[DEFEATED] Condemn Lord Dominator

[Lord Dominator]

>Everyone is condemning the guy who claimed the WA meant you had no sovereignty

Ha ha!

JUSTICE!

You assume for some reason I'm not encouraging people to vote for something that gives me what is essentially a badge of honor.

[United Massachusetts]

>Everyone is condemning the guy who claimed the WA meant you had no sovereignty

Ha ha!

JUSTICE!

You assume for some reason I'm not encouraging people to vote for something that gives me what is essentially a badge of honor.

^ I'm campaigning pretty heavily for this, and am not to well liked by the NatSovs, last I checked.

[Imperium Anglorum]

If LD wants it, I will help give him/her it.

[Jocospor]

>Everyone is condemning the guy who claimed the WA meant you had no sovereignty

Ha ha!

JUSTICE!

You assume for some reason I'm not encouraging people to vote for something that gives me what is essentially a badge of honor.

And you assume that concerns us.

[Caracasus]

This is a very silly proposal. Having said that if LD wants it on record via condemnation that they managed to wind up some fascists to the point they spent cash on trying to have a go at them, that is alright by me.

[Lord Dominator]

You assume for some reason I'm not encouraging people to vote for something that gives me what is essentially a badge of honor.

And you assume that concerns us.

I don't care if it does, I was addressing something of an inaccuracy in Lotharia's post

[Ramaeus]

Should this pass, I'll be making an insta-repeal attempt.

That said, decent joke proposal. I'll give you a 7.5/10.

[Democratic Empire of Romania]

Plain dumb proposal. Against.

[Caracasus]

I am kind of wondering why the author did not condemn the nation that started the trend of using liberations against fascist regions (and to my knowledge authored two of them) but instead went for LD.

Can't be tit for tat, obviously. They keep telling us how overjoyed and happy they are with being liberated.

[Ru-]

We, quite frankly, do not care what the target considers a condemnation to be. The simple matter is that it is well deserved, and the resolution makes a fully detailed and compelling argument as to why. full support.

^ I'm campaigning pretty heavily for this, and am not to well liked by the NatSovs, last I checked.

ooc: hey now, *i* like you

[Democratic Empire of Romania]

We, quite frankly, do not care what the target considers a condemnation to be. The simple matter is that it is well deserved, and the resolution makes a fully detailed and compelling argument as to why. full support.

^ I'm campaigning pretty heavily for this, and am not to well liked by the NatSovs, last I checked.

ooc: hey now, *i* like you

No it's not good. It is filled with suppossed allegations LD used WA to help raiders. Jocospor did that just cuz' LD liberated his region and CCD deserved that, but not due to fascism. Due to other worse stuff.

[Jocospor]

We, quite frankly, do not care what the target considers a condemnation to be. The simple matter is that it is well deserved, and the resolution makes a fully detailed and compelling argument as to why. full support.



ooc: hey now, *i* like you

No it's not good. It is filled with suppossed allegations LD used WA to help raiders. Jocospor did that just cuz' LD liberated his region and CCD deserved that, but not due to fascism. Due to other worse stuff.

Not quite true, but a gallant attempt nonetheless.

[Caracasus]

I just don't know if we should have a condemnation just because someone got upset when the security council made them go sit on the naughty step. Seems a bit silly to me.

[Jocospor]

I just don't know if we should have a condemnation just because someone got upset when the security council made them go sit on the naughty step. Seems a bit silly to me.

*the Delegate's Office giggles* Oh dear, you've missed the point too. It's got absolutely nothing to do with that. But, please, it's too our advantage if you believe it does, so, by all means...!

[Caracasus]

I just don't know if we should have a condemnation just because someone got upset when the security council made them go sit on the naughty step. Seems a bit silly to me.

*the Delegate's Office giggles* Oh dear, you've missed the point too. It's got absolutely nothing to do with that. But, please, it's too our advantage if you believe it does, so, by all means...!

It seems broadly straightforward. You are annoyed at LD for the liberation, by doing this your region gets to cling on to the limelight that it is fast slipping out of and if this passes you get a badge. Then your llama mate can draft another commendation in the hopes that with a tiny bit of evidence that you at least have done something it will pass.

