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West Leas Oros
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Postby West Leas Oros » Mon Jan 08, 2018 2:17 am

Caelapes wrote:Commend The MT Army was passed 8,763 votes to 7,144.

YOU BASTARDS! YOU DOOMED NATIONSTATES TO AN AGE OF AUTHORITARIANISM AND VIOLENCE! YOU SPAT IN THE FACE OF DEMOCRACY BY COMMENDING FANATICS BENT ON THE VIOLENT SUPPRESSION OF NON ANARCHIST VIEWS! YOU HAVE STABBED POLITICAL FREEDOM IN THE BACK WITH YOUR STALINIST DICTATORSHIP! YOU ARE ENEMIES TO JUSTICE AND FREEDOM AND WILL PAY FOR YOUR CRIMES OF TERRORISM AND HATRED! -Orion Montgomery, Prime Minister of West Leas Oros and Forever Enemy of Antifa Tyrants!
Just your friendly neighborhood democratic socialist revisionist traitor.
PMT nation. Economically to the left of Karl Marx. Social justice is a bourgeois plot.
Brothers and sisters are natural enemies, like fascists and communists. Or libertarians and communists. Or social democrats and communists. Or communists and other communists! Damn commies, they ruined communism!"

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:Oros, no. Please. You were the chosen one. You were meant to debunk the tankies, not join them. Bring balance to the left, not leave it in darkness.

WLO Public News: Protest turns violent as Orosian Anarchists burn building. 2 found dead, 8 injured. Investigation continues.

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Vippertooth33
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Postby Vippertooth33 » Mon Jan 08, 2018 5:08 am

As the leader of The MT Army, and having been leader since its creation in 2003, I would like to express our gratitude for the commendation granted to our region. We are flattered and humbled by this acknowledgement, and wish to thank everyone who took part in the vote, no matter which side you cast it on, we enjoy seeing democracy in action, and what a nail biter this one was!

Contrary to what is commonly believed, The MT Army has not always been a well organised region. It began as a group of young friends learning about politics through NationStates in a region called Mariner Trench. Not so long after we began playing, the founding members of Mariner Trench, were alerted to and saw evidence of mass bullying and the promotion of hate by raiding Nazi regions.

We decided to take a stand, forming The MT Army in response to what we saw as injustice. For years we have continued that fight, collecting members from all over the world, collaborating with other like-minded and active regions, and evolvingThe MT Army’s standpoint of today.

We are incredibly proud of the example we set in the early to mid 2000’s of which has inspired many generations of NationStates players to stand up against Nazi aggression and shun their promotion of hate speech.

The achievements of The MT Army could not have been accomplished without our mighty warriors and I extend warmest thanks to all the following:

- James the Great (Sanmyaku).
- Stone Cold (Gi-Krycek).
- Shogun Lodge (Golden Hind).
- Baka Jin (Furi Kuri 2).
- Blunt Speakers.
- Mora Tau.
- North-Territories (N-T).
- Huzzah Huzzah (Sunshining).
- Cracked Deeply.
- Glugs.
- Wiener Schnitzel.
- New Born Mother Russia.
- Phuture Musick (Workers Resistance) (GDP).
- Multifarious Anarcho (Weather Underground) (GDP).
- MSCPhoenix.
- N00b_Reaper.
- Clegane.
- Pr0xy.
- L0KI.
- Mr 2000.
- Nudibranchia.
- Potlimitomaha (Nicer potlimitomaha).
- Palace Of The Rising Sun.
- Crownguard (Zeriach).
- Vietlambodiamardesh.
- Richard Cranium.
- Spartan warrior.
- Maahes.
- Mytonia
- Taylorswiftempire.
- Shovelton.
- Craziwolf.
- Chenrezig.
- Rightwingnobheads.
- Zen guerrillas (The last of the “Shadow Warriors”).
- Rindonesia.
- Sprechenland.
- Bougheyia (MT Army Reserve).
- New-Netherealm (MT Army Reserve).

