[PASSED] Commend Xoriet

[Escade]

Escade meant that in the way of Gameplay families, where people pretend they are in a family. It's a very weird form of rp for the most part.

This ^

Also, don't appreciate the threadjack at all, particularly considering you seem to have a personal issue there.

[ShrewLlamaLand]

Also, don't appreciate the threadjack at all, particularly considering you seem to have a personal issue there.

Oh no, heaven forbid someone comment against your proposal.

[RiderSyl]

Well, I haven't personally seen all the things Xoviet has done, Xoviet has been kind and helpful as long as I've been here. Definitely for.

As an aside, the statement "Helping organize the 60 nations needed to liberate Anne Frank from the fascist occupiers in December 2014" caught me off guard for a second.

Edit:

Ah, good, a screenshot of a TG with absolutely no context.

OOC: If more context is really required: https://imgur.com/EeiGo1N

OOC: So you're accusing Xoriet of plotting a Self-Commend with a family member, just because she opposed your WA proposals? That's crossing a line, Jocospor.
As others have pointed out too, Escade and Xoriet aren't real-life sisters. I have trouble believing that you couldn't figure that out without the slightest bit of research.

[Ragnaria]

Pointless proposal, nation is clearly a part of an established coalition and will receive the commendation no matter the actions of minor players.

[Jocospor]

OOC: If more context is really required: https://imgur.com/EeiGo1N

OOC: So you're accusing Xoriet of plotting a Self-Commend with a family member, just because she opposed your WA proposals? That's crossing a line, Jocospor.
As others have pointed out too, Escade and Xoriet aren't real-life sisters. I have trouble believing that you couldn't figure that out without the slightest bit of research.

OOC: Well, if truth be told, the Confederation was against the commend before the whole sister thing came onto the scene. But hey, if truth be told, crossing lines is rather a speciality.

[RiderSyl]

Pointless proposal, nation is clearly a part of an established coalition and will receive the commendation no matter the actions of minor players.

What "established coalition" are they "clearly" a part of?

OOC: So you're accusing Xoriet of plotting a Self-Commend with a family member, just because she opposed your WA proposals? That's crossing a line, Jocospor.
As others have pointed out too, Escade and Xoriet aren't real-life sisters. I have trouble believing that you couldn't figure that out without the slightest bit of research.

OOC: Well, if truth be told, the Confederation was against the commend before the whole sister thing came onto the scene. But hey, if truth be told, crossing lines is rather a speciality.

OOC: Find a different specialty.

[Jar Wattinree]

Full support because Xoriet is an amazing and storied person and totally not because she made me her son because of something I said out of context.

[Jocospor]

Pointless proposal, nation is clearly a part of an established coalition and will receive the commendation no matter the actions of minor players.

What "established coalition" are they "clearly" a part of?

OOC: Well, if truth be told, the Confederation was against the commend before the whole sister thing came onto the scene. But hey, if truth be told, crossing lines is rather a speciality.

OOC: Find a different specialty.

Oh, bother, looks like we've crossed their line too! *the Delegate's Office shrugs, quickly returning to the game of darts at hand. The board is roughly outlined alike the borders of Xoriet*

[Catalyse]

Family needs to stick together, full support.

[Jakker]

OOC: If more context is really required: https://imgur.com/EeiGo1N

Additional context was not needed. Furthermore, I am ruling that posting a photo of you calling a player a "disgusting eyesore" on the forum is similar to you writing it out. Therefore, you are flaming. *** 1-day forum ban for Flaming ***. Please note that this ban applies to you the player and not just this nation.

[ShrewLlamaLand]

Pointless proposal, nation is clearly a part of an established coalition and will receive the commendation no matter the actions of minor players.

You're absolutely correct. I watched the proposal as it first went to vote - when close to a thousand votes get dropped "For" in the first few minutes, there's really no chance for individual nations or delegates of smaller regions to make a difference.

OOC: If more context is really required: https://imgur.com/EeiGo1N

Additional context was not needed. Furthermore, I am ruling that posting a photo of you calling a player a "disgusting eyesore" on the forum is similar to you writing it out. Therefore, you are flaming. *** 1-day forum ban for Flaming ***. Please note that this ban applies to you the player and not just this nation.

