Atlantcian States wrote:Stop the WA from meddling too much in regions!! vote against this Law!
I have no idea ambassador what this has to do with your 'regions,' so please explain.
Dee Vytherov-Skollvaldr
Ambassador to the Festering Snakepit
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by Lord Dominator » Wed Sep 05, 2018 3:55 pm
Atlantcian States wrote:Stop the WA from meddling too much in regions!! vote against this Law!
by Arasi Luvasa » Wed Sep 05, 2018 4:47 pm
Atlantcian States wrote:Stop the WA from meddling too much in regions!! vote against this Law!
by Essu Beti » Wed Sep 05, 2018 5:24 pm
National News Radio: A large-scale infrastructure project will soon be underway. During this time, for safety reasons, the island will be closed to tourists and foreign news agents. We do expect a minor loss in revenue due to this, but this will be greatly offset by both the long and short-term benefits of the infrastructure project. If your job is negatively impacted by the island closure, please send a letter or verbal message via courier to the Council so that we can add you to the list of beneficiaries of foreign aid.
by Arasi Luvasa » Wed Sep 05, 2018 6:26 pm
by Essu Beti » Wed Sep 05, 2018 6:51 pm
Arasi Luvasa wrote:"Excuse me ambassador, I am confused. How is it that you intend to prevent other nations from divulging knowledge of the World Assembly to it's inhabitants? All you could possibly do is prevent your own citizens from obtaining that knowledge."
After briefly talking to one of her assistants, Ariela turns back to the ambassador from Essuu Betti
"And as was mentioned earlier; there are few good reasons, if any, to deny your own citizens access to the systems of law and why they exist."
National News Radio: A large-scale infrastructure project will soon be underway. During this time, for safety reasons, the island will be closed to tourists and foreign news agents. We do expect a minor loss in revenue due to this, but this will be greatly offset by both the long and short-term benefits of the infrastructure project. If your job is negatively impacted by the island closure, please send a letter or verbal message via courier to the Council so that we can add you to the list of beneficiaries of foreign aid.
by Arasi Luvasa » Wed Sep 05, 2018 7:07 pm
by Essu Beti » Wed Sep 05, 2018 7:13 pm
Arasi Luvasa wrote:Ariela's eyes widen with the mention of another world, after a minute of silent contemplation she turn to her aides. "Be certain to remind me that I must inform the Patriarch of this at once when we return. Also I will need to inform our researchers, and build up a dossier on this nation."
National News Radio: A large-scale infrastructure project will soon be underway. During this time, for safety reasons, the island will be closed to tourists and foreign news agents. We do expect a minor loss in revenue due to this, but this will be greatly offset by both the long and short-term benefits of the infrastructure project. If your job is negatively impacted by the island closure, please send a letter or verbal message via courier to the Council so that we can add you to the list of beneficiaries of foreign aid.
by Xanthal » Wed Sep 05, 2018 7:36 pm
by Grenartia » Wed Sep 05, 2018 9:17 pm
Essu Beti wrote:Arasi Luvasa wrote:"Excuse me ambassador, I am confused. How is it that you intend to prevent other nations from divulging knowledge of the World Assembly to it's inhabitants? All you could possibly do is prevent your own citizens from obtaining that knowledge."
After briefly talking to one of her assistants, Ariela turns back to the ambassador from Essuu Betti
"And as was mentioned earlier; there are few good reasons, if any, to deny your own citizens access to the systems of law and why they exist."
“Essu Beti is the only nation on our planet that has access to the World Assembly,” explains Inan. “And the only access to our planet from here is through a portal that leads to an undeveloped swamp in my nation. There is no possibility that, for example, your own nation could tell, for example, Creatan, about the World Assembly, because your nation has no means of contacting them.”
“Our citizens are well aware of the laws passed by the World Assembly. They just, for the most part, assume that they’re our laws, and that the ones the citizenry would have the most objection over were put into place in order to gain support from more powerful nations.”
by Essu Beti » Wed Sep 05, 2018 9:37 pm
Grenartia wrote:It seems, ambassador, that your nation is already running afoul of WA legislation, as your very presence in this body constitutes a secret treaty on your part. Which was banned in GA 408.
National News Radio: A large-scale infrastructure project will soon be underway. During this time, for safety reasons, the island will be closed to tourists and foreign news agents. We do expect a minor loss in revenue due to this, but this will be greatly offset by both the long and short-term benefits of the infrastructure project. If your job is negatively impacted by the island closure, please send a letter or verbal message via courier to the Council so that we can add you to the list of beneficiaries of foreign aid.
by Grenartia » Wed Sep 05, 2018 10:18 pm
Essu Beti wrote:Grenartia wrote:It seems, ambassador, that your nation is already running afoul of WA legislation, as your very presence in this body constitutes a secret treaty on your part. Which was banned in GA 408.
“Would you care to explain how anything my nation is doing is a “secret treaty?”” asks Inan.
by Jocospor » Thu Sep 06, 2018 7:00 am
Grenartia wrote:Essu Beti wrote:
“Would you care to explain how anything my nation is doing is a “secret treaty?”” asks Inan.
Its a rather simple matter, ambassador. Quite frankly, its so simple, I'm shocked I have to explain it to you, unless you're being deliberately obtuse.
