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[DEFEATED] Commend Confederation Of Corrupt Dictators

Postby ShrewLlamaLand » Wed Aug 22, 2018 9:07 am

The Security Council,

Acknowleding the efforts made by the Confederation of Corrupt Dictators (herein the Confederation) in creating the most populous collective of fascist nations in the world;

Believing that the Security Council has the responsibility to recoginise contributions of regions founded on less conventional systems of government;

Applauding the great contributions made to the fascist community by the Confederation, in particular the efforts of the Supreme Council led by the regional founder, Jocospor;

Noting that the Confederation is an old region with a very rich history, which has recently seen immense growth and now ranks among the most populous regions in the world;

Admiring the great contributions of the Confederation to the World Assembly; in particular, by encouraging less-prominent factions within both the General Assembly and Security Council not to be misled by influental magnates;

Recognising that the Confederation has exercised its international power to promote the spread of fascism and dictatorial governance throughout the world, and in doing so has provided a new home for many hundreds of like-minded nations;

Hereby commends the Confederation of Corrupt Dictators.
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Postby Armaros » Wed Aug 22, 2018 9:16 am

Right, just what we needed. more fascists in the sc. Listen dude, the Security Council luckily consists of people who don't like horrific and disgusting ideologists. This region, like so many others, has done nothing to be commended. Fascists don't deserve anything but being driven out of their homes. There is no place in ns for abhorrent people who advocate racism and discrimination besides genocide. Fascism is trash, and those who believe in it are horrible people. I really hope you give this up so we don't waste our time here and can get back to serious resolutions. Thank you in advance.

EDIT: Did I mention that it's a self commend? those are generally not liked.
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Postby ShrewLlamaLand » Wed Aug 22, 2018 9:26 am

Armaros wrote:Right, just what we needed. more fascists in the sc. Listen dude, the Security Council luckily consists of people who don't like horrific and disgusting ideologists. This region, like so many others, has done nothing to be commended. Fascists don't deserve anything but being driven out of their homes. There is no place in ns for abhorrent people who advocate racism and discrimination besides genocide. Fascism is trash, and those who believe in it are horrible people. I really hope you give this up so we don't waste our time here and can get back to serious resolutions. Thank you in advance.

EDIT: Did I mention that it's a self commend? those are generally not liked.

May I remind you of the following article from General Assembly Resolution #2:

Section I:
Article 1 § Every WA Member State has the right to independence and hence to exercise freely, without dictation by any other NationState, all its legal powers, including the choice of its own form of government.

Fascist nations have every right to exist, and fascist regions have every right to be commended based on their contributions to NationStates, not on your personal political opinion.

With regards to your "self commend" accusation - well spotted. Unlike many other proposals, I didn't bother to create a puppet nation in another region for the submission.
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Postby Jocospor » Wed Aug 22, 2018 9:27 am

ShrewLlamaLand wrote:
Armaros wrote:Right, just what we needed. more fascists in the sc. Listen dude, the Security Council luckily consists of people who don't like horrific and disgusting ideologists. This region, like so many others, has done nothing to be commended. Fascists don't deserve anything but being driven out of their homes. There is no place in ns for abhorrent people who advocate racism and discrimination besides genocide. Fascism is trash, and those who believe in it are horrible people. I really hope you give this up so we don't waste our time here and can get back to serious resolutions. Thank you in advance.

EDIT: Did I mention that it's a self commend? those are generally not liked.

May I remind you of the following article from General Assembly Resolution #2:

Section I:
Article 1 § Every WA Member State has the right to independence and hence to exercise freely, without dictation by any other NationState, all its legal powers, including the choice of its own form of government.

Fascist nations have every right to exist, and fascist regions have every right to be commended based on their contributions to NationStates, not on your personal political opinion.

With regards to your "self commend" accusation - well spotted. Unlike many other proposals, I didn't bother to create a puppet nation in another region for the submission.


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Postby Armaros » Wed Aug 22, 2018 9:29 am

ShrewLlamaLand wrote:
Armaros wrote:Right, just what we needed. more fascists in the sc. Listen dude, the Security Council luckily consists of people who don't like horrific and disgusting ideologists. This region, like so many others, has done nothing to be commended. Fascists don't deserve anything but being driven out of their homes. There is no place in ns for abhorrent people who advocate racism and discrimination besides genocide. Fascism is trash, and those who believe in it are horrible people. I really hope you give this up so we don't waste our time here and can get back to serious resolutions. Thank you in advance.

