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Postby Albrenia » Thu Sep 13, 2018 12:55 am

The government of Albrenia congratulates the seemingly successful counter-campaign against this article. The fallout of which will no doubt shape the future of this venerable assembly for some time to come.

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Postby The Palentine » Thu Sep 13, 2018 1:17 am

Albrenia wrote:The government of Albrenia congratulates the seemingly successful counter-campaign against this article. The fallout of which will no doubt shape the future of this venerable assembly for some time to come.


There was a time I believed that old bean. However my experience here in the Festering Snakepit have observed that nannystaters, fluffies, and do gooders might be thwarted, they are never defeated. They regroup and try again...some of the more stubborn(and stupid) try the same thing again and again. Mostly they attempt to gradually chip away and sneakily get what they want. Seldom are they as brazen as this attempt. That is why we freedom loving nations must always be diligent to protect our National Sovereignty. Now if you excuse me, I'll be going back to hobnailing my liver, while enjoying a fine Yeldan cigar(TM) while the debate continues
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Postby Holy Ilythia » Thu Sep 13, 2018 1:33 am

*enters the Ambassador and Foreign Relations Minister*

I, Khadijah Khatoon of the Empire of Ilythia do humbly welcome this debate of the most controversial topics. I speak for my Emperor and it's people in saying that until we see a better alternative that doesn't put a financial burden on our government and gives us a reason to keep mass murderers and the like in our prisons instead of executed we will humbky keep Capital Punishment. These offenders have already been given a chance and failed, ruining others lives in the process and we can't let that happen a second time.

Now we do realize some innocents in other countries have been wrongly sentenced to death and that should never happen. Though it shows the poor governing of those nations.

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Postby Arasi Luvasa » Thu Sep 13, 2018 1:41 am

Holy Ilythia wrote:*enters the Ambassador and Foreign Relations Minister*

I, Khadijah Khatoon of the Empire of Ilythia do humbly welcome this debate of the most controversial topics. I speak for my Emperor and it's people in saying that until we see a better alternative that doesn't put a financial burden on our government and gives us a reason to keep mass murderers and the like in our prisons instead of executed we will humbky keep Capital Punishment. These offenders have already been given a chance and failed, ruining others lives in the process and we can't let that happen a second time.

Now we do realize some innocents in other countries have been wrongly sentenced to death and that should never happen. Though it shows the poor governing of those nations.


"It shows less poor governing and more the fact that we humans are intrinsically fallible. If capital punishment is legal, innocents will be needlessly executed."
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Postby Jocospor » Thu Sep 13, 2018 2:57 am

Albrenia wrote:The government of Albrenia congratulates the seemingly successful counter-campaign against this article. The fallout of which will no doubt shape the future of this venerable assembly for some time to come.

Our thanks for yours.
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Postby Separatist Peoples » Thu Sep 13, 2018 3:34 am

Ooc: you folks keep going on as if this is a milestone or watershed moment for the GA when new policies fail literally all the time. This is business as usual.
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Postby Jocospor » Thu Sep 13, 2018 3:35 am

Separatist Peoples wrote:Ooc: you folks keep going on as if this is a milestone or watershed moment for the GA when new policies fail literally all the time. This is business as usual.

Oh, please my friend, don't be such a sore loser. Believe us, history will remember where you stood on this.
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Postby Separatist Peoples » Thu Sep 13, 2018 3:39 am

Jocospor wrote:
Separatist Peoples wrote:Ooc: you folks keep going on as if this is a milestone or watershed moment for the GA when new policies fail literally all the time. This is business as usual.

Oh, please my friend, don't be such a sore loser. Believe us, history will remember where you stood on this.

Ooc: kid, we aren't friends. I've played this game for the better part of a decade. You know what was impactful? The Gar#2 discard. Repeal: ICC. Reproductive freedoms.

This is another day in the life of the GA. Like the Clean Prostitute Act. Or like the patent debacle.
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Postby The Sect Meces » Thu Sep 13, 2018 3:42 am

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"At this point, I see no more reason to continue this discussion, well in the assembly anyway. The votes speak for themselves."
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Postby The Sect Meces » Thu Sep 13, 2018 3:44 am

Separatist Peoples wrote:
Jocospor wrote:Oh, please my friend, don't be such a sore loser. Believe us, history will remember where you stood on this.

Ooc: kid, we aren't friends. I've played this game for the better part of a decade. You know what was memorable? The Gar#2 discard. Repeal: ICC. Reproductive freedoms.

This is another day in the life of the GA. Like the Clean Prostitute Act. Or like the patent debacle.



OOC: Boys you need to calm down.
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Postby West Phoenicia » Thu Sep 13, 2018 4:31 am

Ambassador Baroness Margarita Too-Rak stands with a smile.

