[DEFEATED] Condemn The League Of Conservative Nations

[Izvbard]

Condemnations should not be handed out like candy to children. In this case , it seems the author has some sort of grudge against said region. It has no place in the SC

Firmly against

[Furry Things]

If you can provide some sort of evidence, I might consider this proposal. Until then, I can't see voting anything other than against. If this fails and you resubmit it at a later date, I'll consider it again, but it would still need evidence for me to do so.

[The Sakhalinsk Empire]

Considering all of the evidence from the LCN and the falsified "Evidence" against them, I'll vote against this proposal and I'll encourage others to do the same.

[Matthewstownville]

Furthermore I do feel that that the condemnation lacks a defined point. It's rather all over the place. First it mentions the apparent threats, trolling, and invasions that are happening and then goes off into a tangent about a government official modifying a party. If you're going to bring up multiple separate points, they need to be better defined and organized for cohesiveness.

That's probably because the author is grasping at straws. Looks like the objective of this proposal is to slap a condemn on the LCN because the author doesn't like it, despite there not really being any need for a condemn.

Exactly why we aren't in the futile business of condemning any nation or region..

[Unified Empiricus]

If one needed a definition of propaganda, this would probably be it. If trolling people causes "instability", its clear the Government of the complaining region is totally incompetent. Not a shred of evidence to support a single claim made.

What a stupid waste of time for the SC, and why it was approved in the first place is beyond me.

[Floydrose]

Although we sympathize with the tone of the proposal put forth by the right-honourable National Convention of Crimsonfield, threats are a diplomatic tool which unfortunately get used far too often.

However, deeds are a different matter. As such, unless and until such activity actually were to transpire, we in Skell and in Floydrose in particular vote not to condemn but instead suggest this attention will prevent any future hostilities from The League of Conservative Nations.

[Fauxia]

This sort of trash is why people don’t take the Security Council seriously

[Agarntrop]

No evidence of trolling

Threatening invasions is not against WA policy and the only evidence you have for that is minimal evidence about YOUR OWN REIGON!

Because the ONLY example OF ANYTHING is your OWN REGION it simply obvious this is about trying to win over the LCN in some sort of rivalry.

Your just condemning it NOT CONDEMNING IT OF ANYTHING SPECIFIC, which is probably ISN'T EVEN LEGAL!

Need I say more?

AGAINST

[Jabberwocky]

Sounds like a personal vendetta. Against

[LiberNovusAmericae]

A region being non-democratic- assuming this is the case- isn't enough for a condemnation. This proposal also cites no examples of trolling; Good WA condemnation proposals usually explain a region's wrongs in detail; This proposal is also ridiculously short. I don't understand how this even came to a vote. I vote AGAINST this proposal.

[Notovasian Tsardom]

This isn't even CLOSE to what an actual condemnation should look like. A such, I shall vote AGAINST this horrid proposal.

[Agarntrop]

This is just a tool by the evil UCN bullies to undermine their LCN victims.

[Layem]

This is just a tool by the evil UCN bullies to undermine their LCN victims.

Both Regions are irrelevant and both harass and troll each other. You should see their discords. "The inferior region of UCN will not stomp on the superiority of the LCN!-" blah blah blah. Just an attention thing on the UCN's side with the LCN getting benefit. Both regions are loving it despite the outcome.

[Malphe]

Just an attention thing on the UCN's side with the LCN getting benefit. Both regions are loving it despite the outcome.

Yes, this is a condemnation.

[Quebecshire]

This is just a tool by the evil UCN bullies to undermine their LCN victims.

Both Regions are irrelevant and both harass and troll each other. You should see their discords. "The inferior region of UCN will not stomp on the superiority of the LCN!-" blah blah blah. Just an attention thing on the UCN's side with the LCN getting benefit. Both regions are loving it despite the outcome.

Unless my Discord searching isn't working, the quote you just cited doesn't exist.

I would be surprised to find you able to find quotes on our Discord since you're banned, and as someone (Assuming Maur has access to the Layem account, I thought he did) who was spamming "Hail the LCN" or something like that, with the justification of "Sorry, I like getting involved in Ns drama lol" I do not know if you're exactly an authority on the topic.

Additionally, if you think its all irrelevant and stupid, I don't know why you (as one of the delegates who approved this) contributed to this waste of time being sent to the World Assembly.

[ChristendomV2]

The nation of ChristendomV2 notes the lack of specific examples or evidence in the proposal to support its assertions. Until such evidence is provided, this resolution must be regarded as not as a legitimate resolution, but as a petty and vengeful attack on a region. The nation of ChristendomV2, as a matter of principle, must vote against the resolution.

[Kaboomlandia]

BRB banging my head against a wall that this crap got to quorum.

[Azadistan-land of the free]

Noting the League of Conservative nations calls itself a conservative democracy, dedicated at preserving conservatism in NS.

Understanding the countless regions that have fallen due to League of Conservative nations intrusion causing instability for the sake of there own recruiting program.