EDIT: Did I mention that it's a self commend? those are generally not liked.

May I remind you of the following article from General Assembly Resolution #2:

Section I:
Article 1 § Every WA Member State has the right to independence and hence to exercise freely, without dictation by any other NationState, all its legal powers, including the choice of its own form of government.

Fascist nations have every right to exist, and fascist regions have every right to be commended based on their contributions to NationStates, not on your personal political opinion.

With regards to your "self commend" accusation - well spotted. Unlike many other proposals, I didn't bother to create a puppet nation in another region for the submission.

May I remind you that this is not the GA but the SC. there's a difference.
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Postby Aclion » Wed Aug 22, 2018 9:33 am

ShrewLlamaLand wrote:Fascist nations have every right to exist, and fascist regions have every right to be commended based on their contributions to NationStates, not on your personal political opinion.

No region is entitled to commendation, and judging from your proposal your region has done very little to deserve it.
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Postby ShrewLlamaLand » Wed Aug 22, 2018 9:34 am

Armaros wrote:May I remind you that this is not the GA but the SC. there's a difference.

Oh sorry, I forgot that previously passed General Assembly proposals just don't apply to the Security Council. I'll delete the proposal right away.

In all seriousness, yes, I am very aware they are different. That doesn't mean that proposals passed in one section of the World Assembly have no relevance to the other, nor does it mean that your personal political beliefs supersede GA#2, probably the most important World Assembly resolution ever passed.
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Postby Aureumterra » Wed Aug 22, 2018 9:38 am

ShrewLlamaLand wrote:Applauding the great contributions made to the fascist community by the Confederation, in particular the efforts of the Supreme Council led by the regional founder, Jocospor;

You do realize this is the same guy who tried to boycott forum drafting because all of his proposals were defeated
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Postby ShrewLlamaLand » Wed Aug 22, 2018 9:46 am

Aureumterra wrote:
ShrewLlamaLand wrote:Applauding the great contributions made to the fascist community by the Confederation, in particular the efforts of the Supreme Council led by the regional founder, Jocospor;

You do realize this is the same guy who tried to boycott forum drafting because all of his proposals were defeated

You'll be pleased to learn that the Imperial Empire's attitudes towards forum drafting have undergone a dramatic shift recently.

For example, I consulted with the Imperial Empire before submitting this proposal, which I am pleased to note was drafted for a total of 8 minutes before being submitted.
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Postby Aureumterra » Wed Aug 22, 2018 9:48 am

eight minutes?
You’re supposed to forum draft first, and let it sit on the forum for weeks until you submit it

I see it’s already submitted, I do not think you understand how forum drafting works, and don’t expect to get too many votes due to this

opposed

EDIT: If it’s already submitted, why did you put draft in the title?
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Postby Tinhampton » Wed Aug 22, 2018 9:52 am

Jocospor, the CCD's founder, has just sent out a campaign telegram to commend the CCD, written by a member of the CCD. Note the emphasis on "Fascist."
To all the delegates of the World Assembly,

The Imperial Empire cordially invites you to meet the quorum and approve the new Security Council proposal:

Commend Confederation of Corrupt Dictators.

The Confederation is proud to have cultivated a society that nurtures and cares for nations exercising dictatorial power. Only recently, the Confederation was ranked the largest region in the world to be classified as Fascist.

The Confederation understands, though, that, sadly, fascism isn't for everyone. Neither is a good old dictatorship. That said, every nation - every ideology - needs a home. The Confederation has been criticised for its beliefs since its founding three years ago; that said, it has stood true to those beliefs, and continues to operate as a sanctuary for right-wing governments from all corners of the world.

The Imperial Empire applauds all delegates for their swift responses.

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Postby ShrewLlamaLand » Wed Aug 22, 2018 9:53 am

Aureumterra wrote:eight minutes?
You’re supposed to forum draft first, and let it sit on the forum for weeks until you submit it

I let it sit on the forum for exactly as long as needed to gather what I felt was a sufficient level of input from the WA community.

Aureumterra wrote:EDIT: If it’s already submitted, why did you put draft in the title?

