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PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 3:04 pm
by Separatist Peoples
OOC: Bump

PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2019 9:40 pm
by Lord Dominator
Separatist Peoples wrote:OOC: Bump

OOC: Well, I don't have any other concerns, and I doubt anyone new is going to speak up at this point... :p

PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 5:42 am
by Kranostav
Separatist Peoples wrote:OOC: Bump

I'll throw support at this

PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 9:05 am
by Kenmoria
“This looks very good; I have no objections to the current draft.”

PostPosted: Sat Apr 06, 2019 4:34 pm
by Separatist Peoples
OOC: For realz this time, I'm gonna submit. Last call. For realz. I swear.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 06, 2019 4:36 pm
by Marxist Germany
OOC;I thought "comity" was a typo, then I looked it up, and it turns out I was wrong

PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2019 6:23 pm
by Araraukar
Marxist Germany wrote:OOC;I thought "comity" was a typo, then I looked it up, and it turns out I was wrong

OOC: I could've sworn there was something about that in the OP originally, or in one of SP's or IA's posts on the first page, but yeah, quite a few people will likely at first glance think it's a typo. Reading the FAQ helps, but many people don't even read the resolution text... :meh:

IC: "Just one question for Mr. Bell; can a nation still require the person filing for bankrupcy to also file in that nation even if they own the minority of their property there? Or do all nations have to sort things out in one go? I'm asking, because there are nations in the WA that may have hostilities or even an active state of war between them, and might not trust in having their representative - or someone from their nation in any case - being dealt with fairly in their enemy nation."

PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2019 6:45 pm
by Separatist Peoples
Araraukar wrote:
Marxist Germany wrote:OOC;I thought "comity" was a typo, then I looked it up, and it turns out I was wrong

OOC: I could've sworn there was something about that in the OP originally, or in one of SP's or IA's posts on the first page, but yeah, quite a few people will likely at first glance think it's a typo. Reading the FAQ helps, but many people don't even read the resolution text... :meh:

IC: "Just one question for Mr. Bell; can a nation still require the person filing for bankrupcy to also file in that nation even if they own the minority of their property there? Or do all nations have to sort things out in one go? I'm asking, because there are nations in the WA that may have hostilities or even an active state of war between them, and might not trust in having their representative - or someone from their nation in any case - being dealt with fairly in their enemy nation."

"I suppose so, ambassador, but it strikes me that doing so would disincentive keeping assets in your jurisdiction, since it increases the risk of not reaching collateral or assets and increases overhead. I dont see how a nation would find that particularly desirable."

PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2019 11:03 pm
by Lusane
Support.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 12:08 am
by Merni
Separatist Peoples wrote:Abhorring the lack of international comity requirements for insolvent entities in a world increasingly reliant in globalized commerce;

Should that be "on"? (emphasis mine)

PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2019 1:58 pm
by Separatist Peoples
OOC: Updated

PostPosted: Wed Oct 23, 2019 9:05 am
by Separatist Peoples
OOC: del bumpo. Now that I have finished my academic tour de force, I can look back at this.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 23, 2019 9:35 am
by Imperium Anglorum
Almost read that as Tour de France. But full support nevertheless.

Also, can I have permission to use your definition of bankruptcy?

PostPosted: Sun Dec 15, 2019 6:38 am
by Separatist Peoples
Imperium Anglorum wrote:Almost read that as Tour de France. But full support nevertheless.

Also, can I have permission to use your definition of bankruptcy?

Ooc: I missed this, but yes.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 3:21 pm
by Separatist Peoples
bump

PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 4:32 pm
by The New Sicilian State
OOC: I had to look twice at "Comity", thank you for expanding my vocabulary today Sep. :p

"The notion that I will stop receiving second-hand emails detailing the juggling of assets and lawsuits between states from the N. D. S. S. State Department is refreshing to say the least. Support."

Re: [DRAFT] International Bankruptcy Comity

PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 6:01 pm
by Yohannes


"Ambassador Bell, my apologies if what I'm about to say sounds a bit silly, I don't have a lot of knowledge about Bankruptcy Comity -- feel free to laugh at me."