It is likely I have forgotten a few over our 15 year journey, and if so I am very sorry.

I would also like to thank our major collaborators/allies:

- Pacific Defenders (Anti Nazi Alliance) (2004-2006 era)
- Soviet Union (2004-2006 era).
- Napoleonic Empire (2004-2006 era).
- Blue Moon (2004-2006 era).
- Peoples Revolutionary Party (2004-2006 era).
- Principality Of Prachya (2004-2006 era).
- Canadia (2004-2006 era).
- Far Left Military Nations (2004-2006 era).
- Global Left Alliance (2004-2006 era).
- National Bolshevik Party (2004-2006 era).
- The Black Land (2004-2006 era).
- Genesis Defense Project (2007-2009 era).
- ”Shadow Warriors” (2007-2009 era).
- Antifa.
- The Red Fleet.
- Libcom.
- North Korea.
- Korean Peoples Army.
- Regional Defense Committee.
- Union of Nations Against Fascism.
- Freedom and Justice Alliance.
- Argentina.
- Alliance of Armed Nations.
- In The Flesh/Hell.
- USSF.
- The Pacific Order (NPO).
- The South Pacific Special Forces.
- The East Pacific Sovereign Army.
- The North Pacific Army.
- Ruining Nazi Sandcastles.
- The Roman Empire.
- The Order of the Grey Wardens.
- Renegade Islands Alliance.

And to all other regions who have participated in our operations, or vice versa, we have been honoured to work with and assist you over the years.

I’d just like to conclude by addressing some of the opposite viewpoints presented in the forums and RMB about The MT Army. Firstly I believe many opposing parties found it difficult to separate The MT Army (region being commended) from the multi-organisational region known as Antifa. They also find it difficult to separate real world Antifa with the NationStates community Antifa.

Suffice to say that The MT Army has not been a participant in the ‘assaults’ on specific regions listed in those posts and we’ve taken care not to become the ‘monsters’ they mention. Additionally, speculation that members of the MT Army have real-life involvement with specific political groups are unfounded and undeserved.

Further, The MT Army does not have a unifying political ideology, and is made up of many nations with differing views on economics and politics. It would be inaccurate to say that we are a communist organisation.

Under my current administration, Antifa is not an army that fights for communistic ideals. Does it welcome those who support communism? Absolutely. It is an organisation open to ANY regions who wish to fight Nazis and Fascists on NationStates. The over representation of Communist armies in Antifa is due to the fact that historically, and at present, communist regions are much more proactive in directly fighting this particular type of enemy. If you want that to change, please feel free to join up.

To those who say I have something to hide, because as a leader I don’t disclose my political beliefs on NationStates. I would like to finish by saying that a truly successful organisation is not fuelled by the political beliefs of one leader but by the values that unite all its members. In acknowledging this, the MT Army has, and will, continue to grow in the future.

For those who are interested, I intend to document our history in a later post.

On behalf of The MT Army, and from myself, thank you all for granting us this honourable commendation,

Vippertooth33,
Leader of the MT Army.

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Kurnugia
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Postby Kurnugia » Mon Jan 08, 2018 5:45 am

West Leas Oros wrote:snip

The sad thing is, that this satire is still more accurate...
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Mon Jan 08, 2018 5:49 am

RiderSyl wrote:
Hatterleigh wrote:Well, we came close boys, but with only 3 hours left I doubt we could take the lead. Congrats to the people who were pro-commendation.


That's a somber tone for the passage of a Commendation.

Well, it's a very sad day in the history of the WA.
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Postby Dominionation » Mon Jan 08, 2018 7:20 am

Huh. This is the closest cut vote I've seen in a long time.

We tried our best, everyone.

I think there is a problem with people just voting approve on stuff because it's there. Lemming nations, so to speak. People who don't read or get in on the discussion of proposals, and that's disheartening.
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Postby Liagolas » Mon Jan 08, 2018 8:03 am

Dominionation wrote:Huh. This is the closest cut vote I've seen in a long time.

