[PASSED] Liberate KAISERREICH

[The Neo Fascist Byzantium empire]

They have a right to their ideology. They are so many communists here yet you pick on the innocent fascists. Not the vile ideology of communism the disgusting ideology that killed the most people in history. The Kaierreich have a right to their ideology. You cant though police them when they haven't broken any rules

A fascist standing up for them, whining about communists, doesn't help their case one bit.

KR is as fascist as the Soviet union is communist if you ask the average red lib on here

Neither does a KR native painting all their opposition as one group, while making a ridiculous RL comparison.

They aren't even fascists and they haven't done anything you cant just attack people for thought crimes. All these personal attacks on fascist regions(whether real or not) for thought crimes is getting old

[Jar Wattinree]

They have a right to their ideology. They are so many communists here yet you pick on the innocent fascists. Not the vile ideology of communism the disgusting ideology that killed the most people in history. The Kaierreich have a right to their ideology. You cant though police them when they haven't broken any rules

Fascists are hardly innocent; and most of the people posting here are not communist, including yours truly. And this is not thought policing, just a draft for a potential resolution to condemn a region for its inability to police its own members. Glorifying Nazism is never okay -- in every gameplay region and server I've been in, no one posts this sort of stuff without getting slapped by their admin staff.

KAISERREICH may continue to hold onto these feeble protests of "we're not Nazi!" but its behavior toward these drafts is very indicative of its true nature, or at least those of its citizens who try to defend it. The ideology is a mistake, and while NS permits discussion and even adherents of fascism to argue their stance (provided they obey site rules), most of Gameplay view it otherwise and it is reflected in the Security Council's opinion.

[RiderSyl]

They aren't even fascists and they haven't done anything you cant just attack people for thought crimes. All these personal attacks on fascist regions(whether real or not) for thought crimes is getting old

Careful not to snap your bike chain, backpedaling so hard like that.

[Trigori]

They have a right to their ideology. They are so many communists here yet you pick on the innocent fascists. Not the vile ideology of communism the disgusting ideology that killed the most people in history. The Kaierreich have a right to their ideology. You cant though police them when they haven't broken any rules

Fascists are hardly innocent; and most of the people posting here are not communist, including yours truly. And this is not thought policing, just a draft for a potential resolution to condemn a region for its inability to police its own members. Glorifying Nazism is never okay -- in every gameplay region and server I've been in, no one posts this sort of stuff without getting slapped by their admin staff.

KAISERREICH may continue to hold onto these feeble protests of "we're not Nazi!" but its behavior toward these drafts are very indicative of its true nature, or at least those of its citizens who try to defend it. The ideology is a mistake, and while NS permits discussion and even adherents of fascism to argue their stance (provided they obey site rules), most of Gameplay view it otherwise and it is reflective of the Security Council's opinion.

>we are not nazi!
>THAT MEANS YOU'RE A NAZI!

10/10

[Blood Wine]

Full support for this idea

A fascist standing up for them, whining about communists, doesn't help their case one bit.


Neither does a KR native painting all their opposition as one group, while making a ridiculous RL comparison.

They aren't even fascists and they haven't done anything you cant just attack people for thought crimes. All these personal attacks on fascist regions(whether real or not) for thought crimes is getting old

You can't *personally* attack a region...a region isn't a person

They aren't even fascists and they haven't done anything you cant just attack people for thought crimes. All these personal attacks on fascist regions(whether real or not) for thought crimes is getting old

Careful not to snap your bike chain, backpedaling so hard like that.

Bike lock*

[Greater Alash Orda]

Alash Orda supports it.

[Sarakart]

Hot take from the Neo-Fascist Byzantines:

-Kaiserreich isn't fascist
-but even if it was fascist, which it totally isn't, it would be bad to attack them
-but also we need to stop attacking fascist regions

I don't really get it. I might be more sympathetic than most to the idea of a Kaiserreich themed region that is strictly focused on the old Wilhelmine and Bismarckian regime, but when people like the "Neo-Fascist Byzantine Empire" defend it you start to raise eyebrows.

[Jar Wattinree]

Fascists are hardly innocent; and most of the people posting here are not communist, including yours truly. And this is not thought policing, just a draft for a potential resolution to condemn a region for its inability to police its own members. Glorifying Nazism is never okay -- in every gameplay region and server I've been in, no one posts this sort of stuff without getting slapped by their admin staff.

KAISERREICH may continue to hold onto these feeble protests of "we're not Nazi!" but its behavior toward these drafts are very indicative of its true nature, or at least those of its citizens who try to defend it. The ideology is a mistake, and while NS permits discussion and even adherents of fascism to argue their stance (provided they obey site rules), most of Gameplay view it otherwise and it is reflective of the Security Council's opinion.

>we are not nazi!
>THAT MEANS YOU'RE A NAZI!

10/10

I don't see where you could have picked this up from my comment. Can you elaborate where I made this equivalence?

