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[PASSED] Repeal:Promoting Sustainable Timber

Postby Kranostav » Wed Feb 07, 2018 1:01 pm

[Repeal]Promoting Sustainable Timber

Resolution:GAR#422 | Proposed by: Uan aa Boa

General Assembly Resolution #422 (Category: Advancement of Industry; Industry Affected: Protective Tariffs) shall be struck out and rendered null and void

This esteemed World Assembly,

Recognizing the laudable efforts and purpose to uphold the quality of timber production in order to provide a sustainable future for timber production,

Acknowledging that a complete ban of timber and timber product imports produced in ways non-compliant with the provisions set by this and preceding resolutions would be a detriment to timber industries of non-WA member nations,

Realizing this damage to the timber industry would decrease business and lower demand, which lowers prices and forces non-compliant nations to use cost-cutting, environmentally harmful methods of production for timber,

Further noting that this ban on importation would greatly hurt trade relations between WA and non WA member nations who consume timber and timber products,

Discerning that this will force WA member nations to spend a significant amount more importing ‘sustainable’ timber, especially when other nations can undercut the sustainable market with unsustainable practices,

Concluding that this resolution will ultimately harm the sustainability of timber rather than protect it, good intentions notwithstanding.

Hereby repeals GAR#422 Promoting Sustainable Timber.


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General Assembly Resolution #422 (Category: Advancement of Industry; Industry Affected: Protective Tariffs) shall be struck out and rendered null and void

This esteemed World Assembly,

Recognizing the laudable efforts and purpose to uphold the quality of timber production in order to provide a sustainable future for timber production,

Noting that resources which are procured using standards not approved by the World Assembly should be examined,

Acknowledging that a complete ban on import of timber and any product that contains timber which was produced in a way non-compliant with the provisions set by this and preceding resolutions would prove detrimental to timber industries of non-WA member nations,

Realizing that this damage to timber industries of non-WA member nations would force said nations to use cheaper and more environmentally harmful methods to compensate for lost business with WA member nations,

Furthermore, this ban on importation would greatly hurt trade relations between WA and non WA member nations who consume or produce not only timber but any product that uses timber. This ban would force WA member nations to spend a significant amount more on the importation of ‘sustainable’ timber; especially so when the only surrounding nations who produce timber do so using ‘unsustainable’ methods,

Concluding that despite the good intentions and potential positives provided by this proposal, it will ultimately harm the sustainability of timber rather than protect it,

Hereby repeals GAR#422 Promoting Sustainable Timber.

"Any questions, comments, and/or concerns are very welcome!"

Edit 1: Minor grammatical errors
Edit 2: Minor grammatical errors
Edit 3: Removal of 'Noting' clause; Changed 'Furthermore,' to 'Further noting that'; Rewording of 'Realizing' Clause
Edit 4: Refining Language and improving delivery
Last edited by Wrapper on Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:07 am, edited 18 times in total.
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Postby Republic of Europe » Wed Feb 07, 2018 1:08 pm

It appears that many of us want this thing out, don't we?
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Postby Kranostav » Wed Feb 07, 2018 1:11 pm

Republic of Europe wrote:It appears that many of us want this thing out, don't we?

"Indeed, I am glad that we have taken notice of such things needing repeal however!"
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Postby Veniyerris » Wed Feb 07, 2018 1:14 pm

IC: Emperor Clark Lewis walks up to the stand, slightly disheveled and visibly upset
“This proposal looks good, our trade has plummeted since Promoting Sustainable Timber passed. Vote for it! Now!”
Clark Lewis took a seat, a bit happier than before

OOC: looks good :)

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Postby Deropia » Wed Feb 07, 2018 1:23 pm

Lieutenant-Commander MacAlister leans forward at his desk, adjusting his glasses as he skims over the latest repeal brought forth for Promoting Sustainable Timber.

"A well thought out and worded repeal, Ambassador. It's a shame Promoting Sustainable Timber passed in the first place and is being allowed to wreak havoc on international trade."

