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Lenlyvit
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Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Lenlyvit » Fri Apr 20, 2018 4:33 am

This is in queue now and will go to vote next Saturday at Noon EDT.
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Forestavia
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Ex-Nation

Postby Forestavia » Fri Apr 20, 2018 6:40 am

Let's see if this proposal passes the liberation test...
Natives are being banned from their own land. Check.
A quick look at the activity page and RMB reveals a full blown occupation in effect. Check.
The founder does not exist. Check.
If we project into the future, then it is reasonable to assume that the occupiers will password the region and keep it as a trophy and could even go so far as to attempt to refound it. Check.
Regional sovereignty and natives rights have been jeopardized by the raiders/occupiers. Check.

Yes! This is a proper, true, and authentic liberation proposal. This REAL liberation has my support. This is how we're supposed to use liberations in the Security Council. Excellent work!

Passing this resolution will give natives hope and a fighting chance. Support of this Liberation will provide them with an opportunity to take their land back into their own control.

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New Ex Patria
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Postby New Ex Patria » Fri Apr 20, 2018 8:32 am

Another nice one, Lenly.

Full support.
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Hehateu
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Ex-Nation

Postby Hehateu » Fri Apr 20, 2018 8:43 am

Forestavia wrote:Let's see if this proposal passes the liberation test...
Natives are being banned from their own land. Check.
A quick look at the activity page and RMB reveals a full blown occupation in effect. Check.
The founder does not exist. Check.
If we project into the future, then it is reasonable to assume that the occupiers will password the region and keep it as a trophy and could even go so far as to attempt to refound it. Check.
Regional sovereignty and natives rights have been jeopardized by the raiders/occupiers. Check.

Yes! This is a proper, true, and authentic liberation proposal. This REAL liberation has my support. This is how we're supposed to use liberations in the Security Council. Excellent work!

Passing this resolution will give natives hope and a fighting chance. Support of this Liberation will provide them with an opportunity to take their land back into their own control.


Wrong. Us poor nations have came a great distance to seek asylum. We are now the ME. You cant just kick us out of our new homeland and put a wall up. Fascists.

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Kaboomlandia
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Ex-Nation

Postby Kaboomlandia » Fri Apr 20, 2018 8:47 am

Hehateu wrote:
Forestavia wrote:Let's see if this proposal passes the liberation test...
Natives are being banned from their own land. Check.
A quick look at the activity page and RMB reveals a full blown occupation in effect. Check.
The founder does not exist. Check.
If we project into the future, then it is reasonable to assume that the occupiers will password the region and keep it as a trophy and could even go so far as to attempt to refound it. Check.
Regional sovereignty and natives rights have been jeopardized by the raiders/occupiers. Check.

Yes! This is a proper, true, and authentic liberation proposal. This REAL liberation has my support. This is how we're supposed to use liberations in the Security Council. Excellent work!

Passing this resolution will give natives hope and a fighting chance. Support of this Liberation will provide them with an opportunity to take their land back into their own control.


Wrong. Us poor nations have came a great distance to seek asylum. We are now the ME. You cant just kick us out of our new homeland and put a wall up. Fascists.

There’s no point lying because we all know you’re raiders. Hell, you moved to the region from
TI.
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Exogenous Imperium
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Postby Exogenous Imperium » Fri Apr 20, 2018 9:20 am

I strongly support this resolution.

My nation and The Western World are behind you. :)

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The Sanders Empire
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Ex-Nation

Postby The Sanders Empire » Fri Apr 20, 2018 9:20 am

I have no links to TI, TRE or USSD. I am a native of TME. Us natives wish only to retain our sovereignty. Please, do not support this liberation. We do not want the Security Council interfering with our region! Leave us alone! TME will accept this raider presence.
ALL HAIL OUR OVERLORDS PLAGENTINE AND GEST!
I'm a really mean person. I'm a bad person. A big poo-poo.

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Ente Ente
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Ex-Nation

Postby Ente Ente » Fri Apr 20, 2018 9:35 am

I'm just a harmless native.
These people you heartlessly dub "raiders" are only in our region to help putting in a password for maximum security to protect it against blackguards like you. And yet you want to hinder our security by attempting to liberate the region, using shady means.
Shame on you, I say. Shame on you!

AVE PLAGENTINE AUGUSTUS! PRAISE GEST!
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The Sanders Empire
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Ex-Nation

Postby The Sanders Empire » Fri Apr 20, 2018 9:38 am

Yeah! What did you think I meant when I said we would password lock the region?
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Postby Wrapper » Fri Apr 20, 2018 9:51 am

You guys remind me of MPFC's The Piranha Brothers sketch. "I understand he also nailed your wife's head to a coffee table. Isn't that right, Mrs O' Tracy?" "Ooh, no, no, no, no."