We tried our best, everyone.

I think there is a problem with people just voting approve on stuff because it's there. Lemming nations, so to speak. People who don't read or get in on the discussion of proposals, and that's disheartening.

"Hm, it hardly seems necessary to the Dominion to blame this on some kind of lemming mentality," the Mouth says. "Nations and their representatives were persuaded by what the resolution argued and presented. One 'loses' today, one 'wins' tomorrow. The Dominion is disappointed, but there will be more resolutions and with them more opportunities to persuade the voters in a different direction."
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Postby Tinhampton » Mon Jan 08, 2018 9:30 am

Dominionation wrote:Huh. This is the closest cut vote I've seen in a long time.

We tried our best, everyone.

I think there is a problem with people just voting approve on stuff because it's there. Lemming nations, so to speak. People who don't read or get in on the discussion of proposals, and that's disheartening.

How long is "a long time?" Condemn ERoGC was quashed by a much smaller margin like, what, ten months ago?
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Postby RiderSyl » Mon Jan 08, 2018 10:38 am

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
RiderSyl wrote:
That's a somber tone for the passage of a Commendation.

Well, it's a very sad day in the history of the WA.

Stop being so melodramatic.
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Postby Wolfpredator » Mon Jan 08, 2018 11:18 am

So people want to commend a region that goes after other nations that may or may not be fascist. It really looks like the Antifa is taking over nationstates or people just don't know how to read or dig into that nation or region that has been brought into the spotlight. Any and every nation is allowed to rule the way they see fit as long as there's nothing bad such as genocide, infringing basic human rights, etc. MT Army is nothing more than an alliance of twelve terrorist/rogue nations fighting for a false cause, making it seem like it's fighting for freedom when it is also fighting to take freedoms. It's an alliance with no real purpose, but to attack nations or regions that may disagree with their beliefs.
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West Leas Oros
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Postby West Leas Oros » Mon Jan 08, 2018 11:29 am

Wolfpredator wrote:So people want to commend a region that goes after other nations that may or may not be fascist. It really looks like the Antifa is taking over nationstates or people just don't know how to read or dig into that nation or region that has been brought into the spotlight. Any and every nation is allowed to rule the way they see fit as long as there's nothing bad such as genocide, infringing basic human rights, etc. MT Army is nothing more than an alliance of twelve terrorist/rogue nations fighting for a false cause, making it seem like it's fighting for freedom when it is also fighting to take freedoms. It's an alliance with no real purpose, but to attack nations or regions that may disagree with their beliefs.

True
Just your friendly neighborhood democratic socialist revisionist traitor.
PMT nation. Economically to the left of Karl Marx. Social justice is a bourgeois plot.
Brothers and sisters are natural enemies, like fascists and communists. Or libertarians and communists. Or social democrats and communists. Or communists and other communists! Damn commies, they ruined communism!"

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:Oros, no. Please. You were the chosen one. You were meant to debunk the tankies, not join them. Bring balance to the left, not leave it in darkness.

WLO Public News: Protest turns violent as Orosian Anarchists burn building. 2 found dead, 8 injured. Investigation continues.

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Postby RiderSyl » Mon Jan 08, 2018 11:44 am

Wolfpredator wrote:So people want to commend a region that goes after other nations that may or may not be fascist. It really looks like the Antifa is taking over nationstates or people just don't know how to read or dig into that nation or region that has been brought into the spotlight. Any and every nation is allowed to rule the way they see fit as long as there's nothing bad such as genocide, infringing basic human rights, etc. MT Army is nothing more than an alliance of twelve terrorist/rogue nations fighting for a false cause, making it seem like it's fighting for freedom when it is also fighting to take freedoms. It's an alliance with no real purpose, but to attack nations or regions that may disagree with their beliefs.


It's so funny when players with zero experience or knowledge of Gameplay speak about it like they're an authority on it.
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Mon Jan 08, 2018 12:01 pm

RiderSyl wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Well, it's a very sad day in the history of the WA.