[The Neo Fascist Byzantium empire]

They have a right to their ideology. They are so many communists here yet you pick on the innocent fascists. Not the vile ideology of communism the disgusting ideology that killed the most people in history. The Kaierreich have a right to their ideology. You cant though police them when they haven't broken any rules

Fascists are hardly innocent; and most of the people posting here are not communist, including yours truly. And this is not thought policing, just a draft for a potential resolution to condemn a region for its inability to police its own members. Glorifying Nazism is never okay -- in every gameplay region and server I've been in, no one posts this sort of stuff without getting slapped by their admin staff.

KAISERREICH may continue to hold onto these feeble protests of "we're not Nazi!" but its behavior toward these drafts is very indicative of its true nature, or at least those of its citizens who try to defend it. The ideology is a mistake, and while NS permits discussion and even adherents of fascism to argue their stance (provided they obey site rules), most of Gameplay view it otherwise and it is reflected in the Security Council's opinion.

They haven't broken any laws they can say what they want in their own time or own servers. What happens outside of nationstates chats is not nationstate's problem and its not something you can condemn them for. I am not in their region but I defend their right to their opinions and they aren't even a fascist region. You also don't see hateful communist or globalist regions targeted only fascist ones for thought policing.

[RiderSyl]

Fascists are hardly innocent; and most of the people posting here are not communist, including yours truly. And this is not thought policing, just a draft for a potential resolution to condemn a region for its inability to police its own members. Glorifying Nazism is never okay -- in every gameplay region and server I've been in, no one posts this sort of stuff without getting slapped by their admin staff.

KAISERREICH may continue to hold onto these feeble protests of "we're not Nazi!" but its behavior toward these drafts are very indicative of its true nature, or at least those of its citizens who try to defend it. The ideology is a mistake, and while NS permits discussion and even adherents of fascism to argue their stance (provided they obey site rules), most of Gameplay view it otherwise and it is reflective of the Security Council's opinion.

>we are not nazi!
>THAT MEANS YOU'RE A NAZI!

10/10

Did you even read the Jar's comment?

[The Neo Fascist Byzantium empire]

Hot take from the Neo-Fascist Byzantines:

-Kaiserreich isn't fascist
-but even if it was fascist, which it totally isn't, it would be bad to attack them
-but also we need to stop attacking fascist regions

I don't really get it. I might be more sympathetic than most to the idea of a Kaiserreich themed region that is strictly focused on the old Wilhelmine and Bismarckian regime, but when people like the "Neo-Fascist Byzantine Empire" defend it you start to raise eyebrows.

I simply defended a region I know very little about from the "progressive" hate mob

[Queen Yuno]

Hey, not a bad proposal.
Liberate Kaiserreich so that when it goes founderless (which it inevitably will, with your volatile founder) there's no password to prevent raids on it.

[RiderSyl]

Hot take from the Neo-Fascist Byzantines:

-Kaiserreich isn't fascist
-but even if it was fascist, which it totally isn't, it would be bad to attack them
-but also we need to stop attacking fascist regions

I don't really get it. I might be more sympathetic than most to the idea of a Kaiserreich themed region that is strictly focused on the old Wilhelmine and Bismarckian regime, but when people like the "Neo-Fascist Byzantine Empire" defend it you start to raise eyebrows.

I simply defended a region I know very little about from the "progressive" hate mob

It shows.

[Blood Wine]

Hot take from the Neo-Fascist Byzantines:

-Kaiserreich isn't fascist
-but even if it was fascist, which it totally isn't, it would be bad to attack them
-but also we need to stop attacking fascist regions

I don't really get it. I might be more sympathetic than most to the idea of a Kaiserreich themed region that is strictly focused on the old Wilhelmine and Bismarckian regime, but when people like the "Neo-Fascist Byzantine Empire" defend it you start to raise eyebrows.

The Kaiserreich is whatKAISERREICH claims to be

They haven't broken any laws they can say what they want in their own time or own servers. What happens outside of nationstates chats is not nationstate's problem and its not something you can condemn them for. I am not in their region but I defend their right to their opinions and they aren't even a fascist region. You also don't see hateful communist or globalist regions targeted only fascist ones for thought policing.

Laws are not relevant, Kaiserreichs long history of anti antisemitism and nazi sympathies is

[Sarakart]

Fascists are hardly innocent; and most of the people posting here are not communist, including yours truly. And this is not thought policing, just a draft for a potential resolution to condemn a region for its inability to police its own members. Glorifying Nazism is never okay -- in every gameplay region and server I've been in, no one posts this sort of stuff without getting slapped by their admin staff.

KAISERREICH may continue to hold onto these feeble protests of "we're not Nazi!" but its behavior toward these drafts is very indicative of its true nature, or at least those of its citizens who try to defend it. The ideology is a mistake, and while NS permits discussion and even adherents of fascism to argue their stance (provided they obey site rules), most of Gameplay view it otherwise and it is reflected in the Security Council's opinion.

