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The Security Council,

Reaffirming its dedication to the dissemination of inter-regional peace and goodwill, and its right to condemn those who act consistently and unapologetically against this mission,

Rejecting the spurious notion that a region has some kind of perverse right to cause unjustified damage to others through acts of random aggression, and the dangerous ideal that selfish regional interests should take precedence over protecting inter-regional peace and doing what is right,

Asserting that the Land of Kings and Emperors ("the LKE") has historically acted as a belligerent state on the world stage, yet has so far escaped consequences through corrupting inter-regional politics, propagation of blatant lies, and boring everyone to death with catastrophically uninteresting text,

Enumerating the numerous acts of senseless harm the LKE has callously propagated without remorse, which includes:

1. Random invasion and acts of destruction against too many regions to comprehensively list, but which include Belgium, The True Rebirth, Middle Earth, Fidelia, Soviet Union, Argartha, Zhe Intranational Communist, Hogwarts, Scotland, The Soviet Bloc, Slavya, Ixnay, Canada, the Coalition of Catholic States, Eastern Europe, Region Inc, Equestria, Atheist Empire, Meridon, South Pacific, The Union, Liberty Alliance, Forest, Belgium again, Philippines, Asia, Latinoamerica, The International Kingdom, The Union of Red Nations, Westphalia, United Islands, and Iran.
2. Invasion, occupation, and eventual refounding of Slavia, which during this process was subjected to aggressive intimidation by LKE officials, in a common trend where the LKE has repeatedly used the threat of invasion to compel regions to act against their own interests.
3. Close collaboration with a number of disreputable regions whose only purpose for being is to invade and tear down others, and who have been widely ostracised for totally unacceptable conduct and severe violations of inter-regional expectations, examples including the notorious The Black Riders and DEN.
4. Continued acts of aggression against the Founderless Regions Alliance, a defensive organisation that sought to uphold inter-regional peace, including a series of minor tangential invasions which the LKE would use to dubiously claim some kind of victory in its ridiculous war.
5. Invasion of The Rejected Realms ("TRR") on a massive scale, during which the Emperor of the LKE would become Delegate of TRR, a fact they would arrogantly lord over the world for years to come.
6. Attempted manipulation of the region Osiris when it was under occupation by a rogue state, by dishonestly offering support to both sides and needlessly prolonging the conflict for its own benefit, which included leveraging its position to force Osiris to withdraw from the Pan-Sinker Security Pact and to sever all contact with the Founderless Regions Alliance, in what amounted to a blatant display of extortion.
7. Military support for the tyrannical Khanate government in its coup and occupation of Lazarus, and being noticeably absent from a coalition of peacekeepers from most prominent regions who sought to restore peace, further demonstrating the LKE's consistent agenda of destabilising regions and their populations.
8. Deliberate obstruction of honest efforts to rebuild the struggling community of The New Inquisition, lead by the criminally inclined Emperor of the LKE, who would personally drive many good leaders from the region and seal its decline, ultimately prefering to betray a community they had helped create instead of giving up control.
9. Forced assimilation of regions into the lethargic empire and/or personal trophy collection of the LKE, which include Ilum, Polis, Munster, The Imperial Legion, and Vienna.
10. Attempted invasion of the noble and tenacious region of Moldavia no less than four times, all of which were rebuked, much to the embarrassment of the LKE's surprisingly incompetent military forces.
11. Attempted blackmail of innocent regions through the Green-Black Concordat, where such regions could either contribute militarily to the LKE's campaigns against their interests or be considered valid targets themselves.
12. Engagement of recruitment practices that are considered against inter-regional expectations, and subsequently blaming these actions on a scapegoated individual when ultimately caught and punished.
13. Various other assorted affronts, such as having a garbage motto that is obnoxiously written everywhere in entirely capital letters, and publishing documents with broken amateurish formatting.

Denouncing the LKE for the above described extensive history of unkind, aggressive, destructive, and occasionally laughable conduct,

Hereby condemns the Land of Kings and Emperors.

Made some minor last minute edits then submitted this.

I think it's deserved. However, half of it reads like you're actually shocked, the other half like you're ridiculing them and trying to insult them. I'd choose either to act shocked or insulting/ridiculing them, not both.

*scowls* I don't like the LKE, and yes they've done stuff. But I stick by my stance that condemnations are nothing more than badges of honor to regions like theirs, and hold to my against stance on that basis.