After a moments consideration MacAlister smiles "The delegation from Kranostav has our full support, we look forward to casting our vote 'For' when the time comes, Ambassador."
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Postby Kranostav » Wed Feb 07, 2018 1:35 pm

Veniyerris wrote:IC: Emperor Clark Lewis walks up to the stand, slightly disheveled and visibly upset
“This proposal looks good, our trade has plummeted since Promoting Sustainable Timber passed. Vote for it! Now!”
Clark Lewis took a seat, a bit happier than before

OOC: looks good :)

"Thank you for the kind words! I hope that I can help restore stability to your economy!"
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Postby Kranostav » Wed Feb 07, 2018 1:43 pm

Deropia wrote:Lieutenant-Commander MacAlister leans forward at his desk, adjusting his glasses as he skims over the latest repeal brought forth for Promoting Sustainable Timber.

"A well thought out and worded repeal, Ambassador. It's a shame Promoting Sustainable Timber passed in the first place and is being allowed to wreak havoc on international trade."

After a moments consideration MacAlister smiles "The delegation from Kranostav has our full support, we look forward to casting our vote 'For' when the time comes, Ambassador."

"Thank you very much! I am pleased that this proposal has met your standards and very grateful for your support!"
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Postby Republic of Europe » Wed Feb 07, 2018 1:46 pm

OOC: Please check my repeal too if you can!
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Postby ElectriKM » Wed Feb 07, 2018 1:49 pm

Emperor Eliot Litting looks up as his servant brings the latest WA news from his ambassador. He reads it once, then twice

He takes out a piece of parchment and writes

"A very good repeal. This is what we need. Our economy is struggling due to lack of trade with non-WA nations for timber, and we look forward for casting a for, when the resolution makes it to the vote panel"

He gives it to an assistant, who feeds it into a FTL communications machine, and sends it back to earth, to be transmitted to the nation proposing it

(OOC: It looks good. No comments here)
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Postby Frisbeeteria » Wed Feb 07, 2018 1:51 pm

Republic of Europe wrote:OOC: Please check my repeal too if you can!

Please don't advertise your topic in someone else's thread. If it's good enough, people will see it. If it's not, it will fade. That's just how it goes.

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Postby Kranostav » Wed Feb 07, 2018 1:54 pm

ElectriKM wrote:Emperor Eliot Litting looks up as his servant brings the latest WA news from his ambassador. He reads it once, then twice

He takes out a piece of parchment and writes

"A very good repeal. This is what we need. Our economy is struggling due to lack of trade with non-WA nations for timber, and we look forward for casting a for, when the resolution makes it to the vote panel"

He gives it to an assistant, who feeds it into a FTL communications machine, and sends it back to earth, to be transmitted to the nation proposing it

(OOC: It looks good. No comments here)

Fredrich notes the communication and replies,
"I ensure you that your economy will be restored soon! Thank you for your kind words and I look forward to your vote!"
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Postby Republic of Europe » Wed Feb 07, 2018 1:55 pm

Frisbeeteria wrote:
Republic of Europe wrote:OOC: Please check my repeal too if you can!

Please don't advertise your topic in someone else's thread. If it's good enough, people will see it. If it's not, it will fade. That's just how it goes.

Oh, I was not aware. I sincerely apologize
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Postby Prydania » Wed Feb 07, 2018 2:29 pm

“Wholeheartedly support.”

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Postby Kranostav » Wed Feb 07, 2018 3:42 pm

Prydania wrote:“Wholeheartedly support.”

"Many thanks for your support!"
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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Wed Feb 07, 2018 3:50 pm

General Assembly Resolution #422 (Category: Advancement of Industry; Industry Affected: Protective Tariffs) shall be struck out and rendered null and void I hope this isn't part of the text.

This esteemed World Assembly,

Recognizing the laudable efforts and purpose to uphold the quality of timber production in order to provide a sustainable future for timber production, Why is it laudable?

Noting that resources which are procured using standards not approved by the World Assembly should be examined, By whom?

Acknowledging that a complete ban on import of timber and any product that contains timber which was produced in a way non-compliant with the provisions set by this and preceding resolutions would prove detrimental to timber industries of non-WA member nations, You have an extra space in this sentence before the word 'any'.

Realizing that this damage to timber industries of non-WA member nations would force said nations to use cheaper and more environmentally harmful methods to compensate for lost business with WA member nations, Why?

Furthermore, this ban on importation would greatly hurt trade relations between WA and non WA member nations who consume or produce not only timber but any product that uses timber. This ban would force WA member nations to spend a significant amount more on the importation of ‘sustainable’ timber; especially so when the only surrounding nations who produce timber do so using ‘unsustainable’ methods. Why does this line have full stops when the other lines have commas? Why is spending more on importing sustainable timber a bad thing? Why would the last part, about unsustainable methods, happen?