Believing that the use of trolling and espionage against a sovereign region is distasteful.

Accepting that fact that the League of Conservative has prevented stability, security, and peace in the United Conservative Nations. Attempting to bring about the regions demise as a new conservative power.

Condemning the League of Conservative Nations for the above statements.

Proposal idea A

Azadistan supports this condemnation as it has experienced right-wing agression as well.
They will ally themselves with any Islamic nation that joins in condemning this people.

[Layem]

Just an attention thing on the UCN's side with the LCN getting benefit. Both regions are loving it despite the outcome.

Yes, this is a condemnation.

It doesn't exactly matter thats its a condemnation. Won't stop people from knowing what the LCN is and gaining members.

[Layem]

Both Regions are irrelevant and both harass and troll each other. You should see their discords. "The inferior region of UCN will not stomp on the superiority of the LCN!-" blah blah blah. Just an attention thing on the UCN's side with the LCN getting benefit. Both regions are loving it despite the outcome.

Unless my Discord searching isn't working, the quote you just cited doesn't exist.

I would be surprised to find you able to find quotes on our Discord since you're banned, and as someone (Assuming Maur has access to the Layem account, I thought he did) who was spamming "Hail the LCN" or something like that, with the justification of "Sorry, I like getting involved in Ns drama lol" I do not know if you're exactly an authority on the topic.

Additionally, if you think its all irrelevant and stupid, I don't know why you (as one of the delegates who approved this) contributed to this waste of time being sent to the World Assembly.

The "Sorry I like getting involved in NS drama lol" was a joke?" I'm pretty sure the screenshot showed you lol-ing back to it. And I DO think it's irrelevant, but i'm merely voicing my opinion as I am a delegate of a pretty big WA region. Sorry I'm doing so.

[Quebecshire]

Unless my Discord searching isn't working, the quote you just cited doesn't exist.

I would be surprised to find you able to find quotes on our Discord since you're banned, and as someone (Assuming Maur has access to the Layem account, I thought he did) who was spamming "Hail the LCN" or something like that, with the justification of "Sorry, I like getting involved in Ns drama lol" I do not know if you're exactly an authority on the topic.

Additionally, if you think its all irrelevant and stupid, I don't know why you (as one of the delegates who approved this) contributed to this waste of time being sent to the World Assembly.

The "Sorry I like getting involved in NS drama lol" was a joke?" I'm pretty sure the screenshot showed you lol-ing back to it. And I DO think it's irrelevant, but i'm merely voicing my opinion as I am a delegate of a pretty big WA region. Sorry I'm doing so.

You have every right to do so, and you're not wrong.

This attempted action by the UCN against the LCN has helped us if anything, I have no problems admitting that. Most everything done against our region by Nagarno and his has either made us more united or benefitted us in another way.

[Tinhampton]

This is just a tool by the evil UCN bullies to undermine their LCN victims.

Yeah, I think I can take your word on that one.

2 hours ago: The Republic of Agarntrop submitted a proposal to the Security Council Condemnation Board entitled "Condemn United Conservative Nations".

Recognises the UCN trolls other regions, such as the League of Conservative Nations, by advocating and organising a resolution condemning the LCN with no legitimate evidence and a mindset of undermining and bullying the UCN in callous ways.

Affirms That the UCN engages in attempting to undermine regions it sees as rivals, the evidence being the condemnation proposal which undermines the LCN which in turn attempts to forment civil strife in the LCN.

Argues That, if this resolution is passed, trolling will become rarer as nations and regions will be dettered from trolling as they may receive a condemnation from the security council

HEREBY CONDEMNS the United Conservative Nations of trolling.

HEREBY CONDEMNS the United Conservative Nations of undermining other regions.

[Mordheimar]

Fellow delegates, I am appalled by this resolution. If comrade Crimsonfield has an issue with the LCN then he needs to deal with it in some way other than tactless accusations against them brought before this august body. Due to a lack of any proof the nation of Mordheim shall vote against this resolution. We also suggest some form of sanctions against anyone bring such baseless resolutions before this assembly.

[Isvataan]

Just waiting for over half of the delegates to vote for this (like in kasier except that was a "liberation")

I wouldn't be surprised :/

[New Min]

Fellow delegates, I am appalled by this resolution. If comrade Crimsonfield has an issue with the LCN then he needs to deal with it in some way other than tactless accusations against them brought before this august body. Due to a lack of any proof the nation of Mordheim shall vote against this resolution. We also suggest some form of sanctions against anyone bring such baseless resolutions before this assembly.

Putting sanctions on submitting a proposal to the GA or the SC would be a direct threat to its democracy.
We have the Security Council Secretariat to decide whether or not a proposal is legal, and a proposal needs a certain number of approvals before it is being brought to vote to keep stupid proposals away.

I agree that the author has not provided any evidence backing up the accusations (even after I personally asked him to do so on Discord), but punishing him is just absolutely wrong.