Its pretty well written, and I would support it. However, I agree with Armaros here and add that there will be multiple regions that will decide to vote against this resolution due to the snarky language. This is a good test to see if the world can stand up to its greatest power block.

Kuriko wrote:*scowls* I don't like the LKE, and yes they've done stuff. But I stick by my stance that condemnations are nothing more than badges of honor to regions like theirs, and hold to my against stance on that basis.

And you don't think the LKE has done enough to deserve that badge? I'd say, if you add it all up, they'd deserve that badge.

Is it necessary to list thirty regions they invaded

Kuriko wrote:*scowls* I don't like the LKE, and yes they've done stuff. But I stick by my stance that condemnations are nothing more than badges of honor to regions like theirs, and hold to my against stance on that basis.

They don't want it, so it's not a badge to them. They like to pretend they aren't the bad guys

Kuriko wrote:*scowls* I don't like the LKE, and yes they've done stuff. But I stick by my stance that condemnations are nothing more than badges of honor to regions like theirs, and hold to my against stance on that basis.

Last time this was proposed, LKE freaked the fuck out because they didn't want it. OnderKelkia basically shit his pants pulling strings trying to kill it.

Full support for this proposal.

Cosmopolitan borovan wrote:Is it necessary to list thirty regions they invaded

There are 35 listed -- but 3 of them are twice because why not, so I guess you could say it's 32.

Consular wrote:

Kuriko wrote:*scowls* I don't like the LKE, and yes they've done stuff. But I stick by my stance that condemnations are nothing more than badges of honor to regions like theirs, and hold to my against stance on that basis.

They don't want it, so it's not a badge to them. They like to pretend they aren't the bad guys

Then if that stays the case, ill give grudging support. I see some factual innacuracies that ill point out when I get out of work at three

Careful, Cassius. They're going to call you a Francoist Defender - you and everyone else who votes for this.

I eagerly await my labeling.

Alright, read back through. In 1 you have The New Inquisition as being invaded by the LKE, yet they never were. TNI and LKE have pretty much always been allies as far as I know, and TNI was ruled by members of the LKE ruling family including Onderkelkia and NES. In 5 you have the LKE invading TRR, yet that's not true at all. Onderkelkia was the ruler of TNI at that point in time, and it was under the TNI banner that they claimed victory in TRR which they proudly proclaim in the TNI WFE. Also, I know I'm gonna hate asking this, but why lump TBH in with TBR and DEN? As far as I know, TBH isn't nearly on the same level of horrible as the other two orgs are.

Kuriko wrote:Alright, read back through. In 1 you have The New Inquisition as being invaded by the LKE, yet they never were. TNI and LKE have pretty much always been allies as far as I know, and TNI was ruled by members of the LKE ruling family including Onderkelkia and NES.

TNI was a colony of the LKE in 2006-2007. Natives who disagreed with Onder also got kicked out by Onder and friends when they locked TNI when the founder CTEd. We usually refer to that kind of thing as an invasion.

Kuriko wrote: Also, I know I'm gonna hate asking this, but why lump TBH in with TBR and DEN? As far as I know, TBH isn't nearly on the same level of horrible as the other two orgs are.

Well yeah. I know both TBR and DEN were condemned at some point but is it really necessarry to bring up two dead regions banned for rulebreaking? You can get your point through by listing other raiding regions who they hold embassies with too.

Consular wrote:

• Various other assorted affronts to the inter-regional community, such as having a garbage motto that its members feel the obnoxious need to post everywhere in entirely capital letters, and posting dispatches with broken amateurish coding.

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my dispatches had perfect coding.

Good luck Cass, hopefully you can tear down that wall.

I am in favor of this proposal. Their actions so far have indicated they deserve this.

That being said, you need quite a bit of work on this.

At this stage, I personally have not got the time to discuss the vast majority of the many inaccuracies and distortions in this proposal. Alas, the LKE and our ally TNI have faced multiple failed attempts to condemn us previously. This seems to be the latest in that long line of attacks from disgruntled foes.

However, the following segment is deeply dishonest and offensive:

Consular wrote:[*]Engagement of recruitment practices that are considered against inter-regional law, and subsequently blaming these actions on a scapegoated individual when ultimately caught and punished.

Bob Moran was not a "scapegoat", but the sole individual within the LKE who was aware of his non-rule-compliant activities. It is grossly unfair to claim that the LKE scapegoated Bob Moran by blaming him for deceiving the region in the same way as he deceived everyone else in the game. The LKE had no idea what he was doing prior to the announcement of his actions by the moderators. Nor did we have any means of reasonably detecting his actions.