Stop being so melodramatic.

But...I'm good at it. :)
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West Leas Oros
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Postby West Leas Oros » Mon Jan 08, 2018 12:09 pm

Vippertooth33 wrote:As the leader of The MT Army, and having been leader since its creation in 2003, I would like to express our gratitude for the commendation granted to our region. We are flattered and humbled by this acknowledgement, and wish to thank everyone who took part in the vote, no matter which side you cast it on, we enjoy seeing democracy in action, and what a nail biter this one was!

Contrary to what is commonly believed, The MT Army has not always been a well organised region. It began as a group of young friends learning about politics through NationStates in a region called Mariner Trench. Not so long after we began playing, the founding members of Mariner Trench, were alerted to and saw evidence of mass bullying and the promotion of hate by raiding Nazi regions.

We decided to take a stand, forming The MT Army in response to what we saw as injustice. For years we have continued that fight, collecting members from all over the world, collaborating with other like-minded and active regions, and evolvingThe MT Army’s standpoint of today.

We are incredibly proud of the example we set in the early to mid 2000’s of which has inspired many generations of NationStates players to stand up against Nazi aggression and shun their promotion of hate speech.

The achievements of The MT Army could not have been accomplished without our mighty warriors and I extend warmest thanks to all the following:

- James the Great (Sanmyaku).
- Stone Cold (Gi-Krycek).
- Shogun Lodge (Golden Hind).
- Baka Jin (Furi Kuri 2).
- Blunt Speakers.
- Mora Tau.
- North-Territories (N-T).
- Huzzah Huzzah (Sunshining).
- Cracked Deeply.
- Glugs.
- Wiener Schnitzel.
- New Born Mother Russia.
- Phuture Musick (Workers Resistance) (GDP).
- Multifarious Anarcho (Weather Underground) (GDP).
- MSCPhoenix.
- N00b_Reaper.
- Clegane.
- Pr0xy.
- L0KI.
- Mr 2000.
- Nudibranchia.
- Potlimitomaha (Nicer potlimitomaha).
- Palace Of The Rising Sun.
- Crownguard (Zeriach).
- Vietlambodiamardesh.
- Richard Cranium.
- Spartan warrior.
- Maahes.
- Mytonia
- Taylorswiftempire.
- Shovelton.
- Craziwolf.
- Chenrezig.
- Rightwingnobheads.
- Zen guerrillas (The last of the “Shadow Warriors”).
- Rindonesia.
- Sprechenland.
- Bougheyia (MT Army Reserve).
- New-Netherealm (MT Army Reserve).

It is likely I have forgotten a few over our 15 year journey, and if so I am very sorry.

I would also like to thank our major collaborators/allies:

- Pacific Defenders (Anti Nazi Alliance) (2004-2006 era)
- Soviet Union (2004-2006 era).
- Napoleonic Empire (2004-2006 era).
- Blue Moon (2004-2006 era).
- Peoples Revolutionary Party (2004-2006 era).
- Principality Of Prachya (2004-2006 era).
- Canadia (2004-2006 era).
- Far Left Military Nations (2004-2006 era).
- Global Left Alliance (2004-2006 era).
- National Bolshevik Party (2004-2006 era).
- The Black Land (2004-2006 era).
- Genesis Defense Project (2007-2009 era).
- ”Shadow Warriors” (2007-2009 era).
- Antifa.
- The Red Fleet.
- Libcom.
- North Korea.
- Korean Peoples Army.
- Regional Defense Committee.
- Union of Nations Against Fascism.
- Freedom and Justice Alliance.
- Argentina.
- Alliance of Armed Nations.
- In The Flesh/Hell.
- USSF.
- The Pacific Order (NPO).
- The South Pacific Special Forces.
- The East Pacific Sovereign Army.
- The North Pacific Army.
- Ruining Nazi Sandcastles.
- The Roman Empire.
- The Order of the Grey Wardens.
- Renegade Islands Alliance.