This resolution will very probably pass. It is daft enough that folks are supporting it for shits and giggles. Still, as I said that attention is shifting. The Sec Council likes a bit of drama, especially if there are a few jokes in with it. It is growing a bit stale though, and unless your lot plan on keeping up the expensive recruitment campaigns your region is probably going to start withering soonish.

[Jocospor]

*the Delegate's Office giggles* Oh dear, you've missed the point too. It's got absolutely nothing to do with that. But, please, it's too our advantage if you believe it does, so, by all means...!

It seems broadly straightforward. You are annoyed at LD for the liberation, by doing this your region gets to cling on to the limelight that it is fast slipping out of and if this passes you get a badge. Then your llama mate can draft another commendation in the hopes that with a tiny bit of evidence that you at least have done something it will pass.

This resolution will very probably pass. It is daft enough that folks are supporting it for shits and giggles. Still, as I said that attention is shifting. The Sec Council likes a bit of drama, especially if there are a few jokes in with it. It is growing a bit stale though, and unless your lot plan on keeping up the expensive recruitment campaigns your region is probably going to start withering soonish.

Our thanks for your opinions. Heavy emphasis on your.

You've still got the wrong of it, we're sorry to say. Though, honestly, we're so used to having words put in our mouth now that we're not too fussed what you believe or what you want to tell people. All you need to know, though, is that, well, as we said, you've got the wrong of it. *the Delegate's Office exchanges winks*

[Caracasus]

It seems broadly straightforward. You are annoyed at LD for the liberation, by doing this your region gets to cling on to the limelight that it is fast slipping out of and if this passes you get a badge. Then your llama mate can draft another commendation in the hopes that with a tiny bit of evidence that you at least have done something it will pass.

This resolution will very probably pass. It is daft enough that folks are supporting it for shits and giggles. Still, as I said that attention is shifting. The Sec Council likes a bit of drama, especially if there are a few jokes in with it. It is growing a bit stale though, and unless your lot plan on keeping up the expensive recruitment campaigns your region is probably going to start withering soonish.

Our thanks for your opinions. Heavy emphasis on your.

You've still got the wrong of it, we're sorry to say. Though, honestly, we're so used to having words put in our mouth now that we're not too fussed what you believe or what you want to tell people. All you need to know, though, is that, well, as we said, you've got the wrong of it. *the Delegate's Office exchanges winks*

Honestly, it's the only way I could see of getting anything salvageable out of this mess if I were in your shoes. It's going to be on record that you were upset enough over LD's liberation that you wrote and campaigned for one of the worst resolutions I've seen reach quorum. Still, I guess you have a plan - which I imagine will look suspiciously like "that thing that happened that was kind of bad for us is actually good for us and we planned it all along!"

Interesting use of "highly controversial" to describe either resolution mentioned in this condemnation. An easy mistake to make I know, but don't assume what's on the drafting and debate thread is a real reflection of how the rest of the voters feel. Both Liberate KR and Liberate CCD glided easily through on comfortable margins, and it was really evident from the first couple of hours where the votes were going to go. As a whole, these offensive liberations are pretty well received. It's only a hard core of people who mistakenly believe that such resolutions are an infringement of freedom of expression, a few folks who don't like using liberations offensively and a few fascists who don't like getting picked on that find it controversial.

[Kuriko]

So glad to see that everyone is willing to give an undeserving fascist an SC badge to condemn someone for one reason. I have used Delegates Prerogative to vote against this proposal, as I'm against badges of honor. If the other big delegates wish to give a fascist a badge as an author over a petty reason, fine. But I won't. Maybe if the author was someone else I could've done it, but y'all are really starting to make the rumor the SC is broken become true.

[Jocospor]

Our thanks for your opinions. Heavy emphasis on your.

