Sarakart wrote:Reutoa wrote:
It's not necessarily a Huge majority of my school but people do make jokes, and I wouldn't necessarily call them Neo-Nazis or anti-Semitic, I know these people really well. Most of them are in sports and are just edgy. They're usually just looking for attention, not wanting to purge a entire race off the face of the Planet. I would hope people wouldn't punch you just because you make a bad joke, unless your ANTIFA then I wouldn't be surprised if you punched the man/women. Jokes are meant to be funny, if someone fails really badly at this, how about you just choose to ignore them and move on? The people that punch the people that told those Nazi jokes are more Fascist then them for silencing their Free Speech.
Look, it's a KR themed region that has consistent issues with Nazi jokes that they refuse to apologize for or remove members much for. If they don't want people to think those jokes are jokes, or to clamp down on them, then they need a better PR guy, because it's clear many people aren't convinced they're not Nazis. I don't care about free speech in a browser game, this isn't the government censoring civil society. Edgy people should expect that people will think their edginess is sincere bigotry, and if you are so concerned about free speech then you shouldn't be objecting to others using their free speech to call out the edgelords.
This is an extremely consistent issue with the NS right that I've seen in every attempt to unite them- poor organization, clear divisions, and the obvious fact that there are Nazis and Fascists among them. I don't necessarily think every person in the KR is a Nazi, but I'm not seeing a great deal of effort to distance themselves.La Navasse wrote:The Liberation, in my opinion, doesn't do much other than threaten the instant invasion of KR once it becomes Founderless. I find absolutely no reason why the Delegate would want to set a password while the Founder exists, so the Liberation wouldn't essentially do anything with an active Founder.
Indeed, I dislike the sort of precedent it sets. The Condemnation system has already broken down, as it allots no consequences other than a dark WA badge stamped upon the Condemned region or nation. Liberations actually do action towards a region, and therefore the author has decided that the consequences of a Liberation would be far more meaningful than a Condemnation.
We have already liberated The Communal Confederacy from KR, but it doesn't appear to have any other founderless, locked down regions.
I understand that, but what I'm asking about is why the precedent is necessarily bad. Interpretations change over time, after all, and beyond the concern about the expansion of the term I'd like some more substantive details on the problems behind using liberations this way. Personally it sounds like an interesting way to open up the game's meta to a more elastic application of liberations. Beyond changing what is normally used for liberations, what are the drawbacks?
Please name anyone in our region who is a nazi or fascist. I can only think of one possible canidate(not even sure about that one). Please feel free to check our region's poll on political beliefs. The only 3 answers for fascism is an edgy 13 year old and 2 guys who aren't even citizens
