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by Caracasus » Wed May 23, 2018 6:58 am
by Uinted Communist of Africa » Wed May 23, 2018 7:00 am
by New Ex Patria » Wed May 23, 2018 7:30 am
Violent Mob wrote:#2 Notes that the Communist Bloc has assumed the role of thought police on NationStates
Violent Mob wrote:#5 Notes the breaches of religious rights to all religions
by Agarntrop » Wed May 23, 2018 7:53 am
This resolution hereby condemns The Communist Bloc of state-sponsored terrorism
by Cedoria » Wed May 23, 2018 8:08 am
Comlogical wrote:Hey, look at this:
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1031476
Literally rofl'ing at this rn
by Cedoria » Wed May 23, 2018 8:11 am
Caracasus wrote:Eh, I started out in The Communist Bloc, and while I've not been a resident there for a few years now, the place I remember bears zero resemblance to these baseless accusations. It was (and I assume still broadly is) a decent region with some nice people in it. Aside from a couple of standard spats that you'd find on any RMB, it was a pretty relaxed environment. I even remember (and this would have been quite a while ago now) a reasonably lengthy conversation regarding religion and revolutionary theology - rather discounting the whole "stifles religion" aspect.
Apart from the sentences that quite literally make no sense (I think you mean attributes, not contributes in #4) none of the points hold water if you were to do something as simple as check out the target region - something I'd urge folks to do. They're a decent bunch really. The formatting, content and lack of basic proofreading leaves me amazed this made it to vote.
Quite frankly if the author's region has set itself up as some sort of NS bastion against the red menace and this is the best that can be put together, we might as well break out the red flags and save up some labour vouchers for party supplies.
by Ithreland » Wed May 23, 2018 8:26 am
Violent Mob wrote:This resolution is authored by Violent Mob and is now in queue and next up:HEREBY SUBMITTED AS A TESTAMENT OF THE OVERWHELMING OPINION OF THE WORLD ASSEMBLY
This resolution does the following
Affirming that by passing this resolution the religious regions of the World Assembly will be indebted to the Security Council and the World Assembly (emphasis mine)
by Ransium » Wed May 23, 2018 9:22 am
Ithreland wrote:
My region isn't specifically religious, but a number of us within it are. We would prefer that yourstupidityinanity not involve us.
by Taviana SSR » Wed May 23, 2018 10:36 am
by Caracasus » Wed May 23, 2018 10:39 am
Marksista wrote:This is just anti-leftist propaganda.
Taviana SSR wrote:Never shall this imperialist legislation be forced upon us!!! If it should pass, we together with our region will leave the reactionary WA.
by West Leas Oros » Wed May 23, 2018 10:40 am
Cedoria wrote:Comlogical wrote:Hey, look at this:
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1031476
Literally rofl'ing at this rn
And anyone who thinks Barry is a Socialist has never read one of his books, or heard him elaborate on his political positions before.
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:Oros, no. Please. You were the chosen one. You were meant to debunk the tankies, not join them. Bring balance to the left, not leave it in darkness.
WLO Public News: Protest turns violent as Orosian Anarchists burn building. 2 found dead, 8 injured. Investigation continues.
by West Leas Oros » Wed May 23, 2018 10:42 am
Taviana SSR wrote:Never shall this imperialist legislation be forced upon us!!! If it should pass, we together with our region will leave the reactionary WA.
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:Oros, no. Please. You were the chosen one. You were meant to debunk the tankies, not join them. Bring balance to the left, not leave it in darkness.
WLO Public News: Protest turns violent as Orosian Anarchists burn building. 2 found dead, 8 injured. Investigation continues.
by Hessere » Wed May 23, 2018 10:43 am
Agarntrop wrote:I would vote for this but I found this:This resolution hereby condemns The Communist Bloc of state-sponsored terrorism
Which simply isn't true so I'm voting against.
by Marksista » Wed May 23, 2018 10:56 am
by Joushiki Nante Iranai » Wed May 23, 2018 11:11 am
While also saying:This resolution condemns The Communist Bloc as engaging in silencing opinions and ideas that do not conform to their own
And finally:Recognizing that The Communist Bloc must be reminded of its place, as a region of equal standing with any other , and this resolution will permanently remind them of the harm they caused to their fellow regions
Recognizing that the World Assembly is the haven of free thought by which sovereign nations have the right of expression, and condemns The Communist Bloc of cravenly violating its hallowed halls
by West Leas Oros » Wed May 23, 2018 11:29 am
Joushiki Nante Iranai wrote:Apparently, the person putting this up to vote is a Fascist. How ironic.