Concluding that despite the good intentions and potential positives provided by this proposal, it will ultimately harm the sustainability of timber rather than protect it. Again, punctuation.

Hereby repeals GAR#422: Promoting Sustainable Timber.Don't need the colon.

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Postby Kranostav » Wed Feb 07, 2018 4:13 pm

Imperium Anglorum wrote:
General Assembly Resolution #422 (Category: Advancement of Industry; Industry Affected: Protective Tariffs) shall be struck out and rendered null and void I hope this isn't part of the text.

This esteemed World Assembly,

Recognizing the laudable efforts and purpose to uphold the quality of timber production in order to provide a sustainable future for timber production, Why is it laudable?

Noting that resources which are procured using standards not approved by the World Assembly should be examined, By whom?

Acknowledging that a complete ban on import of timber and any product that contains timber which was produced in a way non-compliant with the provisions set by this and preceding resolutions would prove detrimental to timber industries of non-WA member nations, You have an extra space in this sentence before the word 'any'.

Realizing that this damage to timber industries of non-WA member nations would force said nations to use cheaper and more environmentally harmful methods to compensate for lost business with WA member nations, Why?

Furthermore, this ban on importation would greatly hurt trade relations between WA and non WA member nations who consume or produce not only timber but any product that uses timber. This ban would force WA member nations to spend a significant amount more on the importation of ‘sustainable’ timber; especially so when the only surrounding nations who produce timber do so using ‘unsustainable’ methods. Why does this line have full stops when the other lines have commas? Why is spending more on importing sustainable timber a bad thing? Why would the last part, about unsustainable methods, happen?

Concluding that despite the good intentions and potential positives provided by this proposal, it will ultimately harm the sustainability of timber rather than protect it. Again, punctuation.

Hereby repeals GAR#422: Promoting Sustainable Timber.Don't need the colon.


I'll go ahead and address this point by point in numerical order,

1. No that is not part of the text, simply just a forward statement. I admit it is most likely not necessary.
2. The intention to ensure the protection of environment is generally agreed to be laudable no? I realize the result is much less than laudable however the efforts and general purpose is positive in theory.
3. I think I see your point here, should this work? "Noting that resources which are procured and then imported to WA member nations using standards not approved by the World Assembly should be examined,"
4. Fixed. Thank you!
5. The damage produced by the resolution would effectively hurt the businesses. It would either force them to produce timber at a higher standard and most certainly a higher cost, or lose WA business and have to compensate due to lost business.
6. a)The line possesses full stops to preserve sound grammar. It seemed to run off for far too long without them. However if you have a suggestion on how to edit it properly I would happily change it! Fixed final period
6. b) Spending more on sustainable timber could threaten nations who are operating on a razor thin budget line. It generally would be negative to force a nation to pay more for a product that, in its final stage, is the same as any other produced product.
6. c) The last part happens when non-WA member nations control the local timber supply and choose to not change their methods to abide by WA law for whatever reason they may choose.
7. Fixed
8. Fixed
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Postby Gregicstan » Wed Feb 07, 2018 4:16 pm

I am fully for this and I hope this gets resolved you have my full support for the continuation of free trade!!!
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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Wed Feb 07, 2018 4:27 pm

I'd deleting the Noting clause. I don't really see what it adds to the argument of the repeal.

Regarding what is numbered as 5, I think the link is fewer customers → less demand → lower prices → cost-cutting measures → less investment in sustainability.

For 6, you can split it up into a sublist. Also, why is paying more bad? I think that should be explicitly stated. Paying more is not principally bad, but rather, has bad consequences that themselves need to be dealt with. I think you could probably split that off into a if statement. If X, then Y. But even if that doesn't happen, Z.

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Postby Kranostav » Wed Feb 07, 2018 6:01 pm

Imperium Anglorum wrote:I'd deleting the Noting clause. I don't really see what it adds to the argument of the repeal.

Regarding what is numbered as 5, I think the link is fewer customers → less demand → lower prices → cost-cutting measures → less investment in sustainability.

For 6, you can split it up into a sublist. Also, why is paying more bad? I think that should be explicitly stated. Paying more is not principally bad, but rather, has bad consequences that themselves need to be dealt with. I think you could probably split that off into a if statement. If X, then Y. But even if that doesn't happen, Z.

