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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 10:26 pm
by Lord Dominator
Flanderlion wrote:What is with the August bit? I thought it was a reference to the August Revolution and some NPO guys in the distant past made it into a meme, and the old guys now just fell for whatever fake reason was given to them and included it in SC resolutions. It's especially fitting in this one as it was where the NPO came to being, and Xoriet is NPO.

Regardless of origin (my search also indicates French revolution stuff), it's a bit tacky, inaccurate date-wise, and we have a prominent player going by the name August.

Edit: No way it's some old meme, it's been used about 7 times (as a non-date or name) according to my search, the first in 2013 and mostly in the last year or so.
Edit2: The GA records are similar, only been used 25 times in the GA, and about half of those are from one author.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 10:44 pm
by Flanderlion
Lord Dominator wrote:
Flanderlion wrote:What is with the August bit? I thought it was a reference to the August Revolution and some NPO guys in the distant past made it into a meme, and the old guys now just fell for whatever fake reason was given to them and included it in SC resolutions. It's especially fitting in this one as it was where the NPO came to being, and Xoriet is NPO.

Regardless of origin (my search also indicates French revolution stuff), it's a bit tacky, inaccurate date-wise, and we have a prominent player going by the name August.

Edit: No way it's some old meme, it's been used about 7 times (as a non-date or name) according to my search, the first in 2013 and mostly in the last year or so.
Edit2: The GA records are similar, only been used 25 times in the GA, and about half of those are from one author.

Searching through - there are 77 pages from the WA (you might be missing the archives, where the majority of the posts are as older resolutions are moved there). Says almost 2k matches - like, majority will be repeats but I doubt it's been used less than 50 times over the 12 years or so that the UN/WA has been around.

Like, it's from the GA I'm pretty sure, as it's been mentioned since 2009 when the forum switch occured (and SC was only created in 2009, a few months after commend/condemn was put in and the GA folks subsequently evicting them).

Edit: re August - like, he made his nation long after it started, and judging by his nation pop he CTEd for a good period of time over the years (like, his population should be more than double what it is)

PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 10:54 pm
by Lord Dominator
Flanderlion wrote:
Lord Dominator wrote:Regardless of origin (my search also indicates French revolution stuff), it's a bit tacky, inaccurate date-wise, and we have a prominent player going by the name August.

Edit: No way it's some old meme, it's been used about 7 times (as a non-date or name) according to my search, the first in 2013 and mostly in the last year or so.
Edit2: The GA records are similar, only been used 25 times in the GA, and about half of those are from one author.

Searching through - there are 77 pages from the WA (you might be missing the archives, where the majority of the posts are as older resolutions are moved there). Says almost 2k matches - like, majority will be repeats but I doubt it's been used less than 50 times over the 12 years or so that the UN/WA has been around.

Like, it's from the GA I'm pretty sure, as it's been mentioned since 2009 when the forum switch occured (and SC was only created in 2009, a few months after commend/condemn was put in and the GA folks subsequently evicting them).

I was going by usage in passed/repealed resolutions actually, of which the SC has the mentioned 25, NSUN has none, and GA has 25.
Edit: re August - like, he made his nation long after it started, and judging by his nation pop he CTEd for a good period of time over the years (like, his population should be more than double what it is)

I meant that we have an active player named August, it's a bit weird to use a phrase that's a play on that

Edit: Wow, this is a trivial debate. I feel a bit stupid here :oops:

PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 11:00 pm
by Consular
Flanderlion wrote:What is with the August bit? I thought it was a reference to the August Revolution and some NPO guys in the distant past made it into a meme, and the old guys now just fell for whatever fake reason was given to them and included it in SC resolutions. It's especially fitting in this one as it was where the NPO came to being, and Xoriet is NPO.

"August" has a dictionary meaning of "inspiring respect and admiration". I don't think its an NPO reference, not sure where you got that from.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 11:03 pm
by Flanderlion
Consular wrote:
Flanderlion wrote:What is with the August bit? I thought it was a reference to the August Revolution and some NPO guys in the distant past made it into a meme, and the old guys now just fell for whatever fake reason was given to them and included it in SC resolutions. It's especially fitting in this one as it was where the NPO came to being, and Xoriet is NPO.

"August" has a dictionary meaning of "inspiring respect and admiration". I don't think its an NPO reference, not sure where you got that from.

I got it from reading some forum stuff then tabbing over to this. Probs completely unrelated. Mystery somewhat solved, thanks.

PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 7:11 am
by Wrapper
Glad that’s cleared up. Back on topic, please.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 8:04 pm
by Escade
Kuriko wrote:
Escade wrote:Okies lovelies, thanks so much for comments and edits. I updated the current draft with the changes proposed.


Kuriko your suggestions and like reorganization was super helpful so added you as a co-author :)

I've gone over it once more to see if there are any issues and think it stands on its own know. I would love to move forward on this so if there are any final thoughts or ways to make this more epic, let me know :)

I'm honored, but I don't know how I feel having replaced Kozmix on that list. Can I ask why you replaced him with my name??


Koz helped edit the very original draft but most of the content has been added since then so I moved him with you since that seemed more accurate for how it's progressed.