Your nation's membership in the WA required a treaty to be signed. The fact that your government has kept the existence of the WA classified from public knowledge means it is secret.
Therefore, a secret treaty.
by Lord Dominator » Thu Sep 06, 2018 9:55 am
Jocospor wrote:Grenartia wrote:
Its a rather simple matter, ambassador. Quite frankly, its so simple, I'm shocked I have to explain it to you, unless you're being deliberately obtuse.
Your nation's membership in the WA required a treaty to be signed. The fact that your government has kept the existence of the WA classified from public knowledge means it is secret.
Therefore, a secret treaty.
A most ridiculous law, too. We've mind to repeal it. Oh wait, we tried - ah, but we didn't forum draft it, so it didn't pass. Bother. Maybe we should try it again? I'm sure now we'd have the ambassador from Essu Beti's support.
This flawed World Assembly...
by Hamstan » Thu Sep 06, 2018 12:56 pm
by Essu Beti » Thu Sep 06, 2018 5:03 pm
Grenartia wrote:Its a rather simple matter, ambassador. Quite frankly, its so simple, I'm shocked I have to explain it to you, unless you're being deliberately obtuse.
Your nation's membership in the WA required a treaty to be signed. The fact that your government has kept the existence of the WA classified from public knowledge means it is secret.
Therefore, a secret treaty.
National News Radio: A large-scale infrastructure project will soon be underway. During this time, for safety reasons, the island will be closed to tourists and foreign news agents. We do expect a minor loss in revenue due to this, but this will be greatly offset by both the long and short-term benefits of the infrastructure project. If your job is negatively impacted by the island closure, please send a letter or verbal message via courier to the Council so that we can add you to the list of beneficiaries of foreign aid.
by Wallenburg » Thu Sep 06, 2018 5:34 pm
Essu Beti wrote:The only secret is that we have possession of a portal leading to a multinational body, and that it is this multinational body from which most of our foreign aid comes. These details are not a treaty by any means, shape, or form.”
by Lord Dominator » Thu Sep 06, 2018 5:57 pm
Wallenburg wrote:Essu Beti wrote:The only secret is that we have possession of a portal leading to a multinational body, and that it is this multinational body from which most of our foreign aid comes. These details are not a treaty by any means, shape, or form.”
"Well, that's an entirely different matter!" interjects Ogenbond, smiling benevolently. "There exist no World Assembly resolutions requiring you to reveal the means of your contact with the World Assembly, nor will this resolution require you to reveal the existence or location of your portal. As far as your neighbors are concerned, should they become aware of your public archives of World Assembly resolutions, you are a member of an international legislative body. They probably all know that already, unless your government is magically immune to foreign espionage."
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by Imperium Anglorum » Sat Sep 08, 2018 12:28 am
by Kenmoria » Sat Sep 08, 2018 1:20 am
Imperium Anglorum wrote:Sucks.
The government has to read the resolution. viewtopic.php?f=9&t=30&p=4026148&hilit=read#p4026148
And bans on reading are prohibited by WA legislation, viewtopic.php?f=9&t=30&p=13323627&hilit=read#p13323627 , more specifically,
by Bears Armed » Sat Sep 08, 2018 3:24 am
Kenmoria wrote:Imperium Anglorum wrote:Sucks.
The government has to read the resolution. viewtopic.php?f=9&t=30&p=4026148&hilit=read#p4026148
And bans on reading are prohibited by WA legislation, viewtopic.php?f=9&t=30&p=13323627&hilit=read#p13323627 , more specifically,
(OOC: Those two resolutions do not mean that a nation has to allow all its citizens access to WA resolutions. The government itself has to read the resolution, and the people cannot be punished for reading, but there is nothing stopping a government from classifying all WA resolutions, making it impossible for a normal member of society to know of them.)
by Kenmoria » Sat Sep 08, 2018 3:49 am
Bears Armed wrote:Kenmoria wrote:
(OOC: Those two resolutions do not mean that a nation has to allow all its citizens access to WA resolutions. The government itself has to read the resolution, and the people cannot be punished for reading, but there is nothing stopping a government from classifying all WA resolutions, making it impossible for a normal member of society to know of them.)
(OOC: however resolutions take effect within member nations as part of those nations' own law-codes, and there's already a resolution saying that those have to be made publicly available...)
by Wallenburg » Sat Sep 08, 2018 8:14 am
Kenmoria wrote:Imperium Anglorum wrote:Sucks.
The government has to read the resolution. viewtopic.php?f=9&t=30&p=4026148&hilit=read#p4026148
And bans on reading are prohibited by WA legislation, viewtopic.php?f=9&t=30&p=13323627&hilit=read#p13323627 , more specifically,
(OOC: Those two resolutions do not mean that a nation has to allow all its citizens access to WA resolutions. The government itself has to read the resolution, and the people cannot be punished for reading, but there is nothing stopping a government from classifying all WA resolutions, making it impossible for a normal member of society to know of them.)
by Imperium Anglorum » Sat Sep 08, 2018 2:36 pm
Kenmoria wrote:(OOC: Those two resolutions do not mean that a nation has to allow all its citizens access to WA resolutions. The government itself has to read the resolution, and the people cannot be punished for reading, but there is nothing stopping a government from classifying all WA resolutions, making it impossible for a normal member of society to know of them.)
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