wrote:Hey, guys, this resolution seems well and good, but I’ve beaten you to the finish line. Sorry about that!


*** Given your endless history of spam, 3-day ban for spamming an advertisement for your proposal in someone else’s thread. ***
Last edited by Ransium on Wed Sep 26, 2018 1:31 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Commended by SC 236,
WA Delegate of Forest from March 20th, 2007 to August 19, 2020.
Author of WA Resolutions: SC 221, SC 224, SC 233, SC 243, SC 265, GA 403, GA 439, GA 445,GA 463,GA 465,
Issues Editor since January 20th, 2017 with some down time.
Author of 27 issues. First editor of 44.
Moderator since November 10th 2017 with some down time.

User avatar
Isansland
Lobbyist
 
Posts: 14
Founded: Sep 05, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby Isansland » Wed Sep 26, 2018 2:36 pm

The real concern in this resolution is that nations are being forced to reduce their reliance on fossil fuels.
2. Urges member nations to reduce their reliance on fossil fuels, and switch to alternate, eco-friendly energy sources including solar, wind, or geothermal energy;

User avatar
Of the Quendi
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 15447
Founded: Mar 18, 2010
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Of the Quendi » Wed Sep 26, 2018 2:43 pm

Isansland wrote:The real concern in this resolution is that nations are being forced to reduce their reliance on fossil fuels.
2. Urges member nations to reduce their reliance on fossil fuels, and switch to alternate, eco-friendly energy sources including solar, wind, or geothermal energy;

The Ardanian SMFAWA fervently looks through her worn out copy of the Oxford Dictionary of English. "Ambassador." She proclaims. "I do believe there is quite a distinction between "urging" and "forcing"."
Nation RP name
Arda i Eruhíni (short form)
Alcarinqua ar Meneldëa Arda i Eruhíni i sé Amanaranyë ar Aramanaranyë (long form)

User avatar
Kenmoria
GA Secretariat
 
Posts: 7914
Founded: Jul 03, 2017
Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Kenmoria » Wed Sep 26, 2018 2:46 pm

Isansland wrote:The real concern in this resolution is that nations are being forced to reduce their reliance on fossil fuels.
2. Urges member nations to reduce their reliance on fossil fuels, and switch to alternate, eco-friendly energy sources including solar, wind, or geothermal energy;

(OOC: As hasn’t been said, that was optional. There is no forceful requirement to comply. It also doesn’t say by how much, so reducing just one joule per decade would count. It’s one of the many ambiguities that led to Zone 71/Rovikstead wanting to repeal the resolution.)
Hello! I’m a GAer and NS Roleplayer from the United Kingdom.
My pronouns are he/him.
Any posts that I make as GenSec will be clearly marked as such and OOC. Conversely, my IC ambassador in the General Assembly is Ambassador Fortier. I’m always happy to discuss ideas about proposals, particularly if grammar or wording are in issue. I am also Executive Deputy Minister for the WA Ministry of TNP.
Kenmoria is an illiberal yet democratic nation pursuing the goals of communism in a semi-effective fashion. It has a very broad diplomatic presence despite being economically developing, mainly to seek help in recovering from the effect of a recent civil war. Read the factbook here for more information; perhaps, I will eventually finish it.

User avatar
Isansland
Lobbyist
 
Posts: 14
Founded: Sep 05, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby Isansland » Wed Sep 26, 2018 2:53 pm

Of the Quendi wrote:
Isansland wrote:The real concern in this resolution is that nations are being forced to reduce their reliance on fossil fuels.

The Ardanian SMFAWA fervently looks through her worn out copy of the Oxford Dictionary of English. "Ambassador." She proclaims. "I do believe there is quite a distinction between "urging" and "forcing"."


Please take a look at your graphs, what happened to your mining numbers.

User avatar
Isansland
Lobbyist
 
Posts: 14
Founded: Sep 05, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby Isansland » Wed Sep 26, 2018 2:55 pm

Kenmoria wrote:
Isansland wrote:The real concern in this resolution is that nations are being forced to reduce their reliance on fossil fuels.

(OOC: As hasn’t been said, that was optional. There is no forceful requirement to comply. It also doesn’t say by how much, so reducing just one joule per decade would count. It’s one of the many ambiguities that led to Zone 71/Rovikstead wanting to repeal the resolution.)


I'm afraid it's not optional. After resolution took place, mining numbers lowered drastically.

