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Postby ShrewLlamaLand » Mon Aug 27, 2018 12:41 pm

RiderSyl wrote:
ShrewLlamaLand wrote:https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=446517&p=34336534

That's your founder sore over his General Assembly proposal not passing due to two large delegates being against. There's nothing of substance there.

It's all substance, the fact that the proposal failed to pass "due to two large delegates being against" proves exactly why the voting system is flawed.

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I was asked to elaborate on my opinion, and that post by our regional founder pretty much covers it. Beyond that, there's no point in continuing the discussion here.
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Postby Benevolent Thomas » Mon Aug 27, 2018 12:45 pm

RiderSyl wrote:So you'll be voting against out of spite because of what the target said about your region.
Okay, cool.

Welcome to the Security Council, lol.

I don't think we need to nail this person to the cross when that's the mindset many of us approach the SC with.
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Postby RiderSyl » Mon Aug 27, 2018 12:56 pm

Benevolent Thomas wrote:I don't think we need to nail this person to the cross when that's the mindset many of us approach the SC with.


Speak for yourself, BT. Some of us can separate criticism of our regions from our voting record.
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Postby Tinhampton » Mon Aug 27, 2018 1:01 pm

ShrewLlamaLand wrote:
RiderSyl wrote:That's your founder sore over his General Assembly proposal not passing due to two large delegates being against. There's nothing of substance there.

It's all substance, the fact that the proposal failed to pass "due to two large delegates being against" proves exactly why the voting system is flawed.

Repeal "Ban on Secret Treaties," by Jocospor, was defeated by a margin of 9,908 votes against to 5,678 votes for. Even if Siwale and Erinor had voted FOR the proposal, the proposal would have 8,142 votes against to 7,462 votes for... and (wink wink nudge nudge!) would still have been defeated. :roll:
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Postby Escade » Mon Aug 27, 2018 5:35 pm

Okies, made three edits regarding some of the points brought up! Please let me know of any more edits. I'd like to start the next step of the commendation process this week if possible!

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Postby Kuriko » Mon Aug 27, 2018 6:26 pm

Escade wrote:

Commend Xoriet
Category: Commendation | Nominee: Xoriet | Proposed by: Escade

The August Security Council:

Acknowledging the estimable impact that Xoriet, a power house nation and mentor, has had on the NationStates community and its membership over six years;

Recognizing the nation’s crucial role in shaping the East Pacific, as their former WA Delegate and member, by:
  • Aiding in developing and promoting activity in the region, through all branches of government; over a lengthy time period;
  • Enhancing the region's foreign affairs including providing guidance on treaties with TNP, Osiris, and Taijitu and forging unofficial relations across the ideological spectrum;
  • Building and gaining positive international prestige for the region and setting the region on a course that resounds positively today;


Appreciating the nation's leadership skills in leading the Eastern Pacific Sovereign Army (EPSA) to its golden age and making it one of the preeminent militaries of its time, which included such tasks as:
  • Capturing Nazi Europa in 2014 in unison with 11 other organizations;
  • Defending the European Union in 2014 from a joint raid by TBH, TBR, UIAF;
  • Cooperating with every GCR military in 2014;
  • Hitting 100 detags per week during that time period;
  • Growing EPSA membership to a high of 20 military members;
  • Helping organize the 60 nations needed to liberate Anne Frank from the fascist occupiers in December 2014;
  • And successfully completing 315 individual operations between March 2014 and April 2015;


Observing that the nation has produced a veritable library of material on a variety of scholarly topics including safety, security, writing, politics amongst others that have been well received at international conventions such as the NationStates World Fair (NSWF);

Respecting the efforts made by Xorietian philosophers in writing and publishing well-received guides on how nations may better interact;

Lauding their role in leading the way in establishing guidelines for a safer NS community through the recognition and prevention of abuse as well as how to escape from it;

Believing that puppet nations of Xoriet have always striven to engage in military action with the utmost integrity and that the nation has had an important impact on the military dynamic as a leader: for example, in addition to leadership and intelligence roles, the nation was the most active among nations in the restoration of regions damaged by raids to their former state during the summer of 2014 and reached several such milestones over their military career.

Remarking that the military capability of the nation Anera, a nation under the control of Xoriet, resulted in the revival of Lone Wolves United so it reached a high of 70 ops and and 22 members;

Impressed that the nation has estimable intel knowledge and intelligence networks and is responsible for being a power broker in international relations as well as training and mentoring new power brokers;

Commending the nation's leadership, innovations, and Xoriet's role as an invaluable mentor to prominent nations, including several WA Delegates and founders, and their ability to develop connections and maintain relationships between nations and regions;

Hereby commends Xoriet.