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The Sanders Empire
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Ex-Nation

Postby The Sanders Empire » Fri Apr 20, 2018 10:12 am

Monty Python is AMAZING
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Kaboomlandia
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Ex-Nation

Postby Kaboomlandia » Fri Apr 20, 2018 10:47 am

The Sanders Empire wrote:I have no links to TI, TRE or USSD. I am a native of TME. Us natives wish only to retain our sovereignty. Please, do not support this liberation. We do not want the Security Council interfering with our region! Leave us alone! TME will accept this raider presence.
ALL HAIL OUR OVERLORDS PLAGENTINE AND GEST!

You're not fooling anyone. We can SEE that you're not a native. :p
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"Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result."
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."

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Ente Ente
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Ex-Nation

Postby Ente Ente » Fri Apr 20, 2018 12:06 pm

Kaboomlandia wrote:
The Sanders Empire wrote:I have no links to TI, TRE or USSD. I am a native of TME. Us natives wish only to retain our sovereignty. Please, do not support this liberation. We do not want the Security Council interfering with our region! Leave us alone! TME will accept this raider presence.
ALL HAIL OUR OVERLORDS PLAGENTINE AND GEST!

You're not fooling anyone. We can SEE that you're not a native. :p

Oh no.
We were found out
And we put so much effort in our disguises.

Also praise the Monthy Python group. Praise them.

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Indo-Malaysia
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Ex-Nation

Postby Indo-Malaysia » Fri Apr 20, 2018 1:02 pm

Ente Ente wrote:
Kaboomlandia wrote:You're not fooling anyone. We can SEE that you're not a native. :p

Oh no.
We were found out
And we put so much effort in our disguises.

Also praise the Monthy Python group. Praise them.

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His name is.. BIGGUS!... DICKUS!
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Aresin
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Anarchy

Postby Aresin » Fri Apr 20, 2018 1:32 pm

Forestavia wrote:There’s no point lying because we all know you’re raiders. Hell, you moved to the region from
TI.

Once again the great "liberators" brand us as fiends and invaders, when all we want is to protect our new home. We have as much of a right to settle in the ME as the natives do. But because we come from a region that you people have deemed unsavory, we must automatically be evil. Even if your so called liberation passes, we will never give up our new home! If you wish to brand us as violent, then we will become violent and never surrender!
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Kaboomlandia
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Ex-Nation

Postby Kaboomlandia » Fri Apr 20, 2018 4:32 pm

Aresin wrote:
Forestavia wrote:There’s no point lying because we all know you’re raiders. Hell, you moved to the region from
TI.

Once again the great "liberators" brand us as fiends and invaders, when all we want is to protect our new home. We have as much of a right to settle in the ME as the natives do. But because we come from a region that you people have deemed unsavory, we must automatically be evil. Even if your so called liberation passes, we will never give up our new home! If you wish to brand us as violent, then we will become violent and never surrender!

Shouldn’t have kept blacklisted players in charge then and it’d be treated as normal. Unfortunately, you allow players who have committed OOC offensed to stick around. 8)
In=character, Kaboomlandia is a World Assembly member and abides by its resolutions. If this nation isn't in the WA, it's for practical reasons.
Author of GA #371 and SC #208, #214, #226, #227, #230, #232
Co-Author of SC #204
"Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result."
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."

"Your legitimacy, Kaboom, has melted away in my eyes. I couldn't have believed that only a shadow of your once brilliant WA career remains."

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Aresin
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Anarchy

Postby Aresin » Fri Apr 20, 2018 5:25 pm

Kaboomlandia wrote:
Aresin wrote:Once again the great "liberators" brand us as fiends and invaders, when all we want is to protect our new home. We have as much of a right to settle in the ME as the natives do. But because we come from a region that you people have deemed unsavory, we must automatically be evil. Even if your so called liberation passes, we will never give up our new home! If you wish to brand us as violent, then we will become violent and never surrender!

Shouldn’t have kept blacklisted players in charge then and it’d be treated as normal. Unfortunately, you allow players who have committed OOC offensed to stick around. 8)

Black listed players and unnamed offenses? Tell me, who was it that decided to brand us all as offenders? And who was it that decided to black list these players? It was none other than this hypocritical security council! You people are fine with offenses when they fit your ideals. But when we commit these so called offenses, this council comes to "liberate" us! But in the end, your "liberations" are no better than the offenses that you condemn us for! You all sit on your high horses, branding us as raiders, but do the same thing whenever a region has the audacity to determine its own future!
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Kaboomlandia
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Ex-Nation

Postby Kaboomlandia » Fri Apr 20, 2018 5:48 pm

Aresin wrote:Tell me, who was it that decided to brand us all as offenders?

Literally everybody once their atrocities came to light.

The people that committed these acts (I wish I could mention them by name but rules are rules) would have been probably declared Delete-On-Sight if the evidence that resulted in their blacklisting was actually admissible by the mods. Unfortunately it isn't, so they can still do raids and stuff.