User avatar
Ransium
Retired Moderator
 
Posts: 6788
Founded: Oct 17, 2006
Democratic Socialists

Postby Ransium » Wed Sep 26, 2018 3:11 pm

Isansland wrote:
Kenmoria wrote:(OOC: As hasn’t been said, that was optional. There is no forceful requirement to comply. It also doesn’t say by how much, so reducing just one joule per decade would count. It’s one of the many ambiguities that led to Zone 71/Rovikstead wanting to repeal the resolution.)


I'm afraid it's not optional. After resolution took place, mining numbers lowered drastically.


OOC:
Sorry to burst your bubble, but the stat effects of a resolution have jack to do with the actual text of the resolution. The stat change is wholly tied to the category of the resolution and nothing else.
Last edited by Ransium on Wed Sep 26, 2018 3:11 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Commended by SC 236,
WA Delegate of Forest from March 20th, 2007 to August 19, 2020.
Author of WA Resolutions: SC 221, SC 224, SC 233, SC 243, SC 265, GA 403, GA 439, GA 445,GA 463,GA 465,
Issues Editor since January 20th, 2017 with some down time.
Author of 27 issues. First editor of 44.
Moderator since November 10th 2017 with some down time.

User avatar
Kenmoria
GA Secretariat
 
Posts: 7914
Founded: Jul 03, 2017
Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Kenmoria » Wed Sep 26, 2018 3:11 pm

Isansland wrote:
Kenmoria wrote:(OOC: As hasn’t been said, that was optional. There is no forceful requirement to comply. It also doesn’t say by how much, so reducing just one joule per decade would count. It’s one of the many ambiguities that led to Zone 71/Rovikstead wanting to repeal the resolution.)


I'm afraid it's not optional. After resolution took place, mining numbers lowered drastically.

(OOC: It isn’t optional, that’s not what the language means. Your mining stat hasn’t lowered, and, besides, most nations ignore NS stats anyway.)
Last edited by Kenmoria on Wed Sep 26, 2018 3:11 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Hello! I’m a GAer and NS Roleplayer from the United Kingdom.
My pronouns are he/him.
Any posts that I make as GenSec will be clearly marked as such and OOC. Conversely, my IC ambassador in the General Assembly is Ambassador Fortier. I’m always happy to discuss ideas about proposals, particularly if grammar or wording are in issue. I am also Executive Deputy Minister for the WA Ministry of TNP.
Kenmoria is an illiberal yet democratic nation pursuing the goals of communism in a semi-effective fashion. It has a very broad diplomatic presence despite being economically developing, mainly to seek help in recovering from the effect of a recent civil war. Read the factbook here for more information; perhaps, I will eventually finish it.

User avatar
Lord Dominator
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 8900
Founded: Dec 22, 2016
Right-wing Utopia

Postby Lord Dominator » Fri Sep 28, 2018 8:34 pm

While this hasn't fallen off the first page, I would appreciate any further input, as I will otherwise be submitting soonish.

User avatar
Kenmoria
GA Secretariat
 
Posts: 7914
Founded: Jul 03, 2017
Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Kenmoria » Sat Sep 29, 2018 1:24 am

“In the applauding clause, ‘it’s’ should be ‘its’. You are also missing a ‘be’ after ‘may’ in the first subclause of the concerned clause. Finally, there seems to be some strange indentation between your concerned and saddened clauses.”
Hello! I’m a GAer and NS Roleplayer from the United Kingdom.
My pronouns are he/him.
Any posts that I make as GenSec will be clearly marked as such and OOC. Conversely, my IC ambassador in the General Assembly is Ambassador Fortier. I’m always happy to discuss ideas about proposals, particularly if grammar or wording are in issue. I am also Executive Deputy Minister for the WA Ministry of TNP.
Kenmoria is an illiberal yet democratic nation pursuing the goals of communism in a semi-effective fashion. It has a very broad diplomatic presence despite being economically developing, mainly to seek help in recovering from the effect of a recent civil war. Read the factbook here for more information; perhaps, I will eventually finish it.

User avatar
Lord Dominator
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 8900
Founded: Dec 22, 2016
Right-wing Utopia

Postby Lord Dominator » Sat Sep 29, 2018 10:51 am

Kenmoria wrote:“In the applauding clause, ‘it’s’ should be ‘its’. You are also missing a ‘be’ after ‘may’ in the first subclause of the concerned clause. Finally, there seems to be some strange indentation between your concerned and saddened clauses.”