Even if the LKE benefited from Bob Moran's actions, and you believe that it was accordingly appropriate for the moderators to reduce the LKE population as a result by imposing the three-month ban on regional recruiment back in 2015, it remains the case that the LKE had no knowledge of Bob Moran's actions and did nothing to suggest he should act in that way. You cannot therefore claim that the LKE scapegoated Bob Moran for criticising him for actions that he performed for reasons unbeknownst to us without the knowledge of anyone else in the LKE. Bob Moran had freewill and is responsible for his own actions.

You bring discredit on yourself by attempting to use this incident for political purposes.

Xoriet wrote:

Kuriko wrote:Alright, read back through. In 1 you have The New Inquisition as being invaded by the LKE, yet they never were. TNI and LKE have pretty much always been allies as far as I know, and TNI was ruled by members of the LKE ruling family including Onderkelkia and NES.

TNI was a colony of the LKE in 2006-2007. Natives who disagreed with Onder also got kicked out by Onder and friends when they locked TNI when the founder CTEd. We usually refer to that kind of thing as an invasion.

Firstly, The New Inquisition voluntarily joined the LKE Empire in August 2006. The process was initiated by the founder of TNI, Viktoria Gryfynn, after she joined the LKE. TNI was then quite a small community. A month later, the LKE granted TNI its independence and it became an imperialist monarchy on equal terms. TNI's brief time in the LKE Empire in 2006 transformed TNI, beginning its monarchy and its practice of imperialism, but it was entirely voluntary.

Secondly, in September 2017, the founder of TNI removed an advertisement to join The Exalted Lands from TNI's World Factbook Entry and dismissed regional officers who had re-located to The Exalted Lands after putting the advertisement up. No residents were ejected. The founder later ejected a small number of silly-named nations newly created purely for the sake of antagonising me on TNI's RMB. The founder also appointed me as a regional officer. Subsequent to the events of September 2017, after the founder nation ceased to exist in early 2018, I took to action secure the region to prevent the inevitable invasion had I not done so. In doing so, I was supported by forces from the LKE, TNI's oldest ally. A single resident of The Exalted Lands (note one, not plural "Natives") who kept a puppet in TNI posted on the RMB to complain. I as the native leader of TNI, appointed by the founder, decided to remove them. Agree with it or not, that was an internal TNI decision. Since then, there have been two ejections, both of non-native units (one a former LKE soldier who refused an instruction to leave and one a sleeper puppet seeking to invade TNI). If it was not for the intervention by "Onder and friends" that you complain about, TNI would have genuinely faced defacement and destruction. We know as much because the real enemies of TNI have openly expressed their disappointment at its passwording. I am quite certain that is a fate that you would happily seek for TNI. Your concern for TNI is wholly disingenuous.

I would kindly remind you that I am as much a native of TNI as any other person still in the game, bar North East Somerset, can claim to be, having held citizenship there from 2007 until it closed down in 2016 and serving the region at the highest levels throughout that period, including as Crown Prince and Regent for 3 years. I would do nothing to compromise TNI's interests, not even on behalf of any of the regions I currently serve, including the LKE.

Interesting. I shall watch this with mild interest, and see what comes of it.

Also, pretty sure you're not supposed to link forum threads in proposals

Onderkelkia wrote:At this stage, I personally have not got the time to discuss the vast majority of the many inaccuracies and distortions in this proposal. Alas, the LKE and our ally TNI have faced multiple failed attempts to condemn us previously. This seems to be the latest in that long line of attacks from disgruntled foes.

Personally I'd have added to the proposal that you're a notorious userite subversive who can't keep your hands out of the Sinkers (all four of them) to save your life, but we can't all get what we want.

This defender francoist gives support.

You might think of putting in that Kelkia and the Emperor of the LKE banned the Prime Minister and several other high ranking officials for creating a splinter region called the Empire of Mare Nostrum and some laughable Francoist allegation I think.

Epired Unic wrote:You might think of putting in that Kelkia and the Emperor of the LKE banned the Prime Minister and several other high ranking officials for creating a splinter region called the Empire of Mare Nostrum and some laughable Francoist allegation I think.

That's an internal affair, Mr Puppet.

If you need anything, help, support, early voting, etc. just let me know, Consular.

Full Support.

An excellent first draft. Keep it up.

Any reason you’re going after LKE and not TNI?