OOC: I'm sorry but that's absolutely ridiculous. A request for more context was clearly implied here:

OOC: You'll find evidence for our accusations here: https://i.imgur.com/qwqT22f.png

Ah, good, a screenshot of a TG with absolutely no context.

[RiderSyl]

Pointless proposal, nation is clearly a part of an established coalition and will receive the commendation no matter the actions of minor players.

You're absolutely correct. I watched the proposal as it first went to vote - when close to a thousand votes get dropped "For" in the first few minutes, there's really no chance for individual nations or delegates of smaller regions to make a difference.

Spare us the faux outrage. You're still just sour about the GCR delegates stacking against your old pro-fascist proposals. If they had stacked in favor of them, you wouldn't even care.

OOC: I'm sorry but that's absolutely ridiculous. A request for more context was clearly implied here:

Ah, good, a screenshot of a TG with absolutely no context.

That doesn't imply a request for more context.

[ShrewLlamaLand]

You're absolutely correct. I watched the proposal as it first went to vote - when close to a thousand votes get dropped "For" in the first few minutes, there's really no chance for individual nations or delegates of smaller regions to make a difference.

Spare us the faux outrage. You're still just sour about the GCR delegates stacking against your old pro-fascist proposals. If they had stacked in favor of them, you wouldn't even care.

It's just plain old outrage, nothing faux about it. The fact that a couple large delegates can effectively decide the outcome of an entire vote is absurd.

OOC: I'm sorry but that's absolutely ridiculous. A request for more context was clearly implied here:

That doesn't imply a request for more context.

OOC: It quite clearly states that Jocospor's original comment was lacking context, which I would logically interpret as a request to provide said context. If you don't agree with that, can you then explain to me what that implies to you?

[Ragnaria]

Spare us the faux outrage. You're still just sour about the GCR delegates stacking against your old pro-fascist proposals. If they had stacked in favor of them, you wouldn't even care.

It's just plain old outrage, nothing faux about it. The fact that a couple large delegates can effectively decide the outcome of an entire vote is absurd.

It is fairly disheartening when you see a proposal being up, with well over four thousands endorsement within seconds. Really does put things into perspectives, a perspective of utter hopelessness.

[RiderSyl]

It's just plain old outrage, nothing faux about it. The fact that a couple large delegates can effectively decide the outcome of an entire vote is absurd.

The fact that someone so authoritarian is complaining about a proclaimed lack of power by the common man is what's absurd. What, do you honestly expect anyone to believe you're genuinely outraged? You love dictactorships. You wrote a proposal praising fascists. Clearly, you hypocritically believe that it's only good to have a select group of people that can throw their weight around if they're throwing it around for you.

That doesn't imply a request for more context.

OOC: It quite clearly states that Jocospor's original comment was lacking context, which I would logically interpret as a request to provide said context. If you don't agree with that, can you then explain to me what that implies to you?

It implies nothing more than what it says. You know that's possible, right? Not everything carries some unsaid meaning.

It's just plain old outrage, nothing faux about it. The fact that a couple large delegates can effectively decide the outcome of an entire vote is absurd.

It is fairly disheartening when you see a proposal being up, with well over four thousands endorsement within seconds. Really does put things into perspectives, a perspective of utter hopelessness.

You're being pointlessly dramatic. Remove the huge delegates' votes from the equation, and it's still passing by a wide margin. How's that for putting things into perspective?

[Caracasus]

Haven't seen much of Xoriet, though I have heard of some of their in game activities. I'd rather hear more about why/why not these deserve commendation than arguing over semantics of a warning.

[ShrewLlamaLand]

It's just plain old outrage, nothing faux about it. The fact that a couple large delegates can effectively decide the outcome of an entire vote is absurd.

The fact that someone so authoritarian is complaining about a proclaimed lack of power by the common man is what's absurd. What, do you honestly expect anyone to believe you're genuinely outraged? You love dictactorships. You wrote a proposal praising fascists. Clearly, you hypocritically believe that it's only good to have a select group of people that can throw their weight around if they're throwing it around for you.

