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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 4:33 am
by Lenlyvit
This is in queue now and will go to vote next Saturday at Noon EDT.

PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 6:40 am
by Forestavia
Let's see if this proposal passes the liberation test...
Natives are being banned from their own land. Check.
A quick look at the activity page and RMB reveals a full blown occupation in effect. Check.
The founder does not exist. Check.
If we project into the future, then it is reasonable to assume that the occupiers will password the region and keep it as a trophy and could even go so far as to attempt to refound it. Check.
Regional sovereignty and natives rights have been jeopardized by the raiders/occupiers. Check.

Yes! This is a proper, true, and authentic liberation proposal. This REAL liberation has my support. This is how we're supposed to use liberations in the Security Council. Excellent work!

Passing this resolution will give natives hope and a fighting chance. Support of this Liberation will provide them with an opportunity to take their land back into their own control.

PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 8:32 am
by New Ex Patria
Another nice one, Lenly.

Full support.

PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 8:43 am
by Hehateu
Forestavia wrote:Let's see if this proposal passes the liberation test...
Natives are being banned from their own land. Check.
A quick look at the activity page and RMB reveals a full blown occupation in effect. Check.
The founder does not exist. Check.
If we project into the future, then it is reasonable to assume that the occupiers will password the region and keep it as a trophy and could even go so far as to attempt to refound it. Check.
Regional sovereignty and natives rights have been jeopardized by the raiders/occupiers. Check.

Yes! This is a proper, true, and authentic liberation proposal. This REAL liberation has my support. This is how we're supposed to use liberations in the Security Council. Excellent work!

Passing this resolution will give natives hope and a fighting chance. Support of this Liberation will provide them with an opportunity to take their land back into their own control.


Wrong. Us poor nations have came a great distance to seek asylum. We are now the ME. You cant just kick us out of our new homeland and put a wall up. Fascists.

PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 8:47 am
by Kaboomlandia
Hehateu wrote:
Forestavia wrote:Let's see if this proposal passes the liberation test...
Natives are being banned from their own land. Check.
A quick look at the activity page and RMB reveals a full blown occupation in effect. Check.
The founder does not exist. Check.
If we project into the future, then it is reasonable to assume that the occupiers will password the region and keep it as a trophy and could even go so far as to attempt to refound it. Check.
Regional sovereignty and natives rights have been jeopardized by the raiders/occupiers. Check.

Yes! This is a proper, true, and authentic liberation proposal. This REAL liberation has my support. This is how we're supposed to use liberations in the Security Council. Excellent work!

Passing this resolution will give natives hope and a fighting chance. Support of this Liberation will provide them with an opportunity to take their land back into their own control.


Wrong. Us poor nations have came a great distance to seek asylum. We are now the ME. You cant just kick us out of our new homeland and put a wall up. Fascists.

There’s no point lying because we all know you’re raiders. Hell, you moved to the region from
TI.

PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 9:20 am
by Exogenous Imperium
I strongly support this resolution.

My nation and The Western World are behind you. :)

PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 9:20 am
by The Sanders Empire
I have no links to TI, TRE or USSD. I am a native of TME. Us natives wish only to retain our sovereignty. Please, do not support this liberation. We do not want the Security Council interfering with our region! Leave us alone! TME will accept this raider presence.
ALL HAIL OUR OVERLORDS PLAGENTINE AND GEST!

PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 9:35 am
by Ente Ente
I'm just a harmless native.
These people you heartlessly dub "raiders" are only in our region to help putting in a password for maximum security to protect it against blackguards like you. And yet you want to hinder our security by attempting to liberate the region, using shady means.
Shame on you, I say. Shame on you!

AVE PLAGENTINE AUGUSTUS! PRAISE GEST!

PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 9:38 am
by The Sanders Empire
Yeah! What did you think I meant when I said we would password lock the region?

PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 9:51 am
by Wrapper
You guys remind me of MPFC's The Piranha Brothers sketch. "I understand he also nailed your wife's head to a coffee table. Isn't that right, Mrs O' Tracy?" "Ooh, no, no, no, no."

PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 10:12 am
by The Sanders Empire
Monty Python is AMAZING

PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 10:47 am
by Kaboomlandia
The Sanders Empire wrote:I have no links to TI, TRE or USSD. I am a native of TME. Us natives wish only to retain our sovereignty. Please, do not support this liberation. We do not want the Security Council interfering with our region! Leave us alone! TME will accept this raider presence.
ALL HAIL OUR OVERLORDS PLAGENTINE AND GEST!

You're not fooling anyone. We can SEE that you're not a native. :p

PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 12:06 pm
by Ente Ente
Kaboomlandia wrote:
The Sanders Empire wrote:I have no links to TI, TRE or USSD. I am a native of TME. Us natives wish only to retain our sovereignty. Please, do not support this liberation. We do not want the Security Council interfering with our region! Leave us alone! TME will accept this raider presence.
ALL HAIL OUR OVERLORDS PLAGENTINE AND GEST!

You're not fooling anyone. We can SEE that you're not a native. :p

Oh no.
We were found out
And we put so much effort in our disguises.

Also praise the Monthy Python group. Praise them.

PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 1:02 pm
by Indo-Malaysia
Ente Ente wrote:
Kaboomlandia wrote:You're not fooling anyone. We can SEE that you're not a native. :p

Oh no.
We were found out
And we put so much effort in our disguises.

Also praise the Monthy Python group. Praise them.

I have a good friend in Rome.

His name is.. BIGGUS!... DICKUS!

PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 1:32 pm
by Aresin
Forestavia wrote:There’s no point lying because we all know you’re raiders. Hell, you moved to the region from
TI.

Once again the great "liberators" brand us as fiends and invaders, when all we want is to protect our new home. We have as much of a right to settle in the ME as the natives do. But because we come from a region that you people have deemed unsavory, we must automatically be evil. Even if your so called liberation passes, we will never give up our new home! If you wish to brand us as violent, then we will become violent and never surrender!

PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 4:32 pm
by Kaboomlandia
Aresin wrote:
Forestavia wrote:There’s no point lying because we all know you’re raiders. Hell, you moved to the region from
TI.

Once again the great "liberators" brand us as fiends and invaders, when all we want is to protect our new home. We have as much of a right to settle in the ME as the natives do. But because we come from a region that you people have deemed unsavory, we must automatically be evil. Even if your so called liberation passes, we will never give up our new home! If you wish to brand us as violent, then we will become violent and never surrender!

Shouldn’t have kept blacklisted players in charge then and it’d be treated as normal. Unfortunately, you allow players who have committed OOC offensed to stick around. 8)

PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 5:25 pm
by Aresin
Kaboomlandia wrote:
Aresin wrote:Once again the great "liberators" brand us as fiends and invaders, when all we want is to protect our new home. We have as much of a right to settle in the ME as the natives do. But because we come from a region that you people have deemed unsavory, we must automatically be evil. Even if your so called liberation passes, we will never give up our new home! If you wish to brand us as violent, then we will become violent and never surrender!

Shouldn’t have kept blacklisted players in charge then and it’d be treated as normal. Unfortunately, you allow players who have committed OOC offensed to stick around. 8)

Black listed players and unnamed offenses? Tell me, who was it that decided to brand us all as offenders? And who was it that decided to black list these players? It was none other than this hypocritical security council! You people are fine with offenses when they fit your ideals. But when we commit these so called offenses, this council comes to "liberate" us! But in the end, your "liberations" are no better than the offenses that you condemn us for! You all sit on your high horses, branding us as raiders, but do the same thing whenever a region has the audacity to determine its own future!

PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 5:48 pm
by Kaboomlandia
Aresin wrote:Tell me, who was it that decided to brand us all as offenders?

Literally everybody once their atrocities came to light.

The people that committed these acts (I wish I could mention them by name but rules are rules) would have been probably declared Delete-On-Sight if the evidence that resulted in their blacklisting was actually admissible by the mods. Unfortunately it isn't, so they can still do raids and stuff.

If these were normal raids, it would be perfectly fine. But the raid on ME was perpetrated by people who shouldn't be allowed to play this game anymore.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2018 12:40 pm
by Hehateu
Kaboomlandia wrote:
Aresin wrote:Tell me, who was it that decided to brand us all as offenders?

Literally everybody once their atrocities came to light.

The people that committed these acts (I wish I could mention them by name but rules are rules) would have been probably declared Delete-On-Sight if the evidence that resulted in their blacklisting was actually admissible by the mods. Unfortunately it isn't, so they can still do raids and stuff.

If these were normal raids, it would be perfectly fine. But the raid on ME was perpetrated by people who shouldn't be allowed to play this game anymore.


The ME is my homeland now. Please stop calling it a raid.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2018 3:26 pm
by Kaboomlandia
Hehateu wrote:
Kaboomlandia wrote:Literally everybody once their atrocities came to light.

The people that committed these acts (I wish I could mention them by name but rules are rules) would have been probably declared Delete-On-Sight if the evidence that resulted in their blacklisting was actually admissible by the mods. Unfortunately it isn't, so they can still do raids and stuff.

If these were normal raids, it would be perfectly fine. But the raid on ME was perpetrated by people who shouldn't be allowed to play this game anymore.


The ME is my homeland now. Please stop calling it a raid.

Under your logic, Iraq became the homeland of American servicemen in 2003 then.

PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2018 5:57 am
by Khanist
Lenlyvit wrote:
Ka Lanakila wrote:I would love to see TME liberated!

Thank you for your support.

-Ka Lanakila

Thank you for responding to my telegram! I hope we can truly help TME either through this proposal or through a quick liberation.

P.S. Ka Lanakila is a TME native.

HA! Pathetic fendas require the help of the security to liberate their region. GEST IS BEST!

PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2018 7:20 pm
by Thils
Opposed.

Love the idea, trust me. I hate The Roman Empire, but there's no Delegate-imposed password, so a Liberation is not going to do anything.

PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2018 8:28 pm
by Kaboomlandia
Thils wrote:Opposed.

Love the idea, trust me. I had The Roman Empire, but there's no Delegate-imposed password, so a Liberation is not going to do anything.

The invaders (heh) have expressed their intent to put one in, and we really shouldn’t allow an invading force led by OOC scumbags to get what they want.

PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2018 11:32 pm
by Ente Ente
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't line

Horrified by the make-up of the occupying forces, comprised of not one, not two, but three regions internationally blacklisted for various offenses;


Breaking SC-Rule 4a?
(a) You cannot reference the "real world" outside of NationStates.


The entire thing happened in a private chat back in february, after all. Not on the boards.

PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 4:00 am
by Lenlyvit
Ente Ente wrote:Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't line

Horrified by the make-up of the occupying forces, comprised of not one, not two, but three regions internationally blacklisted for various offenses;


Breaking SC-Rule 4a?
(a) You cannot reference the "real world" outside of NationStates.


The entire thing happened in a private chat back in february, after all. Not on the boards.

This does not break R4, because you were blacklisted for the offenses in-game and have status in-game as blacklisted orgs.