At that point in time it hadn't been submitted.
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Postby Jocospor » Wed Aug 22, 2018 9:56 am

Tinhampton wrote:Jocospor, the CCD's founder, has just sent out a campaign telegram to commend the CCD, written by a member of the CCD. Note the emphasis on "Fascist."
To all the delegates of the World Assembly,

The Imperial Empire cordially invites you to meet the quorum and approve the new Security Council proposal:

Commend Confederation of Corrupt Dictators.

The Confederation is proud to have cultivated a society that nurtures and cares for nations exercising dictatorial power. Only recently, the Confederation was ranked the largest region in the world to be classified as Fascist.

The Confederation understands, though, that, sadly, fascism isn't for everyone. Neither is a good old dictatorship. That said, every nation - every ideology - needs a home. The Confederation has been criticised for its beliefs since its founding three years ago; that said, it has stood true to those beliefs, and continues to operate as a sanctuary for right-wing governments from all corners of the world.

The Imperial Empire applauds all delegates for their swift responses.

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Absolutely. Here in the Confederation, we believe that, if there's a campaign going on about us, we should be the ones to finance it. And what a beautiful telegram it is, wouldn't you say? Such colours! Our thanks for advertising it further.
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Postby Aureumterra » Wed Aug 22, 2018 9:58 am

ShrewLlamaLand wrote:
Aureumterra wrote:eight minutes?
You’re supposed to forum draft first, and let it sit on the forum for weeks until you submit it

I let it sit on the forum for exactly as long as needed to gather what I felt was a sufficient level of input from the WA community.

Aureumterra wrote:EDIT: If it’s already submitted, why did you put draft in the title?

At that point in time it hadn’t been submitted.

Well, just like both of Jocospor’s previous proposals, don’t expect this one to pass, lack of forum drafting was the one of the main reasons why both of Jocospor’s proposals were defeated, even after gaining delegate approval
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Postby Jocospor » Wed Aug 22, 2018 10:03 am

Aureumterra wrote:
ShrewLlamaLand wrote:I let it sit on the forum for exactly as long as needed to gather what I felt was a sufficient level of input from the WA community.


At that point in time it hadn’t been submitted.

Well, just like both of Jocospor’s previous proposals, don’t expect this one to pass, lack of forum drafting was the one of the main reasons why both of Jocospor’s proposals were defeated, even after gaining delegate approval

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Postby Armaros » Wed Aug 22, 2018 10:18 am

This isn't gonna pass anyway, drafting or not. The SC is generally made up of decent people who don't support fascism. In fact, every major region will stomp this. Why bother? Drop it already please, and you can go spread your hate in your own region. I've complained that the SC were inactive the last few weeks, but I didn't ask for fash trash to show up. And also, if the proposal didn't make clear you guys are fascists, then your campaigning certainly did. I doubt it will even pass delegate approval, and if it does, it will get destroyed.
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Postby ShrewLlamaLand » Wed Aug 22, 2018 10:22 am

Armaros wrote:This isn't gonna pass anyway, drafting or not. The SC is generally made up of decent people who don't support fascism. In fact, every major region will stomp this. Why bother? Drop it already please, and you can go spread your hate in your own region. I've complained that the SC were inactive the last few weeks, but I didn't ask for fash trash to show up. And also, if the proposal didn't make clear you guys are fascists, then your campaigning certainly did. I doubt it will even pass delegate approval, and if it does, it will get destroyed.

Thank you for your valuable input. I'm glad that despite claiming you're strongly opposed to fascism, you've ultimately decided that your own personal opinion trumps the yet-to-be-determined collective opinion of the Security Council.
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Postby Armaros » Wed Aug 22, 2018 10:24 am

ShrewLlamaLand wrote:
Armaros wrote:This isn't gonna pass anyway, drafting or not. The SC is generally made up of decent people who don't support fascism. In fact, every major region will stomp this. Why bother? Drop it already please, and you can go spread your hate in your own region. I've complained that the SC were inactive the last few weeks, but I didn't ask for fash trash to show up. And also, if the proposal didn't make clear you guys are fascists, then your campaigning certainly did. I doubt it will even pass delegate approval, and if it does, it will get destroyed.

Thank you for your valuable input. I'm glad that despite claiming you're strongly opposed to fascism, you've ultimately decided that your own personal opinion trumps the yet-to-be-determined collective opinion of the Security Council.