"Tonight dear World Assembly we stand here in triumph with the failure of this bill to pass the floor. The 80% of West Phoenicians who support capital punishment applaud the nay camp for coming out and voting no. Whether that was due to protecting your national sovereignty or a dozen reasons, tonight the message is clear, a message that is allowing a nation to control their own crime and punishment instead of bowing to the leftist who like spoiled children because they do not want it on their doorstep no nation should.

In honour of this passing Emperor Glenton Gryphon-Bush II Philometar Philopater and his two wives Empress Angelique and Empress Alotta have denied a stay of execution and the execution of Hilary Chevez, a vile terrorist who planned the bombing of a day care centre in West Phoenician will be executed on live television for all to witness. Ratings are predicted to go through the roof as this evil woman will face Madame Gullotine.

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Postby Separatist Peoples » Thu Sep 13, 2018 4:35 am

The Sect Meces wrote:
Separatist Peoples wrote:Ooc: kid, we aren't friends. I've played this game for the better part of a decade. You know what was memorable? The Gar#2 discard. Repeal: ICC. Reproductive freedoms.

This is another day in the life of the GA. Like the Clean Prostitute Act. Or like the patent debacle.



OOC: Boys you need to calm down.

OOC: boy is a term for youthful males. I'm not youthful anymore. Nor, incidentally, do I take orders or suggestions from you.

This isn't a hostile conversation. This is one player telling the other factual statements.
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Postby The Sect Meces » Thu Sep 13, 2018 4:41 am

Separatist Peoples wrote:
The Sect Meces wrote:

OOC: Boys you need to calm down.

OOC: boy is a term for youthful males. I'm not youthful anymore. Nor, incidentally, do I take orders or suggestions from you.

This isn't a hostile conversation. This is one player telling the other factual statements.


OOC: Somebody has a stick up their ass.....
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Postby Separatist Peoples » Thu Sep 13, 2018 4:42 am

The Sect Meces wrote:
Separatist Peoples wrote:OOC: boy is a term for youthful males. I'm not youthful anymore. Nor, incidentally, do I take orders or suggestions from you.

This isn't a hostile conversation. This is one player telling the other factual statements.


OOC: Somebody has a stick up their ass.....

OOC: I think you're confusing mild exasperation with hostility. Its not always easy to read tone by text.
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Postby Jocospor » Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:23 am

Separatist Peoples wrote:
Jocospor wrote:Oh, please my friend, don't be such a sore loser. Believe us, history will remember where you stood on this.

Ooc: kid, we aren't friends. I've played this game for the better part of a decade. You know what was impactful? The Gar#2 discard. Repeal: ICC. Reproductive freedoms.

This is another day in the life of the GA. Like the Clean Prostitute Act. Or like the patent debacle.

You call us "kid". Hmmm. (OOC: I'm no kid either mate, just as you're no boy). You like to resort to belittling those who stand against you, don't you?

We agree with you. Perhaps this particular vote will not leave a legacy. But this can of worms has been opened, and we will only start seeing its effects in the near future, we dare say.
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Postby Separatist Peoples » Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:27 am

Jocospor wrote:
Separatist Peoples wrote:Ooc: kid, we aren't friends. I've played this game for the better part of a decade. You know what was impactful? The Gar#2 discard. Repeal: ICC. Reproductive freedoms.

This is another day in the life of the GA. Like the Clean Prostitute Act. Or like the patent debacle.

You call us "kid". Hmmm. (OOC: I'm no kid either mate, just as you're no boy). You like to resort to belittling those who stand against you, don't you?

OOC: No. A regionmate of yours already let the word out that you're, like, 15. That's a kid.

We agree with you. Perhaps this particular vote will not leave a legacy. But this can of worms has been opened, and we will only start seeing its effects in the near future, we dare say.


OOC: There is still nothing to suggest that. Its optimistic bluster.

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Postby Jocospor » Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:44 am

Separatist Peoples wrote:
Jocospor wrote:You call us "kid". Hmmm. (OOC: I'm no kid either mate, just as you're no boy). You like to resort to belittling those who stand against you, don't you?

OOC: No. A regionmate of yours already let the word out that you're, like, 15. That's a kid.

We agree with you. Perhaps this particular vote will not leave a legacy. But this can of worms has been opened, and we will only start seeing its effects in the near future, we dare say.


OOC: There is still nothing to suggest that. Its optimistic bluster.

OOC: I just fell off my chair laughing. Please, continue to tell me I'm actually 15. What would I know?! Oh my god - and from the General Secretariat too! This just gets better and better.
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Leifar Closes its Final Meeting on the Vote

Postby Leifar » Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:46 am

After a close vote, the final decision of the Ban upon Capital Punishment comes to a close. The Commons Delegate announces the final results live on international television.