If these were normal raids, it would be perfectly fine. But the raid on ME was perpetrated by people who shouldn't be allowed to play this game anymore.
In=character, Kaboomlandia is a World Assembly member and abides by its resolutions. If this nation isn't in the WA, it's for practical reasons.
Author of GA #371 and SC #208, #214, #226, #227, #230, #232
Co-Author of SC #204
"Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result."
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."

"Your legitimacy, Kaboom, has melted away in my eyes. I couldn't have believed that only a shadow of your once brilliant WA career remains."

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Hehateu
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Ex-Nation

Postby Hehateu » Sat Apr 21, 2018 12:40 pm

Kaboomlandia wrote:
Aresin wrote:Tell me, who was it that decided to brand us all as offenders?

Literally everybody once their atrocities came to light.

The people that committed these acts (I wish I could mention them by name but rules are rules) would have been probably declared Delete-On-Sight if the evidence that resulted in their blacklisting was actually admissible by the mods. Unfortunately it isn't, so they can still do raids and stuff.

If these were normal raids, it would be perfectly fine. But the raid on ME was perpetrated by people who shouldn't be allowed to play this game anymore.


The ME is my homeland now. Please stop calling it a raid.

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Kaboomlandia
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Ex-Nation

Postby Kaboomlandia » Sat Apr 21, 2018 3:26 pm

Hehateu wrote:
Kaboomlandia wrote:Literally everybody once their atrocities came to light.

The people that committed these acts (I wish I could mention them by name but rules are rules) would have been probably declared Delete-On-Sight if the evidence that resulted in their blacklisting was actually admissible by the mods. Unfortunately it isn't, so they can still do raids and stuff.

If these were normal raids, it would be perfectly fine. But the raid on ME was perpetrated by people who shouldn't be allowed to play this game anymore.


The ME is my homeland now. Please stop calling it a raid.

Under your logic, Iraq became the homeland of American servicemen in 2003 then.
In=character, Kaboomlandia is a World Assembly member and abides by its resolutions. If this nation isn't in the WA, it's for practical reasons.
Author of GA #371 and SC #208, #214, #226, #227, #230, #232
Co-Author of SC #204
"Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result."
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."

"Your legitimacy, Kaboom, has melted away in my eyes. I couldn't have believed that only a shadow of your once brilliant WA career remains."

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Khanist
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Ex-Nation

Postby Khanist » Sun Apr 22, 2018 5:57 am

Lenlyvit wrote:
Ka Lanakila wrote:I would love to see TME liberated!

Thank you for your support.

-Ka Lanakila

Thank you for responding to my telegram! I hope we can truly help TME either through this proposal or through a quick liberation.

P.S. Ka Lanakila is a TME native.

HA! Pathetic fendas require the help of the security to liberate their region. GEST IS BEST!

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Thils
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Thils » Sun Apr 22, 2018 7:20 pm

Opposed.

Love the idea, trust me. I hate The Roman Empire, but there's no Delegate-imposed password, so a Liberation is not going to do anything.
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Kaboomlandia
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Founded: May 22, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Kaboomlandia » Sun Apr 22, 2018 8:28 pm

Thils wrote:Opposed.

Love the idea, trust me. I had The Roman Empire, but there's no Delegate-imposed password, so a Liberation is not going to do anything.

The invaders (heh) have expressed their intent to put one in, and we really shouldn’t allow an invading force led by OOC scumbags to get what they want.
In=character, Kaboomlandia is a World Assembly member and abides by its resolutions. If this nation isn't in the WA, it's for practical reasons.
Author of GA #371 and SC #208, #214, #226, #227, #230, #232
Co-Author of SC #204
"Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result."
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."

"Your legitimacy, Kaboom, has melted away in my eyes. I couldn't have believed that only a shadow of your once brilliant WA career remains."

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Ente Ente
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Ex-Nation

Postby Ente Ente » Sun Apr 22, 2018 11:32 pm

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't line

Horrified by the make-up of the occupying forces, comprised of not one, not two, but three regions internationally blacklisted for various offenses;


Breaking SC-Rule 4a?
(a) You cannot reference the "real world" outside of NationStates.


The entire thing happened in a private chat back in february, after all. Not on the boards.

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Lenlyvit
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Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Lenlyvit » Mon Apr 23, 2018 4:00 am

Ente Ente wrote:Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't line

Horrified by the make-up of the occupying forces, comprised of not one, not two, but three regions internationally blacklisted for various offenses;


Breaking SC-Rule 4a?
(a) You cannot reference the "real world" outside of NationStates.


The entire thing happened in a private chat back in february, after all. Not on the boards.

This does not break R4, because you were blacklisted for the offenses in-game and have status in-game as blacklisted orgs.
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