Noting clause has been removed.

Regarding #5,
Realizing this damage to the timber industry would cause a decrease in demand due to a lack of WA nation business which would lower prices and subsequently force non-compliant nations to use cost-cutting, environmentally harmful methods of production for timber,

(Is that better?)

Regarding #6,
What exactly do you mean by this sub list? I could see a case for splitting it up into two separate clauses.

As for the if statement, do you mean this in regards to the end of the clause where it talks about paying more?
I suppose paying more would be bad because it could prevent some countries from acquiring timber due to cost. This could create a black market for cheap timber which would most likely be indistinguishable from 'sustainable' timber. I could include a black market aspect.
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Postby Kranostav » Wed Feb 07, 2018 6:06 pm

Gregicstan wrote:I am fully for this and I hope this gets resolved you have my full support for the continuation of free trade!!!

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Postby Igueranel » Wed Feb 07, 2018 6:12 pm

The use of 'furthermore' to begin the second clause feels a bit awkward. The previous clauses read as a continous idea, but as 'furthermore' is best used at the start of an entirely new argument, it breaks the continuity here. I would suggest that you replace it with something along the lines of 'further noting that...' so that it still reads as something connected to the previous clause. Other than that small detail, you have my complete support, I hope this proposal sees success!

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Postby Kranostav » Wed Feb 07, 2018 6:15 pm

Igueranel wrote:The use of 'furthermore' to begin the second clause feels a bit awkward. The previous clauses read as a continous idea, but as 'furthermore' is best used at the start of an entirely new argument, it breaks the continuity here. I would suggest that you replace it with something along the lines of 'further noting that...' so that it still reads as something connected to the previous clause. Other than that small detail, you have my complete support, I hope this proposal sees success!

"To be honest I was feeling similarly. I wasn't sure what to replace it with but your suggestion seems to allow the flow to continue perfectly! Thank you!

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Postby Ameriva » Wed Feb 07, 2018 8:39 pm

Amerivan ambassador to the World Assembly Lawrence F. Edwards would be sipping his coffee at his desk as he waits patiently for his turn to speak. Finally, he would chime up.

"The delegation of Kranostav has our full support in it's repeal of this frankly horrible piece of legislation, Promoting Sustainable Timber. Since it's passage, the Amerivan timber industry, which makes up for upwards of 10% of our Gross Domestic Product in the east of our nation took a significant hit, and it wont recover until this garbage is repealed. Thank you, ambassador, for writing such a well-worded repeal for this horrible resolution.

I look forward to submitting a for vote for the proposal once it reaches the floor."
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South Fallsian Ambassador Ret. Col. Stanford Brassington stands up and yells:
"All repeal, all repeal! The South Fallsian timber industry, from the colony of Canada, has gone from S/2.3 Trillion to S/19 Million in two days flat! The South Fallsian Economy Index Industrial (SFEII) fell 1,968 points yesterday, and 3,710 today! It may be the beginning of a recession!" "The prior is a terrible piece of legislation, and the South Fallsian mission will vote for it's repeal once it reaches the floor."
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Postby Kranostav » Wed Feb 07, 2018 9:28 pm

Ameriva wrote:Amerivan ambassador to the World Assembly Lawrence F. Edwards would be sipping his coffee at his desk as he waits patiently for his turn to speak. Finally, he would chime up.

"The delegation of Kranostav has our full support in it's repeal of this frankly horrible piece of legislation, Promoting Sustainable Timber. Since it's passage, the Amerivan timber industry, which makes up for upwards of 10% of our Gross Domestic Product in the east of our nation took a significant hit, and it wont recover until this garbage is repealed. Thank you, ambassador, for writing such a well-worded repeal for this horrible resolution.

I look forward to submitting a for vote for the proposal once it reaches the floor."

"Thank you for your support! Every bit counts!"

The South Falls wrote:South Fallsian Ambassador Ret. Col. Stanford Brassington stands up and yells:
"All repeal, all repeal! The South Fallsian timber industry, from the colony of Canada, has gone from S/2.3 Trillion to S/19 Million in two days flat! The South Fallsian Economy Index Industrial (SFEII) fell 1,968 points yesterday, and 3,710 today! It may be the beginning of a recession!" "This is a terrible piece of legislation, and the South Fallsian mission will vote against it once in reaches the floor."
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