"We, of the Leifar General Assembly have finally officiated the decision. With a vote of 70-20, the Leifar General Assembly has decided against the Ban on Capital Punishment. With two hours left on voting, we see no reason to continue discussing this plan. Further meetings will be us discussing what to add upon the proposal at plan. We hope that this decision does fit the view of the people and that we may further the element of unity with this official vote."

LEIFAR FINAL VOTE: AGAINST

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Postby Separatist Peoples » Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:47 am

Jocospor wrote:
Separatist Peoples wrote:OOC: No. A regionmate of yours already let the word out that you're, like, 15. That's a kid.



OOC: There is still nothing to suggest that. Its optimistic bluster.

OOC: I just fell off my chair laughing. Please, continue to tell me I'm actually 15. What would I know?! Oh my god - and from the General Secretariat too! This just gets better and better.

OOC: Eh. Its a credible source who reads your Discord. I trust that source more than your incredulity. It doesn't matter, though. You're making assertion on the results of this vote that are unsupported by anything but your speculation. Contrary to years of prior patterns. Kid or not, the result is the same. You're talking out your rear end.

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Postby Jocospor » Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:54 am

Separatist Peoples wrote:
Jocospor wrote:OOC: I just fell off my chair laughing. Please, continue to tell me I'm actually 15. What would I know?! Oh my god - and from the General Secretariat too! This just gets better and better.

OOC: Eh. Its a credible source who reads your Discord. I trust that source more than your incredulity. It doesn't matter, though. You're making assertion on the results of this vote that are unsupported by anything but your speculation. Contrary to years of prior patterns. Kid or not, the result is the same. You're talking out your rear end.


OOC: We'll see whose rear end gets a good talking, that's for sure.

Oh, and of course, before I forget: You're making assertion on the results of this vote my age that are unsupported by anything but your speculation. Maybe we're not so different after all?
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Postby Separatist Peoples » Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:57 am

Jocospor wrote:
Separatist Peoples wrote:OOC: Eh. Its a credible source who reads your Discord. I trust that source more than your incredulity. It doesn't matter, though. You're making assertion on the results of this vote that are unsupported by anything but your speculation. Contrary to years of prior patterns. Kid or not, the result is the same. You're talking out your rear end.


OOC: We'll see whose rear end gets a good talking, that's for sure.

Oh, and of course, before I forget: You're making assertion on the results of this vote my age that are unsupported by anything but your speculation. Maybe we're not so different after all?


OOC: No. I had the word of a region-mate. That isn't speculation. You can challenge the validity of the statement, but it objectively isn't speculation. I suspect we're pretty different.

But that isn't the topic of the thread, and we're well off any significant nexus to the point. If you want to continue comparing credentials and experiences, it will have to be via a different medium.

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Postby SVR2200 » Thu Sep 13, 2018 7:54 am

God have mercy on poor apes

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Postby Jocospor » Thu Sep 13, 2018 7:57 am

Separatist Peoples wrote:
Jocospor wrote:
OOC: We'll see whose rear end gets a good talking, that's for sure.

Oh, and of course, before I forget: You're making assertion on the results of this vote my age that are unsupported by anything but your speculation. Maybe we're not so different after all?


OOC: No. I had the word of a region-mate. That isn't speculation. You can challenge the validity of the statement, but it objectively isn't speculation. I suspect we're pretty different.

But that isn't the topic of the thread, and we're well off any significant nexus to the point. If you want to continue comparing credentials and experiences, it will have to be via a different medium.

Oh, we've nothing else to say here, other than you should question the validity of that "regionmate" when they provide your with further information. ;)
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Postby Separatist Peoples » Thu Sep 13, 2018 8:10 am

Jocospor wrote:
Separatist Peoples wrote:
OOC: No. I had the word of a region-mate. That isn't speculation. You can challenge the validity of the statement, but it objectively isn't speculation. I suspect we're pretty different.

But that isn't the topic of the thread, and we're well off any significant nexus to the point. If you want to continue comparing credentials and experiences, it will have to be via a different medium.

Oh, we've nothing else to say here, other than you should question the validity of that "regionmate" when they provide your with further information. ;)

OOC: If it makes you feel better, the information was offered unsolicited.

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Postby Jocospor » Thu Sep 13, 2018 8:20 am

Separatist Peoples wrote:
Jocospor wrote:Oh, we've nothing else to say here, other than you should question the validity of that "regionmate" when they provide your with further information. ;)

OOC: If it makes you feel better, the information was offered unsolicited.

OOC: What a comfort.
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