"In 1883, the Supreme Court of a fairly well-known federation of fifty states in Canada Southern Ry Co v Gebhard said that 'every person who deals with a foreign corporation implicitly subjects himself to such laws of the foreign government, affecting the powers and obligations of the corporation with which he voluntarily contracts, as the known and established policy of that government authorises.'"

"What is your opinion on that old Supreme Court decision in 1883? And, in your opinion, do international insolvencies pose special problems for the bankruptcy regimes of many nations out there?"

PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 6:14 pm
by Separatist Peoples
Yohannes wrote:

"Ambassador Bell, my apologies if what I'm about to say sounds a bit silly, I don't have a lot of knowledge about Bankruptcy Comity -- feel free to laugh at me."

"In 1883, the Supreme Court of a fairly well-known federation of fifty states in Canada Southern Ry Co v Gebhard said that 'every person who deals with a foreign corporation implicitly subjects himself to such laws of the foreign government, affecting the powers and obligations of the corporation with which he voluntarily contracts, as the known and established policy of that government authorises.'"

"What is your opinion on that old Supreme Court decision in 1883? And, in your opinion, do international insolvencies pose special problems for the bankruptcy regimes of many nations out there?"


"Well, ambassador, initially, if you have assets under the jurisdiction of a foreign government, you have already availed yourself of that foreign jurisdiction. For another, the point of offering comity is to recognize that, while the state offering comity may itself have jurisdiction for bankruptcy matters, it is nonetheless more efficient and more simple to apply foreign law where the majority of assets are subject to the foreign jurisdiction already. Nations may decide not to apply comity. However, it strikes me as overall more burdensome to do so for most assets, and regardless of whether it is burdensome, there is value in enforcing a stay on creditors to provide time for an adequate defense under a new jurisdiction."

PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 3:21 pm
by Aprenencia
"Comity" should be "committee" in your proposal.

PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 3:25 pm
by The New Nordic Union
Aprenencia wrote:"Comity" should be "committee" in your proposal.


'It really shouldn't.' Katrin grabs the dictionary always lying nearby and slaps it on the Aprenencian ambassador's desk.

OOC Edit: If you read the OP FAQ carefully, you'll find the concept of comity explained.

Re: International Bankruptcy Comity

PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 3:57 pm
by Yohannes
Separatist Peoples wrote:However, it strikes me as overall more burdensome to do so for most assets, and regardless of whether it is burdensome, there is value in enforcing a stay on creditors to provide time for an adequate defense under a new jurisdiction."


“Thank you so much for your patience. Your Excellency, I will be voting for this.”

Aprenencia wrote:"Comity" should be "committee" in your proposal.


Politely, the Yohannesian ambassador smiled and said quietly, “Ambassador, thank you for brightening up my day.”

The New Nordic Union wrote:'It really shouldn't.' Katrin grabs the dictionary always lying nearby and slaps it on the Aprenencian ambassador's desk.


She chuckled softly.

PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 4:47 pm
by Separatist Peoples
Aprenencia wrote:"Comity" should be "committee" in your proposal.


"You have confused committee, pronounced kəˈmidē, which is a group appointed with a specific function, and comity, or kämədē, which is a considerate and voluntary application of foreign law."

PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 6:18 am
by The New Sicilian State
Separatist Peoples wrote:
Aprenencia wrote:"Comity" should be "committee" in your proposal.


"You have confused committee, pronounced kəˈmidē, which is a group appointed with a specific function, and comity, or kämədē, which is a considerate and voluntary application of foreign law."


“That sounds a bit like a fancified pronunciation of ‘comedy’... Is this funny to you, ambassador?”

PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 6:46 am
by Imperium Anglorum

PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2020 9:09 am
by Separatist Peoples
Ooc: when things have gotten less frenetic, I will look at submission. As it is, I wont compete for attention with the ongoing abortion debate.