Correction: the sc has shown time after time of it's dislike for fascists and nazi's. Doing some research before you respond would be nice.
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Postby Aureumterra » Wed Aug 22, 2018 10:30 am

ShrewLlamaLand wrote:
Armaros wrote:This isn't gonna pass anyway, drafting or not. The SC is generally made up of decent people who don't support fascism. In fact, every major region will stomp this. Why bother? Drop it already please, and you can go spread your hate in your own region. I've complained that the SC were inactive the last few weeks, but I didn't ask for fash trash to show up. And also, if the proposal didn't make clear you guys are fascists, then your campaigning certainly did. I doubt it will even pass delegate approval, and if it does, it will get destroyed.

Thank you for your valuable input. I’m glad that despite claiming you're strongly opposed to fascism, you've ultimately decided that your own personal opinion trumps the yet-to-be-determined collective opinion of the Security Council.

Rarely does the SC pass resolutions commending Fascist or Communist regions. The few times that has happened was due to the region being of great value to the broad WA community, or have been significant to NS history. This region does not match either.
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Postby Dawn Kingdom » Wed Aug 22, 2018 10:56 am

I hope it will pass, it is past the time other regions should see greatness of our confederstion.

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Postby Michine » Wed Aug 22, 2018 12:05 pm

I don't know if all this belligerence towards the World Assembly community is necessarily a good idea considering these are the people you will need on your side to get this passed - things like minimising the importance of drafting in a theatrical sort of way and showing no concern about this basically being a self-commendation (which is essentially an automatic no just on the principle of the thing) aren't going to go down well. I'd advise being more subtle and open in your approach if you want people to like you - which is basically what a commendation is, unless you meant to submit this as a condemnation?

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Postby Kuriko » Wed Aug 22, 2018 12:09 pm

Holy crap, whole-heartedly against this with all my being. Not only are you not commend worthy, but you also grew to your current size by sending a recruitment telegram to every WA nation in NS. In my mind, your region will never be commend worthy just for that alone.

Edit: Plus your proud proclamation of being fascist. Fascism is not an ideology to be proud of.
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Postby Dawn Kingdom » Wed Aug 22, 2018 12:43 pm

Kuriko wrote:Holy crap, whole-heartedly against this with all my being. Not only are you not commend worthy, but you also grew to your current size by sending a recruitment telegram to every WA nation in NS. In my mind, your region will never be commend worthy just for that alone.

Edit: Plus your proud proclamation of being fascist. Fascism is not an ideology to be proud of.


Is being liberal and democratic an ideology to be proud of. Think not!!! In your mind region will not be commended, but in reality it will. I am saying that whole-heartedly. :rofl:

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Dawn Kingdom wrote:
Kuriko wrote:Holy crap, whole-heartedly against this with all my being. Not only are you not commend worthy, but you also grew to your current size by sending a recruitment telegram to every WA nation in NS. In my mind, your region will never be commend worthy just for that alone.

Edit: Plus your proud proclamation of being fascist. Fascism is not an ideology to be proud of.


Is being liberal and democratic an ideology to be proud of. Think not!!! In your mind region will not be commended, but in reality it will. I am saying that whole-heartedly. :rofl:

Hail the Confederation

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Obviously you aren't aware that most of the major delegates, if not all, are anti-fascist. As are a majority of the NS population :roll:
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Postby Armaros » Wed Aug 22, 2018 1:01 pm

Dawn Kingdom wrote:
Kuriko wrote:Holy crap, whole-heartedly against this with all my being. Not only are you not commend worthy, but you also grew to your current size by sending a recruitment telegram to every WA nation in NS. In my mind, your region will never be commend worthy just for that alone.

Edit: Plus your proud proclamation of being fascist. Fascism is not an ideology to be proud of.


Is being liberal and democratic an ideology to be proud of. Think not!!! In your mind region will not be commended, but in reality it will. I am saying that whole-heartedly. :rofl:

Hail the Confederation

P.S. If “Hail the Confederation” annoys anyone, well then jokes on you.

Alright, since you seem not to be aware of it yourself, i'm just gonna go ahead and point out that regions generally are commended not for ideology but for activity and good communities (Or defenders, they get commended quite often too). So your arguement here is invalid, as Kuri didn't say those regions should be necessarily commended. And then you proceed to say it will pass even tho the sc overall is made up of decent humans, thus they dislike fascism. And aside from that, nothing else is commendable either.
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