"Ah, thank you. I believe I've fixed those flaws."

User avatar
Ransium
Retired Moderator
 
Posts: 6788
Founded: Oct 17, 2006
Democratic Socialists

Postby Ransium » Sat Sep 29, 2018 1:20 pm

Again, I feel this lacks some overarching logic making it seem like several nitpicking flaws rather than having some overarching logic. I would go into much more depth about the logic of why micromanaging might not be the greatest and the possible perverse consequences of it.

Commended by SC 236,
WA Delegate of Forest from March 20th, 2007 to August 19, 2020.
Author of WA Resolutions: SC 221, SC 224, SC 233, SC 243, SC 265, GA 403, GA 439, GA 445,GA 463,GA 465,
Issues Editor since January 20th, 2017 with some down time.
Author of 27 issues. First editor of 44.
Moderator since November 10th 2017 with some down time.

User avatar
Lord Dominator
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 8900
Founded: Dec 22, 2016
Right-wing Utopia

Postby Lord Dominator » Sat Sep 29, 2018 8:43 pm

Edits were made, no idea if they are decent edits.

User avatar
Kenmoria
GA Secretariat
 
Posts: 7914
Founded: Jul 03, 2017
Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Kenmoria » Sun Sep 30, 2018 3:44 am

“More nitpicking: ‘is’ should be ‘are’ in the incensed clause, and there should be a full stop at the end of the repeals clause.”
Hello! I’m a GAer and NS Roleplayer from the United Kingdom.
My pronouns are he/him.
Any posts that I make as GenSec will be clearly marked as such and OOC. Conversely, my IC ambassador in the General Assembly is Ambassador Fortier. I’m always happy to discuss ideas about proposals, particularly if grammar or wording are in issue. I am also Executive Deputy Minister for the WA Ministry of TNP.
Kenmoria is an illiberal yet democratic nation pursuing the goals of communism in a semi-effective fashion. It has a very broad diplomatic presence despite being economically developing, mainly to seek help in recovering from the effect of a recent civil war. Read the factbook here for more information; perhaps, I will eventually finish it.

User avatar
Lord Dominator
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 8900
Founded: Dec 22, 2016
Right-wing Utopia

Postby Lord Dominator » Sun Sep 30, 2018 11:11 am

Kenmoria wrote:“More nitpicking: ‘is’ should be ‘are’ in the incensed clause, and there should be a full stop at the end of the repeals clause.”

Hey! Nitpicking is an important part of this

User avatar
Kenmoria
GA Secretariat
 
Posts: 7914
Founded: Jul 03, 2017
Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Kenmoria » Sun Sep 30, 2018 12:42 pm

“Once more for luck: there should be a comma at the end of the first subclause of the concerned clause, ‘waste’ should be ‘wastes’ in the believing clause, and ‘include’ should be ‘includes’ in the third subclause of that clause.”
Hello! I’m a GAer and NS Roleplayer from the United Kingdom.
My pronouns are he/him.
Any posts that I make as GenSec will be clearly marked as such and OOC. Conversely, my IC ambassador in the General Assembly is Ambassador Fortier. I’m always happy to discuss ideas about proposals, particularly if grammar or wording are in issue. I am also Executive Deputy Minister for the WA Ministry of TNP.
Kenmoria is an illiberal yet democratic nation pursuing the goals of communism in a semi-effective fashion. It has a very broad diplomatic presence despite being economically developing, mainly to seek help in recovering from the effect of a recent civil war. Read the factbook here for more information; perhaps, I will eventually finish it.

User avatar
Lord Dominator
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 8900
Founded: Dec 22, 2016
Right-wing Utopia

Postby Lord Dominator » Sun Sep 30, 2018 12:50 pm

"Aha, fixed. Thank you."

User avatar
Visionary Union
Envoy
 
Posts: 252
Founded: Sep 16, 2018
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Visionary Union » Mon Oct 01, 2018 2:39 am

In the clause where you mentioned micro-managing, you also wrote that the resolution in question was vague. So which one it is- Vague or micro managing? (OOC: Please pardon me if it makes no sense- combat soldiers don't get much sleep)

Next

Advertisement

Remove ads

Return to WA Archives

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users

Advertisement

Remove ads