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Jar Wattinree
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Postby Jar Wattinree » Mon Mar 19, 2018 9:07 am

Great job, Lenlyvit!
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Postby Sarakart » Mon Mar 19, 2018 9:09 am

Great work.
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Postby Lord Dominator » Mon Mar 19, 2018 9:09 am

Great job me Lenly!
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Postby Lord Dominator » Mon Mar 19, 2018 9:10 am

Divitalia wrote:This’ll pass in an hour, and then we’ll have all the same arguments in the Nazi Europa thread...

Probably not, given that there is far less ambiguity about what that region believes. None, actually

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Postby Lenlyvit » Mon Mar 19, 2018 9:12 am

Jar Wattinree wrote:Great job, Lenlyvit!

Sarakart wrote:Great work.

Lord Dominator wrote:Great job me Lenly!
I need a drink, but I can't legally have one, what to do...

Lol, thanks guys :) Of course, I had a really good arguer on my side :p

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Postby Lord Dominator » Mon Mar 19, 2018 9:16 am

Lenlyvit wrote:
Jar Wattinree wrote:Great job, Lenlyvit!

Sarakart wrote:Great work.

Lord Dominator wrote:Great job me Lenly!
I need a drink, but I can't legally have one, what to do...

Lol, thanks guys :) Of course, I had a really good arguer on my side :p

*gives Lord Dominater another 3 dozen chocolate chip cookies*

noms the cookies

Speaking of, some stats:
Second longest thread for a proposal that went to vote, after something about abortion (so far)
Third longest thread for a proposal overall (probably) after Liberate Haven (Mall's), and the aforementioned abortion one
There is very little redtext in this thread relative to size & topic (kudos to everyone)
In three minutes or so, this thread will have been posted for all of 8 days
And a self-indulgent one, as of this typing my posts make up ~13.7% of the thread

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Postby Soviet Lestland » Mon Mar 19, 2018 9:16 am

I made a meme about this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAezNNLwXEI

Have fun guys!

Also Lenlyvit! You have earned a place in Soviet Lestlands honor, for the guy that successfully liberated KAISERREICH! :clap:

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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Mon Mar 19, 2018 9:20 am

Lenlyvit wrote:
Jar Wattinree wrote:Great job, Lenlyvit!

Sarakart wrote:Great work.

Lord Dominator wrote:Great job me Lenly!
I need a drink, but I can't legally have one, what to do...

Lol, thanks guys :) Of course, I had a really good arguer on my side :p

*gives Lord Dominater another 3 dozen chocolate chip cookies*

I was on the other side of this argument but congrats on your dedecation paying off I guess.
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Mon Mar 19, 2018 9:21 am

Lord Dominator wrote:
Divitalia wrote:This’ll pass in an hour, and then we’ll have all the same arguments in the Nazi Europa thread...

Probably not, given that there is far less ambiguity about what that region believes. None, actually

I'll probably vote against, but I won't be arguing in their defence. Not one little bit.
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Postby Wrapper » Mon Mar 19, 2018 9:27 am

Yes, Len, great job breaking the Security Council. :p

I will say, it is nice to see this level of SC activity after so much relative stagnation.

Lord Dominator wrote:There is very little redtext in this thread relative to size & topic (kudos to everyone)

I can fix that....

KIDDING, kidding I swear.

The discussion did veer off into NSG territory more than a few times, but we recognized that at least some of those arguments were relevant. I wouldn't expect so much leeway in the future.

Forestavia wrote:4. When their founder ceases to exist, the nations of KAISERREICH will be unable to protect themselves. Their region will be invaded and their culture will be diluted. That sounds a lot like harassment to me.

For the record, no, that is not harassment. That's ideology-based raiding and that's been part of gameplay for some time.

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Postby Jar Wattinree » Mon Mar 19, 2018 9:30 am

Wrapper wrote:The discussion did veer off into NSG territory more than a few times, but we recognized that at least some of those arguments were relevant. I wouldn't expect so much leeway in the future.

Yeah, I don't expect that to happen either. But at least it stayed mostly on topic, which is good for all of us around.
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Mon Mar 19, 2018 9:31 am

Wrapper wrote:Yes, Len, great job breaking the Security Council. :p

I will say, it is nice to see this level of SC activity after so much relative stagnation.

Lord Dominator wrote:There is very little redtext in this thread relative to size & topic (kudos to everyone)

I can fix that....

KIDDING, kidding I swear.

The discussion did veer off into NSG territory more than a few times, but we recognized that at least some of those arguments were relevant. I wouldn't expect so much leeway in the future.

Forestavia wrote:4. When their founder ceases to exist, the nations of KAISERREICH will be unable to protect themselves. Their region will be invaded and their culture will be diluted. That sounds a lot like harassment to me.