Re: August it was because I thought this would be quicker lol :P I might as well have put "Dear December SC"
It was fun to learn the background story, Flanderlion :)

Anyways, excited about this!

PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2018 6:33 am
by Fauxia
You’re allowed to have multiple co-authors...

PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2018 8:15 am
by Kuriko
Fauxia wrote:You’re allowed to have multiple co-authors...

Only three Fauxia, which is the limit.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 4:08 pm
by Queen Yuno
I thought I already posted here but turns out I didn't
This is beautifully written

:bow: :clap:

PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 12:16 pm
by Cosmopolitan borovan
This was submitted by the author

PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 2:54 pm
by Kuriko
Cosmopolitan borovan wrote:This was submitted by the author

I'm actually kind of miffed as to why she left out the two co-authors, which if they made a contribution should be recognised for it. I don't really count myself as one, but I'm still miffed. Character limit maybe?

PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 2:56 pm
by Escade
Kuriko wrote:
Cosmopolitan borovan wrote:This was submitted by the author

I'm actually kind of miffed as to why she left out the two co-authors, which if they made a contribution should be recognised for it. I don't really count myself as one, but I'm still miffed. Character limit maybe?


There are three co-authors? Kuriko, Ramaeus, and Severisen? There wasn't a place for me to put that, but I'm assuming it will be part of it?

EDIT: Asked for help since apparently even with myself and friends looking at it, I made a mistake ;,; So sorry about that, hopefully can fix it? If not I'll pull it and resend.

EDIT: Resubmitted, hopefully third time is the charm <3

PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 10:07 pm
by Wrapper
Fauxia wrote:I would think “detag” is compliant. Pretty sure “tag” or “tag raid” has been used before.

I was hesitant to mark this legal because of "detag", but, as pointed out, several previous resolutions do use the phrase "tag raid". I'd call that a precedent.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 10:00 pm
by Lord Dominator
This is now at-vote

PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 10:32 pm
by Jocospor
OOC: The author of this proposal has revealed that she is in fact Xoriet's sister. Thus, this proposal now truly reads more like a self-commend, at least as far as the Confederation is concerned. We're sure, though, that other nations will see things our way.

Alternatively, if the author is not Xoriet's sister, she is a liar. Were that the case, could we really trust anything she has to say about Xoriet?

PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 10:40 pm
by Cosmopolitan borovan
If they were real sisters in real life, I'll be surprised but they don't have the same founding date

PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 10:42 pm
by Jocospor
Cosmopolitan borovan wrote:If they were real sisters in real life, I'll be surprised but they don't have the same founding date

OOC: You'll find evidence for our accusations here: https://i.imgur.com/qwqT22f.png

PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 10:46 pm
by Furry Things
Well, I haven't personally seen all the things Xoviet has done, Xoviet has been kind and helpful as long as I've been here. Definitely for.

As an aside, the statement "Helping organize the 60 nations needed to liberate Anne Frank from the fascist occupiers in December 2014" caught me off guard for a second.

Edit:
Jocospor wrote:
Cosmopolitan borovan wrote:If they were real sisters in real life, I'll be surprised but they don't have the same founding date

OOC: You'll find evidence for our accusations here: https://i.imgur.com/qwqT22f.png

Ah, good, a screenshot of a TG with absolutely no context.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 10:52 pm
by Cosmopolitan borovan
Jocospor wrote:
Cosmopolitan borovan wrote:If they were real sisters in real life, I'll be surprised but they don't have the same founding date

OOC: You'll find evidence for our accusations here: https://i.imgur.com/qwqT22f.png

Maybe she meant that in an endearing way?

PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 11:11 pm
by Lord Dominator
Escade meant that in the way of Gameplay families, where people pretend they are in a family. It's a very weird form of rp for the most part.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 11:11 pm
by ShrewLlamaLand
Lord Dominator wrote: It's a very weird form of rp for the most part.

I mean you definitely aren't wrong in saying that.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 11:12 pm
by Jocospor
Lord Dominator wrote:Escade meant that in the way of Gameplay families, where people pretend they are in a family. It's a very weird form of rp for the most part.

OOC: Can you state that to a biological certainty?

PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 11:14 pm
by Lord Dominator
ShrewLlamaLand wrote:
Lord Dominator wrote: It's a very weird form of rp for the most part.

I mean you definitely aren't wrong in saying that.

I am not, no. The other part is for regional subversion and political plotting, but for the most part they serve as rather odd forms of being friends with people.
Jocospor wrote:
Lord Dominator wrote:Escade meant that in the way of Gameplay families, where people pretend they are in a family. It's a very weird form of rp for the most part.

OOC: Can you state that to a biological certainty?

To 100% certainty for immediate & extended family, no.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 11:16 pm
by Jocospor
Furry Things wrote:Well, I haven't personally seen all the things Xoviet has done, Xoviet has been kind and helpful as long as I've been here. Definitely for.

As an aside, the statement "Helping organize the 60 nations needed to liberate Anne Frank from the fascist occupiers in December 2014" caught me off guard for a second.

Edit:
Jocospor wrote:OOC: You'll find evidence for our accusations here: https://i.imgur.com/qwqT22f.png

Ah, good, a screenshot of a TG with absolutely no context.


OOC: If more context is really required: https://imgur.com/EeiGo1N