[PASSED] Liberate KAISERREICH

[Jar Wattinree]

Centrism matters because it allows the best ideologies to shine through, since Fascism is an abhorrent ideology, only through public debate will Fascist ideology be discredited.

If you have to bully beliefs out of the spotlight, then you are no better than the Fascists you claim to be against.

Fighting WWII was bad because it made us no better than the Fascists we claim to be against. We should've argued Hitler out of Europe! (centrist 'logic'.)

To go full "Insane Troll Logic", fighting is bad because it makes one no better than the aggressors.

[Lenlyvit]

https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=29778811

It would seem that United Massachusettes is going to run a counter-campaign for the Fascists/Nazis.

[Caelapes]

https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=29778811

It would seem that United Massachusettes is going to run a counter-campaign for the Fascists/Nazis.

"Why would those mean evil tankies want to label us Nazi collaborators?"
—Nazi collaborators

[Lord Dominator]

Let's have some competition with this, shall we?

[Act Tas Lam]

Not for as one of the reasons is that they are Fascist and Nazi so it brings up the question if the ideology ban is remove would you ban fascism.

Would also ban free speech.

[Jar Wattinree]

Not for as one of the reasons is that they are Fascist and Nazi so it brings up the question if the ideology ban is remove would you ban fascism.

Would also ban free speech.

What is the meaning of this phrase? We're posting on a privately owned website hosted by an Australian author, not by the United States government.

[Trumps New United States]

KAISERREICH are not Nazis and the people who want this liberation want to suppress other viewpoints.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=29778811

It would seem that United Massachusettes is going to run a counter-campaign for the Fascists/Nazis.

natives*

[North Arkana]

KAISERREICH are not Nazis and the people who want this liberation want to suppress other viewpoints.

Yes yes, I'm sure there's some "very fine people" or whatever that drivel quote was. I don't particularly care. What matters is that they don't police themselves, and that free speech is worth jack all in this medium we're working with, so the SC will do it for them.

[Alcohol-Related Misconduct]

So, what, the Security Council now liberates any region holding beliefs it doesn't agree with?

[Jar Wattinree]

So, what, the Security Council now liberates any region holding beliefs it doesn't agree with?

Spreading interregional peace and goodwill, via force if necessary

[Wolfarios]

Look regarding this bill this makes no sense, you guys say that we're a pro-nazi region when your only evidence are jokes made by people in an off site server were it doesn't reflect their true ideological support at all.

Neither scansinia nor any of the previous chancellors or ministers of our region have ever promoted nazism nor have made any antisemitic remarks ever.

Yes our region encompasses a German Imperial theme but that does not make us nazis. Yes we might have one or two people in our region who might be "nazis", but they're the smallest of all minorities in our region; we have democrats, socialists, royalists, anarchists and a few communists so you can not say that we're a nazi region. Hell I'm a royalist-democratic supporter.

I understand that you might be targeting nazi regions because they're one of the biggest killers in humanity that claimed the lives of around 6 million people in the holocaust, and I support that. However, the communists also cause millions of deaths themselves, just look at Mao Zedong who made the Cultural Revolution happen mostly in an attempt to gain power back from his opponents in the communist party, and which killed 30 million chinese in the process. Or Stalin who ordered the death of about 20 - 25 million people during his control of the Soviet Union. But I don't see you guys targeting communist regions as well.

Lets just stop this farce once and for all. Doesn't matter how much you wish that Kaiserreich became the nazi paradise that you all wish existed it won't! Because we're not Nazis and we'll never be

[Alcohol-Related Misconduct]

So, what, the Security Council now liberates any region holding beliefs it doesn't agree with?

Spreading interregional peace and goodwill, via force if necessary

Ah yes, international peace and goodwill. Vague enough to mean anything, moralistic enough to justify anything.

[Caelapes]

Neither scansinia nor any of the previous chancellors or ministers of our region have ever promoted nazism nor have made any antisemitic remarks ever.

