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by United States of Americanas » Fri Aug 03, 2018 4:20 pm
by Wallenburg » Fri Aug 03, 2018 4:26 pm
United States of Americanas wrote:PER THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICANAS ALL SPEECH IS FREE. THIS LAW VIOLATES THE FIRST AMENDMENT AND AS SUCH SHALL BE STRICKEN FROM THE RECORDS.
Rights And Duties Of WA States wrote:Every WA Member State has the duty to carry out in good faith its obligations arising from treaties and other sources of international law, including this World Assembly, and it may not invoke provisions in its constitution or its laws as an excuse for failure to perform this duty.
by Tinhampton » Fri Aug 03, 2018 5:00 pm
United States of Americanas wrote:this draconian controlling law that allows countries to step on its citizens rights.
by United States of Americanas » Sat Aug 04, 2018 5:11 pm
Tinhampton wrote:United States of Americanas wrote:this draconian controlling law that allows countries to step on its citizens rights.
GA#436 only "Permits" its members to regulate free expression, rather than mandate it. From my understanding, it is totally legal to not impose any regulations on free expression in one's country - beyond that required by other GA resolutions - whilst still complying with GA#436.
by Frisbeeteria » Sat Aug 04, 2018 5:15 pm
United States of Americanas wrote:Wallenburg on the other hand shall remain blocked.
If you’re gonna go acting like a suit from a new world order forcing everyone to act your way then you can fuck off in my book!
by United States of Americanas » Sat Aug 04, 2018 5:16 pm
Frisbeeteria wrote:United States of Americanas wrote:Wallenburg on the other hand shall remain blocked.
If you’re gonna go acting like a suit from a new world order forcing everyone to act your way then you can fuck off in my book!
Blocking is the appropriate action. Telling someone to fuck off is *** flaming ***, and you are warned accordingly.
by Frisbeeteria » Sat Aug 04, 2018 5:23 pm
United States of Americanas wrote:If the WA it’s self has a problem with how my government is run then the WA administrators themselves can either contact me or eject my nation from the WA. But I shall not have some no name diplomat from another nation who isn’t a WA staffer ordering how I shall run my country!
The WA FAQ wrote:What's the World Assembly?
The World Assembly is the world's governing body. It's your chance to mold the world to your vision, by voting for resolutions you like and scuttling the rest. However, it's a double-edged sword, because your nation will be affected by any resolutions that pass. (Unfortunately you can't obey the resolutions you like and ignore the rest.) In other words, it's a hot-bed of political intrigue and double-dealing.
by Aclion » Sat Aug 04, 2018 5:31 pm
Wallenburg wrote:United States of Americanas wrote:PER THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICANAS ALL SPEECH IS FREE. THIS LAW VIOLATES THE FIRST AMENDMENT AND AS SUCH SHALL BE STRICKEN FROM THE RECORDS.Rights And Duties Of WA States wrote:Every WA Member State has the duty to carry out in good faith its obligations arising from treaties and other sources of international law, including this World Assembly, and it may not invoke provisions in its constitution or its laws as an excuse for failure to perform this duty.
No, you won't.
by Greater vakolicci haven » Sat Aug 04, 2018 5:53 pm
Frisbeeteria wrote:United States of Americanas wrote:If the WA it’s self has a problem with how my government is run then the WA administrators themselves can either contact me or eject my nation from the WA. But I shall not have some no name diplomat from another nation who isn’t a WA staffer ordering how I shall run my country!
The "no name diplomat" was simply informing you of how the game works. See the WA FAQ and GAR #2 for the reasons:The WA FAQ wrote:What's the World Assembly?
The World Assembly is the world's governing body. It's your chance to mold the world to your vision, by voting for resolutions you like and scuttling the rest. However, it's a double-edged sword, because your nation will be affected by any resolutions that pass. (Unfortunately you can't obey the resolutions you like and ignore the rest.) In other words, it's a hot-bed of political intrigue and double-dealing.
WA membership is not mandatory, but once you join, compliance is assumed to be mandatory. Nobody is going to eject you for failure to comply, but you can expect quite a bit of negative feedback when you announce your non-compliance. Or you can resign. Either way, you need to get off your high horse about it.
by Separatist Peoples » Sat Aug 04, 2018 6:06 pm
United States of Americanas wrote:Thanks for your polite reply. Wallenburg on the other hand shall remain blocked.
by Greater vakolicci haven » Sat Aug 04, 2018 6:14 pm
Separatist Peoples wrote:United States of Americanas wrote:Thanks for your polite reply. Wallenburg on the other hand shall remain blocked.
OOC: I promise you, Wallenburg won't feel like he's missing out. Nor would any of the rest of the regulars here. We don't care for noncompliant roleplay of this kind. It isn't interesting or original, its just obstructionist. If you don't like a law, find a loophole you can exploit in good faith, repeal it, or resign from the WA. Noncompliance is only tolerated when done with skill and creativity, and even then only barely.
by Azadistan-land of the free » Sun Aug 05, 2018 6:33 am
by Premiora » Sun Aug 05, 2018 7:31 am
Azadistan-land of the free wrote:Would hate speech come under the defamation exception?
by Liberimery » Mon Aug 06, 2018 5:07 am
by Azadistan-land of the free » Mon Aug 06, 2018 6:05 am
Liberimery wrote:Premiora wrote:
I believe so if the hate speech has no direct impact on the publicity / reputation of the target. If not then I believe not.
Interesting little legal read. I'd like to see a likely scenario.
I would say that this doesn't cover hate crimes (i.e. If you can prove that protected status was a motivator of criminal actions, you can charge a hate crime charge on top of regular criminal charges. But just calling someone a slur does not count). It also does not nullify discrimination in hiring or admissions or work place practices.
by Separatist Peoples » Mon Aug 06, 2018 8:10 am
Azadistan-land of the free wrote:Liberimery wrote:
Interesting little legal read. I'd like to see a likely scenario.
I would say that this doesn't cover hate crimes (i.e. If you can prove that protected status was a motivator of criminal actions, you can charge a hate crime charge on top of regular criminal charges. But just calling someone a slur does not count). It also does not nullify discrimination in hiring or admissions or work place practices.
The article did say defamation and interfering with a fair trial are not protected free speech and thats what hate crime is.
by Greater vakolicci haven » Mon Aug 06, 2018 8:28 am
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