Co-authored with Kozmix, Ramaeus, and Severisen.


Thanks to co-authors for helping make this happen and thank you in advance for comments, edits and suggestions! This is a proposal for a player who has mentored me and who I adore both as a friend and as fellow player in the game. <3 Xoriet



Commend Xoriet
Category: Commendation | Nominee: Xoriet | Proposed by: Escade

The August Security Council:

Acknowledging the estimable impact that Xoriet, a power house nation and mentor, has had on the NationStates community and its membership over six years;

Recognizing the nation’s crucial role in shaping the East Pacific, as their former WA Delegate and member, by: aiding in developing and promoting activity in the region, through all branches of government; over a lengthy time period; enhancing the region's foreign affairs including providing guidance on treaties with TNP, Osiris, and Taijitu and forging unofficial relations across the ideological spectrum; building and gaining positive international prestige for the region and setting the region on a course that resounds positively today;

Appreciating the nation's leadership skills in reviving East Pacific Sovereign Army (EPSA) and making it one of the preeminent militaries of it’s time which included: taking Nazi Europa in 2014 with 11 other organizations; defending the European Union in 2014 from a joint raid by TBH, TBR, UIAF; cooperating with every GCR military in 2014; hitting 100 detags per week during that time period; growing EPSA membership to a high of 20 military members; helping organize the 60 updators needed to liberate Anne Frank from fascists in December 2014; and successfully completing 315 individual operations between March 2014 and April 2015;

Observing that the nation has produced a veritable library of material on a variety of scholarly topics including safety, security, writing, politics amongst others that have been well received at international conventions such as the NationStates World Fair (NSWF);

Respecting the efforts made by Xorietian philosophers in writing and publishing well-received guides on how nations may better interact;

Lauding their role in leading the way in establishing guidelines for a safer NS community through the recognition and prevention of abuse as well as how to escape from it;

Believing that puppet nations of Xoriet have always striven to engage in military action with the utmost integrity and that the nation has had an important impact on the R\D dynamic as a leader: for example, in addition to leadership and intel roles, the nation was the most active detagger during summer 2014 and reached several such milestones over their R\D career

Remarking that the military capability of the nation Anera, a nation under the control of Xoriet, resulted in the revival of Lone Wolves United so it reached a high of 70 ops and and 22 members;

Impressed that the nation has estimable intel knowledge and intel networks and is responsible for being a power broker in the game as well as training and mentoring new power brokers;

Commending the nation's leadership, innovations, and Xoriet's role as an invaluable mentor to prominent nations, including several WA Delegates and founders, and their ability to develop connections and maintain relationships between nations and regions;

Hereby commends Xoriet.

Co-authored with Kozmix, Ramaeus, and Severisen.

I made some small changes in red, mostly to my own preference of putting achievements in an actual list. I don't know what it does to your character count, and you don't need to do it, but I think it looks nicer when listed.
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Postby Jar Wattinree » Mon Aug 27, 2018 7:46 pm

Kuriko wrote:I made some small changes in red, mostly to my own preference of putting achievements in an actual list. I don't know what it does to your character count, and you don't need to do it, but I think it looks nicer when listed.

This is also for Escade: I'd change "detag" to "strike" or even "strategic strike" since they are essentially the same thing *and* would be rule compliant.

Oh, and Kuriko, the character count would be 7031, counting all of the BBCode.
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Postby Consular » Tue Aug 28, 2018 4:42 am

Ambassador Faber poured himself a bourbon and idly wondered why people would waste their time trying to debate with a fascist

Of all the words you could go with, you went with estimable? Honestly you could have just said acknowledging the impact. Estimable is a kinda awkward word.

For the second and third clauses, might I recommend bullet points?

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Postby Kuriko » Tue Aug 28, 2018 6:19 am

Jar Wattinree wrote:
Kuriko wrote:I made some small changes in red, mostly to my own preference of putting achievements in an actual list. I don't know what it does to your character count, and you don't need to do it, but I think it looks nicer when listed.

This is also for Escade: I'd change "detag" to "strike" or even "strategic strike" since they are essentially the same thing *and* would be rule compliant.

Oh, and Kuriko, the character count would be 7031, counting all of the BBCode.

Ouch, i didn't even add that much bbcode either I don't think :/

Edit: No, the proposal character count is 3,466 by way of Google Doc. Not sure where you got over 7,000 from Jar.
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Postby Jocospor » Fri Aug 31, 2018 6:30 am

Benevolent Thomas wrote:
RiderSyl wrote:So you'll be voting against out of spite because of what the target said about your region.
Okay, cool.