However, what's even more ironic is the fact they say:While also saying:This resolution condemns The Communist Bloc as engaging in silencing opinions and ideas that do not conform to their ownAnd finally:Recognizing that The Communist Bloc must be reminded of its place, as a region of equal standing with any other , and this resolution will permanently remind them of the harm they caused to their fellow regionsRecognizing that the World Assembly is the haven of free thought by which sovereign nations have the right of expression, and condemns The Communist Bloc of cravenly violating its hallowed halls
I am clearly Against this resolution.
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:Oros, no. Please. You were the chosen one. You were meant to debunk the tankies, not join them. Bring balance to the left, not leave it in darkness.
WLO Public News: Protest turns violent as Orosian Anarchists burn building. 2 found dead, 8 injured. Investigation continues.
by Razzle Dazzle » Wed May 23, 2018 12:15 pm
New Ex Patria wrote:I don't remember the last time I had my thoughts suppressed by TCB.
Eluvatar wrote:Back in my day, we endotarted up-hill both ways in the snow! #DiscordsAreLazy
by Krennia » Wed May 23, 2018 1:39 pm
by Xekland » Wed May 23, 2018 5:12 pm
West Leas Oros wrote:Joushiki Nante Iranai wrote:Apparently, the person putting this up to vote is a Fascist. How ironic.
However, what's even more ironic is the fact they say: While also saying: And finally:
I am clearly Against this resolution.
Are we seriously turning this into another Antifa circlejerk?
by Karathi » Wed May 23, 2018 5:13 pm
Cedoria wrote:HEREBY SUBMITTED AS A TESTAMENT OF THE OVERWHELMING OPINION OF THE WORLD ASSEMBLY
This resolution does the following
#1 Notes that The Communist Bloc has contributed to the death of democratic regions and right wing regions.
#2 Notes that the Communist Bloc has assumed the role of thought police on NationStates
#3 Recognizes the danger of the spread of the undemocratic and in-humane ideology of Communism throughout the World Assembly
#4 Contributes the fall of glorious regions of peace and democracy to the Communist Bloc
#5 Notes the breaches of religious rights to all religions
Notes the history of civil liberties and rights abuse by the Communist Bloc
Recognizing that there is no hope of debate within said region
Affirming that a condemnation by the nations of the world and of the Security Council will boost its reputation within the freedom-loving, downtrodden, and the rightist regions.
Affirming that by passing this resolution the religious regions of the World Assembly will be indebted to the Security Council and the World Assembly
Calling on the World Assembly to stop itself form becoming dominated by the politics of silencing free thought and expression
Recognizing that the World Assembly is the haven of free thought by which sovereign nations have the right of expression, and condemns The Communist Bloc of cravenly violating its hallowed halls
Recognizing that The Communist Bloc must be reminded of its place, as a region of equal standing with any other , and this resolution will permanently remind them of the harm they caused to their fellow regions
Furthermore condemns the Communist Bloc of shamefully crushing democracy
This resolution hereby condemns The Communist Bloc of egregious crimes against humanity
This resolution hereby condemns The Communist Bloc of the violation of civil rights and liberties
This resolution hereby condemns The Communist Bloc of state-sponsored terrorism
This resolution condemns The Communist Bloc as engaging in silencing opinions and ideas that do not conform to their own
This Resolution Formally Condemns The Communist Bloc
1: Citation needed.
2: Citation needed.
3: This needs considerably more evidence.
4: More nonsense
5: More nonsense
Here the formatting of the resolution inexplicably changes, so that's a drafting problem not to be overlooked, but I'll carry on.
- What evidence is there of rights abuse? Simply saying it exists doesn't mean it does.
- If you don't think there is hope of debate, go look at their RMB. There are far more liberals and non Communists in TCB then there are in MY region.
- Possibly true on the rightist point, but if the Security Council needs to endorse such a dodgy proposal to do it, it's probably not worth it.
- Not a good reason for condemnation
- By condemning a region for no reason that is apparent beyond the fact that it declares itself Communist, thus engaging in the politics of silencing free thought and expression.
- Wording is clumsy, this is an unproven allegation and completely irrelevant. Many regions are internally dictatorial on NS (and TCB probably doesn't even qualify), what has TCB done here to earn a condemnation that the others haven't?
- Evidence of this rights violation should be provided if this shambolic and stupid attempt at a condemnation is to have even a hope of passing.
- None of the final list of things have any evidence provided for them. The last two lines are again, differently formatted for no discernable reason.
In short, this is the worst attempt at a resolution I have ever seen debated by this Council, and that's saying a lot. I'm sure my fellow WA members will vote it down like the miserable steaming sack of manure it is.
by Shaktirajya » Wed May 23, 2018 6:05 pm
by RiderSyl » Wed May 23, 2018 6:09 pm
Karathi wrote:literally acting like a child putting his fingers in his ears "not listening!!!!111"
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