[PASSED] Liberate Boston

[Isvataan]

I'll vote for this liberation because its an real one of where raiders raided a region.

However, I don't see why the need of stopping Nazi/fascists was stated here. I would of said stop raiding all together, regadless what ideaology the raiders possess (which honestly don't care and like their beliefs, i'm more concern about the annoyance that raiders impose to nationstates)

[Hehateu]

I have a dream. A dream where the region I've settled can be called my own. I've crossed the desert to start a new life in Boston. You all seem to want to put up a wall and say Boston can't be my home. Well it is. We all came from somewhere else. You seem to support the idea of racially pure natives. This sickens me. I deserve Boston. Stop this liberation. Stop this attack on The Invaders. We just want to live in peace in our chosen homeland.

[Malphe]

I have a dream. A dream where the region I've settled can be called my own. I've crossed the desert to start a new life in Boston. You all seem to want to put up a wall and say Boston can't be my home. Well it is. We all came from somewhere else. You seem to support the idea of racially pure natives. This sickens me. I deserve Boston. Stop this liberation. Stop this attack on The Invaders. We just want to live in peace in our chosen homeland.

Oh knock it off with the pretending to be a native gimmick, you might actually fool somebody.

[Tupelope]

I have a dream. A dream where the region I've settled can be called my own. I've crossed the desert to start a new life in Boston. You all seem to want to put up a wall and say Boston can't be my home. Well it is. We all came from somewhere else. You seem to support the idea of racially pure natives. This sickens me. I deserve Boston. Stop this liberation. Stop this attack on The Invaders. We just want to live in peace in our chosen homeland.

from the tme lib: No we are lawful residents who need to protect our new homeland from those who call themselves defenders (who come from other regions and try to force their way of life on others). Please just let us be.we are the natives and don't need your help.
but then later u say
No one cares about that crap region. Fendas couldn't even liberate it. Lmao

man u sure care lots about ur regions ur occupying

[RPRA Techcorp]

Oh, oh, are we playing "spot the subversive" now?? Let's see... the guy that keeps trying to defend a blacklisted raiding group is talking about being a native....

Guys, I think I spotted the subversive! Also, voted in favor of the liberation.

[Conquerme]

Then why is it being used as an argument against us? You can't just agree that it is factually incorrect, then try to use it as a weapon.

Where have you been called nazi spec.?
[quote]

The entire liberation attempt. The whole thing is incorrectly based on us being fascists. This would make the liberation a completely flawed cause.

[Sopporion]

Where have you been called nazi spec.?

The entire liberation attempt. The whole thing is incorrectly based on us being fascists. This would make the liberation a completely flawed cause.

Did you read the resolution?

[Aresin]

I have a dream. A dream where the region I've settled can be called my own. I've crossed the desert to start a new life in Boston. You all seem to want to put up a wall and say Boston can't be my home. Well it is. We all came from somewhere else. You seem to support the idea of racially pure natives. This sickens me. I deserve Boston. Stop this liberation. Stop this attack on The Invaders. We just want to live in peace in our chosen homeland.

from the tme lib: No we are lawful residents who need to protect our new homeland from those who call themselves defenders (who come from other regions and try to force their way of life on others). Please just let us be.we are the natives and don't need your help.
but then later u say
No one cares about that crap region. Fendas couldn't even liberate it. Lmao

man u sure care lots about ur regions ur occupying

Wow, more anti-immigration sentiments from the security council. What a shock. You know why he said TME was crap? Because you "liberators" destroyed it, for everyone! And you all have the audacity to call us fascists! Well, who here is discriminating against others just for the regions they were once in?

[Kurnugia]

Where have you been called nazi spec.?

The entire liberation attempt. The whole thing is incorrectly based on us being fascists. This would make the liberation a completely flawed cause.

What do you not understand with a coalition of regions? Noone said that TDP was fashie. Rather that, and this was true for the time of the submission, that one member of this raid (KAISERREICH) is.

I deserve Boston.

Nw. You are about to get what you deserve

[Conquerme]

Where have you been called nazi spec.?

What do you not understand with a coalition of regions? Noone said that TDP was fashie. Rather that, and this was true for the time of the submission, that one member of this raid (KAISERREICH) is.

I deserve Boston.

Nw. You are about to get what you deserve

The entire liberation is heavily over exaggerating this lie. We are not fascists, nor is KREICH participating now. This makes the liberation a lie built upon more lies.

[Kurnugia]

What do you not understand with a coalition of regions? Noone said that TDP was fashie. Rather that, and this was true for the time of the submission, that one member of this raid (KAISERREICH) is.


Nw. You are about to get what you deserve

The entire liberation is heavily over exaggerating this lie. We are not fascists, nor is KREICH participating now. This makes the liberation a lie built upon more lies.

"Now"

and this was true for the time of the submission,

They were there when this was still submitted. And: If you cannot kick fashies as soon as you noticed them, it's not our problem.

And again: n-o-o-n-e c-l-a-i-m-e-d t-h-a-t y-o-u a-r-e f-a-s-c-i-s-t

[Conquerme]

The entire liberation is heavily over exaggerating this lie. We are not fascists, nor is KREICH participating now. This makes the liberation a lie built upon more lies.

"Now"

and this was true for the time of the submission,

They were there when this was still submitted. And: If you cannot kick fashies as soon as you noticed them, it's not our problem.