They haven't broken any laws they can say what they want in their own time or own servers. What happens outside of nationstates chats is not nationstate's problem and its not something you can condemn them for. I am not in their region but I defend their right to their opinions and they aren't even a fascist region. You also don't see hateful communist or globalist regions targeted only fascist ones for thought policing.

There's no reason why you can't condemn people for off-site statements. Off-site being off limits refers to the nationstates rules, not in-game condemnations and liberations.

It's not thought-policing, it's a liberation campaign against a region which apparently has some fascist and nazi undertones. No one's actually going into your mind and changing your thoughts or punishing for them. Get over yourself.

I simply defended a region I know very little about from the "progressive" hate mob

My dude, maybe they could use less of your advocacy when they're trying to argue they're not fascist or Nazi. When you're trying to defend the Pickelhaube, you don't need five guys in a Stahlhelm nodding along.

[Aclion]

KR is as fascist as the Soviet union is communist if you ask the average red lib on here

So they're not real Fascist?

[Evil Dictators Happyland]

*grrrrrrrgh* Another "Is Kaiserreich fascist?" flamewar, this time with shades of "is communism evil?". Whoop de friggin' do.
Look, it's clear by now that this isn't going anywhere. Yelling at each other about fascism fixes no one's problems. And as for the resolution itself, liberating a region with an active founder and no password is a stupid idea in every possible sense of the words.

[Blood Wine]

If you're talking about the SC, then yes you cant condemn people for off-site stuff, in general, yes you can condemn them

[Trigori]

>we are not nazi!
>THAT MEANS YOU'RE A NAZI!

10/10

Did you even read the Jar's comment?

Did you even open your eyes?

"KAISERREICH may continue to hold onto these feeble protests of "we're not Nazi!" but its behavior toward these drafts are very indicative of its true nature, or at least those of its citizens who try to defend it."

[Blood Wine]

*grrrrrrrgh* Another "Is Kaiserreich fascist?" flamewar, this time with shades of "is communism evil?". Whoop de friggin' do.
Look, it's clear by now that this isn't going anywhere. Yelling at each other about fascism fixes no one's problems. And as for the resolution itself, liberating a region with an active founder and no password is a stupid idea in every possible sense of the words.

Actually, tactically speaking it would help secure the region by anti fascist forces if the founder gets DEAT or CTE

[Sarakart]

If you're talking about the SC, then yes you cant condemn people for off-site stuff, in general, yes you can condemn them

So you cannot condemn people for off-site stuff, but you are allowed to form a liberation with evidence from off-site channels? Just trying to understand the boundaries here.

[The Neo Fascist Byzantium empire]

Hot take from the Neo-Fascist Byzantines:

-Kaiserreich isn't fascist
-but even if it was fascist, which it totally isn't, it would be bad to attack them
-but also we need to stop attacking fascist regions

I don't really get it. I might be more sympathetic than most to the idea of a Kaiserreich themed region that is strictly focused on the old Wilhelmine and Bismarckian regime, but when people like the "Neo-Fascist Byzantine Empire" defend it you start to raise eyebrows.

The Kaiserreich is whatKAISERREICH claims to be

They haven't broken any laws they can say what they want in their own time or own servers. What happens outside of nationstates chats is not nationstate's problem and its not something you can condemn them for. I am not in their region but I defend their right to their opinions and they aren't even a fascist region. You also don't see hateful communist or globalist regions targeted only fascist ones for thought policing.

Laws are not relevant, Kaiserreichs long history of anti antisemitism and nazi sympathies is

And. That's ok. They can sympathise or believe what they want as long as the sites laws aren't broken

[The Neo Fascist Byzantium empire]

*grrrrrrrgh* Another "Is Kaiserreich fascist?" flamewar, this time with shades of "is communism evil?". Whoop de friggin' do.
Look, it's clear by now that this isn't going anywhere. Yelling at each other about fascism fixes no one's problems. And as for the resolution itself, liberating a region with an active founder and no password is a stupid idea in every possible sense of the words.

Actually, tactically speaking it would help secure the region by anti fascist forces if the founder gets DEAT or CTE

Anti fascist you mean pro terrorist organisation. They are openly supporting terrorists and North Korea

[Sarakart]

The Kaiserreich is whatKAISERREICH claims to be



Laws are not relevant, Kaiserreichs long history of anti antisemitism and nazi sympathies is

And. That's ok. They can sympathise or believe what they want as long as the sites laws aren't broken

That's not how the security council works. If you break the site's rules you answer to moderators and administration, not the SC.

[Trigori]

*grrrrrrrgh* Another "Is Kaiserreich fascist?" flamewar, this time with shades of "is communism evil?". Whoop de friggin' do.
Look, it's clear by now that this isn't going anywhere. Yelling at each other about fascism fixes no one's problems. And as for the resolution itself, liberating a region with an active founder and no password is a stupid idea in every possible sense of the words.

An actual sensible comment for once