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Hessere
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Postby Hessere » Thu Jun 28, 2018 2:12 pm

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Hehateu wrote:Are you purposely being ironic? There's no freedom of anything in the security council. It is made up of a bunch of fascists who think they know better than everybody else even tho they failed at playing nationstates. I spit on all of you


We're just looking out for the natives, their region, and their self-determination.

But a liberation doesn't necessarily mean your occupying government has to leave. Technically you have the power to stay there, build influence, and crush the spirit of the natives as long as you want to. The liberation simply prevents you from putting up a password. (And by the way, it also prevents the natives/defenders from putting up a password.) And that may give the natives enough hope to get organized with some defenders and take back their region. Maybe. The war could theoretically go on forever. The liberation levels the playing field so that it becomes a war of resolve.

So who has more resolve? Your people who have laid claim to the land or the natives who want their land back? Only time will tell...

I do hope you understand the reasons and motives behind these liberations.
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Postby Forestavia » Thu Jun 28, 2018 7:36 pm

Hessere wrote:I do hope you understand the reasons and motives behind these liberations.


I would hope that the motives for this particular liberation are for the best interests of the native residents of the region known as Boston. That's my only motivation. Therefore, I am in favor of the resolution before us. I feel that the Security Council has acted wisely in this instance.

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Postby Conquerus » Fri Jun 29, 2018 1:41 am

Hehateu wrote:Are you purposely being ironic? There's no freedom of anything in the security council. It is made up of a bunch of fascists who think they know better than everybody else even tho they failed at playing nationstates. I spit on all of you

Hehateu, you are being very aggressive towards most of the people here. Please stop. You are not making it any better for yourself or for The Invaders. If you wish to speak here, please be respectful to everyone, and they will be respectful back. Thank you.
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Postby Conquerme » Fri Jun 29, 2018 3:43 am

Conquerus wrote:
Hehateu wrote:Are you purposely being ironic? There's no freedom of anything in the security council. It is made up of a bunch of fascists who think they know better than everybody else even tho they failed at playing nationstates. I spit on all of you

Hehateu, you are being very aggressive towards most of the people here. Please stop. You are not making it any better for yourself or for The Invaders. If you wish to speak here, please be respectful to everyone, and they will be respectful back. Thank you.

I agree. You are doing more damage than fixes. We need to try to be respectful, that does not help.

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Postby All Wild Things » Fri Jun 29, 2018 7:41 am

Forestavia wrote:I commend the Security Council for looking after native rights and properly using the liberation. The occupying government of Boston is ejecting people. This is clearly a situation the requires intervention by the world government. I'm voting in favor.

I like your sentiments, but I'm not convinced that Boston had a native population, even before any ejections started. It seems that this Liberation is solely for the purpose of tarring these raiders as associates of Nazis.

It is meant as a form of punishment. It doesn't Liberate like the resolution did for Belgium. It creates a warzone out of Boston.

In my opinion, the raiders are lame and indecisive, and not worth an SC resolution. However, it seems most delegates think something different to me.
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Postby Uncastania » Fri Jun 29, 2018 8:50 am

To tell you the truth, I'm still a bit confused about why Boston should or shouldn't be liberated. As far as I understood the "owner" left and thus the realm came to be free loot. And by this I, at least think, mean is that it wasn't hijacked FROM the rulers. In those cases I've voted yes, but in this case I seem to be.. indecisive. Citing that nazi/fascist regionism isn't cool in a game where we play out our fantasies (to a certain point), I fail to see why Boston should be liberated. The way I see it is like Poland would have said "screw it" and let anyone to take charge instead of becoming a target for hostile forces.

I mean, English isn't my native language and all that. Am I missing something important here?
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Postby Terra Voltera » Fri Jun 29, 2018 9:02 am

Liberate Boston was passed 13,494 votes to 1,552.
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Postby Cosmopolitan borovan » Fri Jun 29, 2018 10:14 am

Uncastania wrote:To tell you the truth, I'm still a bit confused about why Boston should or shouldn't be liberated. As far as I understood the "owner" left and thus the realm came to be free loot. And by this I, at least think, mean is that it wasn't hijacked FROM the rulers. In those cases I've voted yes, but in this case I seem to be.. indecisive. Citing that nazi/fascist regionism isn't cool in a game where we play out our fantasies (to a certain point), I fail to see why Boston should be liberated. The way I see it is like Poland would have said "screw it" and let anyone to take charge instead of becoming a target for hostile forces.

I mean, English isn't my native language and all that. Am I missing something important here?

Founderless regions r easily let up to be raided. If u leave it founderless the region should not be entitled to more rights just because it is founderless.

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Postby Hehateu » Fri Jun 29, 2018 1:40 pm

Another "liberation" that did nothing but hurt my native rights.

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Postby Hemuraile » Fri Jun 29, 2018 8:10 pm

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Hehateu
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Postby Hehateu » Sat Jun 30, 2018 6:37 am

That's a pretty racist response. You could never be a native because you come from somewhere else basically the wrong skin color eh???Typical racist security council. Still in Boston btw. So much winning.And lol at your founded date.multi account much? Hope they ban you.
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Postby Terra Voltera » Sat Jun 30, 2018 6:59 am

Hehateu wrote:That's a pretty racist response. You could never be a native because you come from somewhere else basically the wrong skin color eh???Typical racist security council. Still in Boston btw. So much winning.And lol at your founded date.multi account much? Hope they ban you.

Having multiple nations is perfectly within the rules, as long as you only have one WA nation. As to your other remarks, I have no idea how you can compare NS regional nativism to RL racism, so please just stop.
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Postby Ransium » Sat Jun 30, 2018 7:03 am

This thread has gone of the rails, I’m archiving now.

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