You've still got the wrong of it, we're sorry to say. Though, honestly, we're so used to having words put in our mouth now that we're not too fussed what you believe or what you want to tell people. All you need to know, though, is that, well, as we said, you've got the wrong of it. *the Delegate's Office exchanges winks*

Honestly, it's the only way I could see of getting anything salvageable out of this mess if I were in your shoes. It's going to be on record that you were upset enough over LD's liberation that you wrote and campaigned for one of the worst resolutions I've seen reach quorum. Still, I guess you have a plan - which I imagine will look suspiciously like "that thing that happened that was kind of bad for us is actually good for us and we planned it all along!"

Interesting use of "highly controversial" to describe either resolution mentioned in this condemnation. An easy mistake to make I know, but don't assume what's on the drafting and debate thread is a real reflection of how the rest of the voters feel. Both Liberate KR and Liberate CCD glided easily through on comfortable margins, and it was really evident from the first couple of hours where the votes were going to go. As a whole, these offensive liberations are pretty well received. It's only a hard core of people who mistakenly believe that such resolutions are an infringement of freedom of expression, a few folks who don't like using liberations offensively and a few fascists who don't like getting picked on that find it controversial.

Look, to be brief about it, what you can or can't see is irrelevant to us. We know what we can see, and that's all we want to see. And "highly controversial" and "popular" are not mutually exclusive, either.

[Sefy the Great]

Commend, Condemn. what does it matter? we've all clarified that they're just badges. so, I'll take a stranger approach.
Lord Dominator, do you want me to be for or against? not much i can do, but i might as well ask you.

[Caracasus]

Honestly, it's the only way I could see of getting anything salvageable out of this mess if I were in your shoes. It's going to be on record that you were upset enough over LD's liberation that you wrote and campaigned for one of the worst resolutions I've seen reach quorum. Still, I guess you have a plan - which I imagine will look suspiciously like "that thing that happened that was kind of bad for us is actually good for us and we planned it all along!"

Interesting use of "highly controversial" to describe either resolution mentioned in this condemnation. An easy mistake to make I know, but don't assume what's on the drafting and debate thread is a real reflection of how the rest of the voters feel. Both Liberate KR and Liberate CCD glided easily through on comfortable margins, and it was really evident from the first couple of hours where the votes were going to go. As a whole, these offensive liberations are pretty well received. It's only a hard core of people who mistakenly believe that such resolutions are an infringement of freedom of expression, a few folks who don't like using liberations offensively and a few fascists who don't like getting picked on that find it controversial.

Look, to be brief about it, what you can or can't see is irrelevant to us. We know what we can see, and that's all we want to see. And "highly controversial" and "popular" are not mutually exclusive, either.

Highly contraversial in the context of a broadly democratic body would be something that the body itself is divided on. I could call a 55% - 45% split contraversial, maybe. A 51/49 split would certainly be contraversial. This though? Nah.

At best you could say some controversy.

[Grahnol]

I am voting against this dumb proposal, the reasons the proposal listed are stupid reasons and are not worthy of a condemnation at all. L.D has done nothing worthy of a condemnation at all and condemning him for these stupid reasons is just making me lose hope in the SC.

[Arasi Luvasa]

What was Joccospor's rallying telegram this time? I have him blocked but I kinda wanna know now.

[Jocospor]

What was Joccospor's rallying telegram this time? I have him blocked but I kinda wanna know now.

Oh, pish, you've missed the free champagne now!

[The Sherpa Empire]

It seems broadly straightforward. You are annoyed at LD for the liberation, by doing this your region gets to cling on to the limelight that it is fast slipping out of and if this passes you get a badge. Then your llama mate can draft another commendation in the hopes that with a tiny bit of evidence that you at least have done something it will pass.

This resolution will very probably pass. It is daft enough that folks are supporting it for shits and giggles. Still, as I said that attention is shifting. The Sec Council likes a bit of drama, especially if there are a few jokes in with it. It is growing a bit stale though, and unless your lot plan on keeping up the expensive recruitment campaigns your region is probably going to start withering soonish.

Our thanks for your opinions. Heavy emphasis on your.

You've still got the wrong of it, we're sorry to say. Though, honestly, we're so used to having words put in our mouth now that we're not too fussed what you believe or what you want to tell people. All you need to know, though, is that, well, as we said, you've got the wrong of it. *the Delegate's Office exchanges winks*

Dude, you're trying way too hard and it's just not convincing.