And again: n-o-o-n-e c-l-a-i-m-e-d t-h-a-t y-o-u a-r-e f-a-s-c-i-s-t

You do not understand. Kicking them all out would cost much influence. Plus, defender puppets had started rolling in. Our main priority was regional control.

And many people are voting for this. The resolution is written in a present tense arguing that we are as of now letting fascists into Boston. Which is untrue. This makes the liberation untrue. And not worthy of light.

T-H-E-R-E-S-O-L-U-T-I-O-N-I-S-G-A-R-B-A-G-E

[Jabberwocky]

This proposal has my unstinting support.

[Drop Your Pants]

Our main priority was regional control.

You valued control and influence over kicking out fash WA's? Any other raider force would have kicked them the moment they spotted them.

[Conquerme]

Our main priority was regional control.

You valued control and influence over kicking out fash WA's? Any other raider force would have kicked them the moment they spotted them.

They are long gone now. And seriously, the resolution makes it appear as if we are presently harboring fascists. We are not. Therefore, the liberation should be null and void.

Plus, we are RAIDERS. Our main priority would be to....raid. Whether or not there are fascists is something we would dwell on later.

[Hemuraile]

Against due to overinflated details and the proposal’s fragile flesh.

(hi https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1051303)

[Prydania]

Once again Hemuraile puts in a whole lot of effort to defend fascists within this game.

[The American Peoples Federal Republic]

This is a crazy vote and a complete waste of time.

[T E Lawrence]

Full support.

[Hemuraile]

Once again Hemuraile puts in a whole lot of effort to defend fascists within this game.

Thanks for your commentary, Pryd, but the dispatch was for defending TDP, which I’m pretty sure has been repeatedly said to not be fascist. Unless you were referring to the one sentence (not even, just a fragment in parenthesis) and the quotes whenever I referred to KR as the “Nazi/fascist”.

(Let’s save the biannual KR ideology thread exploder for another thread)

[Prydania]

Once again Hemuraile puts in a whole lot of effort to defend fascists within this game.

Thanks for your commentary, Pryd, but the dispatch was for defending TDP, which I’m pretty sure has been repeatedly said to not be fascist. Unless you were referring to the one sentence (not even, just a fragment in parenthesis) and the quotes whenever I referred to KR as the “Nazi/fascist”.

I mean what's there to defend with TDP? They're raiders. I don't see this as a bad thing, in and of itself. I find the raider/defender argument to be both tiring and pointless. They're just two ways to play the game.
And guess what? The SC is part of the game! So again, let's separate the Nazi stuff from this, and look at it objectively.

TDP raided a region. People opposed to TDP raiding said region are lobbying the SC for help. And they managed to get that help, if the vote is any indication.
So I have to ask. Where's the outrage? Why should I feel TDP deserves to be "defended"? They raided, which is fine in and of itself. Then defenders managed to use the SC to fight back. So what? The game is working as intended.

(Let’s save the biannual KR ideology thread exploder for another thread)

You overestimate yourself. The KR thing seems to have been settled.
I just find it interesting that your last few notable dispatches have been defending Nazis and fascists. Out of all of the resolutions the WA passes, the ones that take aim at Nazis and fascists are the ones that drive you to "action."

[Hemuraile]

I mean what's there to defend with TDP? They're raiders. I don't see this as a bad thing, in and of itself. I find the raider/defender argument to be both tiring and pointless. They're just two ways to play the game.
And guess what? The SC is part of the game! So again, let's separate the Nazi stuff from this, and look at it objectively.

I wasn’t defending TDP in the raider/defender argument, I was defending TDP on how the liberation holds a very distorted view against TDP when it came to how much KR was participating, which made it seem like an active collaboration between TDP and KR when really one was uninvited and was eventually kicked out; and how apparently one formerly involved region being “Nazi” made Boston, when fully taken, a Nazi trophy. I wasn’t defending the practice of raiding, but defending TDP from distorted claims.

TDP raided a region. People opposed to TDP raiding said region are lobbying the SC for help. And they managed to get that help, if the vote is any indication.

With a pinch of misinformation.

So I have to ask. Where's the outrage? Why should I feel TDP deserves to be "defended"? They raided, which is fine in and of itself. Then defenders managed to use the SC to fight back. So what? The game is working as intended.

Because of distorted claims levied against TDP to draw support.

You overestimate yourself. The KR thing seems to have been settled.
I just find it interesting that your last few notable dispatches have been defending Nazis and fascists. Out of all of the resolutions the WA passes, the ones that take aim at Nazis and fascists are the ones that drive you to "action."

I check the SC time to time (GA isn’t my type) and usually it’s a commendation, repeals of resolutions passed before me, or liberations that I haven’t bothered to investigate, like TME.

During my second try at Edition 2, I was targeting a TCB condemnation by someone from The Iron Fortress, which the author tried to start some laughable revolution of the democratic, liberatarians, religious, fascists, and Nazis. Abandoned it since people knew that this was going to get shut down quick and be forgotten in a week, and I didn’t think it needed more attention when it’s fate was sealed.

[Conquerus]

Full support.

Wait...what!?

[Hemuraile]

Full support.

Wait...what!?

It be your own people sometimes.

[Conquerme]

Full support.

Wait...what!?

It....is...not possible...well, there goes TDP.