And to all other regions who have participated in our operations, or vice versa, we have been honoured to work with and assist you over the years.

I’d just like to conclude by addressing some of the opposite viewpoints presented in the forums and RMB about The MT Army. Firstly I believe many opposing parties found it difficult to separate The MT Army (region being commended) from the multi-organisational region known as Antifa. They also find it difficult to separate real world Antifa with the NationStates community Antifa.

Suffice to say that The MT Army has not been a participant in the ‘assaults’ on specific regions listed in those posts and we’ve taken care not to become the ‘monsters’ they mention. Additionally, speculation that members of the MT Army have real-life involvement with specific political groups are unfounded and undeserved.

Further, The MT Army does not have a unifying political ideology, and is made up of many nations with differing views on economics and politics. It would be inaccurate to say that we are a communist organisation.

Under my current administration, Antifa is not an army that fights for communistic ideals. Does it welcome those who support communism? Absolutely. It is an organisation open to ANY regions who wish to fight Nazis and Fascists on NationStates. The over representation of Communist armies in Antifa is due to the fact that historically, and at present, communist regions are much more proactive in directly fighting this particular type of enemy. If you want that to change, please feel free to join up.

To those who say I have something to hide, because as a leader I don’t disclose my political beliefs on NationStates. I would like to finish by saying that a truly successful organisation is not fuelled by the political beliefs of one leader but by the values that unite all its members. In acknowledging this, the MT Army has, and will, continue to grow in the future.

For those who are interested, I intend to document our history in a later post.

On behalf of The MT Army, and from myself, thank you all for granting us this honourable commendation,

Vippertooth33,
Leader of the MT Army.

You terrorist bastards. You'll pay for this!
Just your friendly neighborhood democratic socialist revisionist traitor.
PMT nation. Economically to the left of Karl Marx. Social justice is a bourgeois plot.
Brothers and sisters are natural enemies, like fascists and communists. Or libertarians and communists. Or social democrats and communists. Or communists and other communists! Damn commies, they ruined communism!"

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:Oros, no. Please. You were the chosen one. You were meant to debunk the tankies, not join them. Bring balance to the left, not leave it in darkness.

WLO Public News: Protest turns violent as Orosian Anarchists burn building. 2 found dead, 8 injured. Investigation continues.

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Postby Bedetopia » Mon Jan 08, 2018 12:57 pm

Geez, if you're going to oppose that resolution, make good arguments or don't post at all. You're just hurting your own side by acting like a fool.

This also applies to the recent stream of illegal repeals that were clearly written in only a few minutes.

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West Leas Oros
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Ex-Nation

Postby West Leas Oros » Mon Jan 08, 2018 1:22 pm

Bedetopia wrote:Geez, if you're going to oppose that resolution, make good arguments or don't post at all. You're just hurting your own side by acting like a fool.

This also applies to the recent stream of illegal repeals that were clearly written in only a few minutes.

Sure whatever, ya dictator. i tried to reason with these maniacs, but they refuse to end their reign of terror.
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Just your friendly neighborhood democratic socialist revisionist traitor.
PMT nation. Economically to the left of Karl Marx. Social justice is a bourgeois plot.
Brothers and sisters are natural enemies, like fascists and communists. Or libertarians and communists. Or social democrats and communists. Or communists and other communists! Damn commies, they ruined communism!"

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:Oros, no. Please. You were the chosen one. You were meant to debunk the tankies, not join them. Bring balance to the left, not leave it in darkness.

WLO Public News: Protest turns violent as Orosian Anarchists burn building. 2 found dead, 8 injured. Investigation continues.

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Bedetopia
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Postby Bedetopia » Mon Jan 08, 2018 1:27 pm

West Leas Oros wrote:
Bedetopia wrote:Geez, if you're going to oppose that resolution, make good arguments or don't post at all. You're just hurting your own side by acting like a fool.