As I said earlier, I am outraged, frankly it's ridiculous practice.

I'm not particularly concerned about whether you believe me or not. Your argument essentially boils down to "would you still be outraged if the delegate vote was in your favour?" - I think we've used this one before, but we aren't called the Confederation of Corrupt Dictators for nothing.

OOC: It quite clearly states that Jocospor's original comment was lacking context, which I would logically interpret as a request to provide said context. If you don't agree with that, can you then explain to me what that implies to you?

It implies nothing more than what it says. You know that's possible, right? Not everything carries some unsaid meaning.

OOC: Then what is the point of posting it?

[ShrewLlamaLand]

I'd rather hear more about why/why not these deserve commendation than arguing over semantics of a warning.

If you have to ask about why they deserve the commendation, they probably don't deserve the commendation.

[Caracasus]

I'd rather hear more about why/why not these deserve commendation than arguing over semantics of a warning.

If you have to ask about why they deserve the commendation, they probably don't deserve the commendation.

Well I tried subtle...

Can we please move this back to the subject at hand folks?

[Kyorgia]

xor is very mean and should not be commended ok thanks

[Lord Dominator]

I'd rather hear more about why/why not these deserve commendation than arguing over semantics of a warning.

If you have to ask about why they deserve the commendation, they probably don't deserve the commendation.

Or maybe you just don't know them because they haven't done something recently in the public eye

[RiderSyl]

The fact that someone so authoritarian is complaining about a proclaimed lack of power by the common man is what's absurd. What, do you honestly expect anyone to believe you're genuinely outraged? You love dictactorships. You wrote a proposal praising fascists. Clearly, you hypocritically believe that it's only good to have a select group of people that can throw their weight around if they're throwing it around for you.

As I said earlier, I am outraged, frankly it's ridiculous practice.

I'm not particularly concerned about whether you believe me or not. Your argument essentially boils down to "would you still be outraged if the delegate vote was in your favour?" - I think we've used this one before, but we aren't called the Confederation of Corrupt Dictators for nothing.

It's very considerate of you to prove my point for me. Thanks!

If you have to ask about why they deserve the commendation, they probably don't deserve the commendation.

[Caracasus]

If you have to ask about why they deserve the commendation, they probably don't deserve the commendation.

Or maybe you just don't know them because they haven't done something recently in the public eye

Actually, you might be able to help me out here. Seems that the raids on fascist regions were years ago. I heard recently that raiding fascist regions isn't overly impressive because basically everyone just stands to one side and lets them get on with it - so it's largely easier from a technical point of view.

As someone with more insight than me on this, a) is this true and b) did this hold true several years ago or is it a more recent thing?

[Lord Dominator]

Or maybe you just don't know them because they haven't done something recently in the public eye

Actually, you might be able to help me out here. Seems that the raids on fascist regions were years ago. I heard recently that raiding fascist regions isn't overly impressive because basically everyone just stands to one side and lets them get on with it - so it's largely easier from a technical point of view.

As someone with more insight than me on this, a) is this true and b) did this hold true several years ago or is it a more recent thing?

Raiding large fascist/nazi regions would still be considered impressive in general, it's just that holding the region is ridiculously easy since no one will try to liberate them. Putting it together would still require possible sleepers and harder than normal organization since you're generally setting up more people during update, with many possibly coming from orgs that traditionally fight each other.

[Caracasus]

Actually, you might be able to help me out here. Seems that the raids on fascist regions were years ago. I heard recently that raiding fascist regions isn't overly impressive because basically everyone just stands to one side and lets them get on with it - so it's largely easier from a technical point of view.

As someone with more insight than me on this, a) is this true and b) did this hold true several years ago or is it a more recent thing?

Raiding large fascist/nazi regions would still be considered impressive in general, it's just that holding the region is ridiculously easy since no one will try to liberate them. Putting it together would still require possible sleepers and harder than normal organization since you're generally setting up more people during update, with many possibly coming from orgs that traditionally fight each other.

Ahh, so easier to accomplish once you've put in a hell of a lot of groundwork than you'd usually need to building alliances and playing nicely with others. Okay, that seems fair enough to me and certainly worthy of recognition.