Scansinia ran to every single nazi region he could think of when The Red Fleet raided the Reichswehr Headquarters, begging for help because "JEWISH BOLSHEVIKS" had taken over. Y'know, that old anti-semitic Nazi conspiracy theory that Bolshevism (communism) was invented by Jewish people as part of their control over world politics.

[Jar Wattinree]

Spreading interregional peace and goodwill, via force if necessary

Ah yes, international peace and goodwill. Vague enough to mean anything, moralistic enough to justify anything.

Exactly.

[Wolfarios]

Look regarding this bill this makes no sense, you guys say that we're a pro-nazi region when your only evidence are jokes made by people in an off site server were it doesn't reflect their true ideological support at all.

Neither scansinia nor any of the previous chancellors or ministers of our region have ever promoted nazism nor have made any antisemitic remarks ever.

Yes our region encompasses a German Imperial theme but that does not make us nazis. Yes we might have one or two people in our region who might be "nazis", but they're the smallest of all minorities in our region; we have democrats, socialists, royalists, anarchists and a few communists so you can not say that we're a nazi region. Hell I'm a royalist-democratic supporter.

I understand that you might be targeting nazi regions because they're one of the biggest killers in humanity that claimed the lives of around 6 million people in the holocaust, and I support that. However, the communists also cause millions of deaths themselves, just look at Mao Zedong who made the Cultural Revolution happen mostly in an attempt to gain power back from his opponents in the communist party, and which killed 30 million chinese in the process. Or Stalin who ordered the death of about 20 - 25 million people during his control of the Soviet Union. But I don't see you guys targeting communist regions as well.

Lets just stop this farce once and for all. Doesn't matter how much you wish that Kaiserreich became the nazi paradise that you all wish existed it won't! Because we're not Nazis and we'll never be

Also, to any of those who say that we're being targeted because we can't police our citizens well enough you've obviously never been to our region. We have previously expelled people who have promoted Nazism in the past, just like how we've expelled people who have broken our rules as well.
No region is perfect (including our region), but we do try to keep people on the line and not outside of it.

Unless you truly have evidence demonstrating that our region might be controlled by Nazis or Nazi sympathizers then all your claims have no relevance and are false.

[Alcohol-Related Misconduct]

This resolution is completely lawless, and presents a dangerous precedent. Justice should not be carried out by mob mentality.

[West Leas Oros]

https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=29778811

It would seem that United Massachusettes is going to run a counter-campaign for the Fascists/Nazis.

Ah, I see. So anyone who disagrees that regions should be given freedom of speech is a nazi? Cool. I guess the guy who called me stupid was a nazi. Hell, everyone is a nazi! You’re a nazi, I’m a nazi, everybody is either a nazi or a nazi apologist.

[Lord Dominator]

Spreading interregional peace and goodwill, via force if necessary

Ah yes, international peace and goodwill. Vague enough to mean anything, moralistic enough to justify anything.

Who needs morality?

[West Leas Oros]

So, what, the Security Council now liberates any region holding beliefs it doesn't agree with?

Spreading interregional peace and goodwill, via force if necessary

Spreading interregional authoritarianism and ideological warfare, via force if we feel like it.

[Ceaga]

You'd think a game as old as this one would have more mature players but eh.

Even if they were fascists, they have as much right to be such as any other nation/region has the right to be genocidal communists.

No support.

[West Leas Oros]

https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=29778811

It would seem that United Massachusettes is going to run a counter-campaign for the Fascists/Nazis.

"Why would those mean evil tankies want to label us Nazi collaborators?"
—Nazi collaborators

You are an authoritarian communist. To you, everyone is a goddamn nazi!

[Caelapes]

"Why would those mean evil tankies want to label us Nazi collaborators?"
—Nazi collaborators

You are an authoritarian communist. To you, everyone is a goddamn nazi!

not other mean evil tankies

[West Leas Oros]

You are an authoritarian communist. To you, everyone is a goddamn nazi!

not other mean evil tankies

I’ll have you know, I’m a democratic socialist revisionist class traitor thank you very much.

[Lord Dominator]

Only 30 pages to descend into back and forth name-calling.
I'm impressed