For the record, no, that is not harassment. That's ideology-based raiding and that's been part of gameplay for some time.

I would argue that the level of 'ideology-based gameplay' that exists against fascist/Nazi regions should constitute harassment, but that is a can of worms I don't plan on opening too far. It sounds like it would become a circular discussion that would go on into eternity.
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Postby Caelapes » Mon Mar 19, 2018 9:31 am

Wrapper wrote:
Forestavia wrote:4. When their founder ceases to exist, the nations of KAISERREICH will be unable to protect themselves. Their region will be invaded and their culture will be diluted. That sounds a lot like harassment to me.

For the record, no, that is not harassment. That's ideology-based raiding and that's been part of gameplay for some time.

At least since 2003, when The MT Army was first founded and started taking the fight to Nazis. Fifteen years this June, which is probably older than a lot of the kids in KR.
    
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Postby Lord Dominator » Mon Mar 19, 2018 9:31 am

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
Lenlyvit wrote:

Lol, thanks guys :) Of course, I had a really good arguer on my side :p

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I was on the other side of this argument but congrats on your dedecation paying off I guess.

Yep, kudos all around to the people who debated, or at least the ones who stayed and debated more than a period of hours :clap:

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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Mon Mar 19, 2018 9:35 am

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Greater vakolicci haven wrote:I was on the other side of this argument but congrats on your dedecation paying off I guess.

Yep, kudos all around to the people who debated, or at least the ones who stayed and debated more than a period of hours :clap:

I like to hope I stayed respectful enough not to piss anybody off too much.
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Postby Lord Dominator » Mon Mar 19, 2018 9:36 am

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
Lord Dominator wrote:Yep, kudos all around to the people who debated, or at least the ones who stayed and debated more than a period of hours :clap:

I like to hope I stayed respectful enough not to piss anybody off too much.

I think you did at least, from what I can remember

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Postby Vandario » Mon Mar 19, 2018 9:55 am

An so the miscarriage of Justice, this witch hunt is complete. At least now I can go back to isolation, and probably resign from WA/SC again. Good riddance.
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Postby Sarakart » Mon Mar 19, 2018 10:00 am

Vandario wrote:An so the miscarriage of Justice, this witch hunt is complete. At least now I can go back to isolation, and probably resign from WA/SC again. Good riddance.


Well that's one less witch to keep track of ;)
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Postby Lord Dominator » Mon Mar 19, 2018 10:10 am

Sarakart wrote:
Vandario wrote:An so the miscarriage of Justice, this witch hunt is complete. At least now I can go back to isolation, and probably resign from WA/SC again. Good riddance.


Well that's one less witch to keep track of ;)

But we didn't determine whether or not the region was a witch!
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Postby Kurnugia » Mon Mar 19, 2018 10:25 am

Vandario wrote:An so the miscarriage of Justice, this witch hunt is complete. At least now I can go back to isolation, and probably resign from WA/SC again. Good riddance.

It is a very good idea to abstain from voting. ;)
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Postby Tim-Opolis » Mon Mar 19, 2018 10:29 am

Splendid work, Lenlyvit. The Salt Mines will be fueled for months by the tears of silly fascists.
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Postby Jar Wattinree » Mon Mar 19, 2018 10:33 am

Lord Dominator wrote:
Sarakart wrote:
Well that's one less witch to keep track of ;)

But we didn't determine whether or not the region was a witch!
cue Holy Grail movie

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Postby West Leas Oros » Mon Mar 19, 2018 10:42 am

Caelapes wrote:
Wrapper wrote:For the record, no, that is not harassment. That's ideology-based raiding and that's been part of gameplay for some time.

At least since 2003, when The MT Army was first founded and started taking the fight to Nazis. Fifteen years this June, which is probably older than a lot of the kids in KR.

If by "Nazis" you mean anyone they happen to disagree with, then yeah.
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Postby Blood Wine » Mon Mar 19, 2018 10:44 am

Tim-Opolis wrote:Splendid work, Lenlyvit. The Salt Mines will be fueled for months by the tears of silly fascists.


I think this will be my favorite quotes for the coming months:
Tim-Opolis wrote:the immeasurable amount of Fascist Salt


Tim-Opolis wrote:The Salt Mines will be fueled for months by the tears of silly fascists.
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Postby Soviet Lestland » Mon Mar 19, 2018 11:27 am

Blood Wine wrote:
Tim-Opolis wrote:Splendid work, Lenlyvit. The Salt Mines will be fueled for months by the tears of silly fascists.


I think this will be my favorite quotes for the coming months:
Tim-Opolis wrote:the immeasurable amount of Fascist Salt


Tim-Opolis wrote:The Salt Mines will be fueled for months by the tears of silly fascists.


Maybe is hould meme it up a little.

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