Welcome to the Security Council, lol.

I don't think we need to nail this person to the cross when that's the mindset many of us approach the SC with.

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Postby Fauxia » Fri Aug 31, 2018 1:29 pm

Jar Wattinree wrote:
Kuriko wrote:I made some small changes in red, mostly to my own preference of putting achievements in an actual list. I don't know what it does to your character count, and you don't need to do it, but I think it looks nicer when listed.

This is also for Escade: I'd change "detag" to "strike" or even "strategic strike" since they are essentially the same thing *and* would be rule compliant.

Oh, and Kuriko, the character count would be 7031, counting all of the BBCode.

I would think “detag” is compliant. Pretty sure “tag” or “tag raid” has been used before.
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Postby Jar Wattinree » Fri Aug 31, 2018 1:49 pm

Kuriko wrote:
Jar Wattinree wrote:This is also for Escade: I'd change "detag" to "strike" or even "strategic strike" since they are essentially the same thing *and* would be rule compliant.

Oh, and Kuriko, the character count would be 7031, counting all of the BBCode.

Ouch, i didn't even add that much bbcode either I don't think :/

Edit: No, the proposal character count is 3,466 by way of Google Doc. Not sure where you got over 7,000 from Jar.

Yeah, it checks out. I dunno where I got that number. I think I had accidentally included the previous draft from Escade's post. :lol2:
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Postby Lord Dominator » Fri Aug 31, 2018 5:22 pm

Jar Wattinree wrote:
Kuriko wrote:Ouch, i didn't even add that much bbcode either I don't think :/

Edit: No, the proposal character count is 3,466 by way of Google Doc. Not sure where you got over 7,000 from Jar.

Yeah, it checks out. I dunno where I got that number. I think I had accidentally included the previous draft from Escade's post. :lol2:

shames Jar

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Lord Dominator wrote:shames Jar

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Postby Feux » Sun Sep 02, 2018 2:56 pm

I will help ensure Comrade Xoriet is recognized by the SC.
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Postby Escade » Sun Sep 30, 2018 12:16 pm

Okies lovelies, thanks so much for comments and edits. I updated the current draft with the changes proposed.


Kuriko your suggestions and like reorganization was super helpful so added you as a co-author :)

I've gone over it once more to see if there are any issues and think it stands on its own know. I would love to move forward on this so if there are any final thoughts or ways to make this more epic, let me know :)
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Postby Consular » Mon Oct 01, 2018 7:14 am

Please remove the word august. PLEASE.

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Postby Glacikaldr » Mon Oct 01, 2018 8:03 am

Consular wrote:Please remove the word august. PLEASE.

Yeah, I mean, at least change it to October ;)
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Postby Tim-Opolis » Mon Oct 01, 2018 8:25 am

Consular wrote:Please remove the word august. PLEASE.

Retweet. It just doesn't work; stick to the tried and true formatting.
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Postby Escade » Mon Oct 01, 2018 4:09 pm

Consular, fixed.

Tim-Opolis wrote:
Consular wrote:Please remove the word august. PLEASE.

Retweet. It just doesn't work; stick to the tried and true formatting.


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Postby Jar Wattinree » Mon Oct 01, 2018 4:12 pm

Consular wrote:Please remove the word august. PLEASE.

How about "most respected"?
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Postby Lord Dominator » Mon Oct 01, 2018 4:13 pm

Jar Wattinree wrote:
Consular wrote:Please remove the word august. PLEASE.

How about "most respected"?

:rofl:

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Postby Kuriko » Mon Oct 01, 2018 5:27 pm

Escade wrote:Okies lovelies, thanks so much for comments and edits. I updated the current draft with the changes proposed.


Kuriko your suggestions and like reorganization was super helpful so added you as a co-author :)

I've gone over it once more to see if there are any issues and think it stands on its own know. I would love to move forward on this so if there are any final thoughts or ways to make this more epic, let me know :)

I'm honored, but I don't know how I feel having replaced Kozmix on that list. Can I ask why you replaced him with my name??
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Postby Consular » Mon Oct 01, 2018 7:01 pm

Jar Wattinree wrote:
Consular wrote:Please remove the word august. PLEASE.

How about "most respected"?

NO.

There is nothing wrong with just "The Security Council" >:(

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Postby Flanderlion » Mon Oct 01, 2018 10:22 pm

What is with the August bit? I thought it was a reference to the August Revolution and some NPO guys in the distant past made it into a meme, and the old guys now just fell for whatever fake reason was given to them and included it in SC resolutions. It's especially fitting in this one as it was where the NPO came to being, and Xoriet is NPO.
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