This also applies to the recent stream of illegal repeals that were clearly written in only a few minutes.

Sure whatever, ya dictator. i tried to reason with these maniacs, but they refuse to end their reign of terror.


Maybe if you actually read the thread, you'd realize I'm also against this resolution. My dictatorship is only RP.

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West Leas Oros
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Postby West Leas Oros » Mon Jan 08, 2018 1:28 pm

West Leas Oros wrote:
Bedetopia wrote:Geez, if you're going to oppose that resolution, make good arguments or don't post at all. You're just hurting your own side by acting like a fool.

This also applies to the recent stream of illegal repeals that were clearly written in only a few minutes.



A dark age of authoritarianism and terror is rising, as criminals are made heroes for acts of violence and fear. An organization, not fighting tyranny, but shifting the burden of it. Undermining democracy and freedom in the name of justice, fighting violence and fear with blind fanaticism and hatred. They will bring a death to freedom and justice, by fighting tyranny, they become the tyranny. Violent criminals, celebrated as defenders of justice, all while trampling on democracy and freedom. Terrorists with an insatiable lust for power... and blood. An army, not of freedom and justice, but of brutish fear and hatred. Little more than thugs, criminals, murderers. Only through peace and justice can we truly topple hate. Ballots are stronger than bullets, the pen is mightier than the sword, and freedom is stronger than fear. Together we will bring true freedom to the world, not another jackbooted dictator. Fight for freedom! Against the Fascists and the Antifascists alike! show them the power of DEMOCRACY! - Orion Montgomery, Prime Minister of West Leas Oros.
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Just your friendly neighborhood democratic socialist revisionist traitor.
PMT nation. Economically to the left of Karl Marx. Social justice is a bourgeois plot.
Brothers and sisters are natural enemies, like fascists and communists. Or libertarians and communists. Or social democrats and communists. Or communists and other communists! Damn commies, they ruined communism!"

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:Oros, no. Please. You were the chosen one. You were meant to debunk the tankies, not join them. Bring balance to the left, not leave it in darkness.

WLO Public News: Protest turns violent as Orosian Anarchists burn building. 2 found dead, 8 injured. Investigation continues.

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West Leas Oros
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Postby West Leas Oros » Mon Jan 08, 2018 1:29 pm

Bedetopia wrote:
West Leas Oros wrote:Sure whatever, ya dictator. i tried to reason with these maniacs, but they refuse to end their reign of terror.


Maybe if you actually read the thread, you'd realize I'm also against this resolution. My dictatorship is only RP.

oh, sorry sir. carry on.
Just your friendly neighborhood democratic socialist revisionist traitor.
PMT nation. Economically to the left of Karl Marx. Social justice is a bourgeois plot.
Brothers and sisters are natural enemies, like fascists and communists. Or libertarians and communists. Or social democrats and communists. Or communists and other communists! Damn commies, they ruined communism!"

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:Oros, no. Please. You were the chosen one. You were meant to debunk the tankies, not join them. Bring balance to the left, not leave it in darkness.

WLO Public News: Protest turns violent as Orosian Anarchists burn building. 2 found dead, 8 injured. Investigation continues.

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West Leas Oros
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Postby West Leas Oros » Mon Jan 08, 2018 1:36 pm

we enjoy seeing democracy in action
. Liars, you're just another group of dictators operating under a false cause.
Just your friendly neighborhood democratic socialist revisionist traitor.
PMT nation. Economically to the left of Karl Marx. Social justice is a bourgeois plot.
Brothers and sisters are natural enemies, like fascists and communists. Or libertarians and communists. Or social democrats and communists. Or communists and other communists! Damn commies, they ruined communism!"

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Postby RiderSyl » Mon Jan 08, 2018 3:16 pm

West Leas Oros wrote:
we enjoy seeing democracy in action
. Liars, you're just another group of dictators operating under a false cause.

... How was that a lie? This was literally democracy in action, and I'm sure they did enjoy it.
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Kurnugia
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Ex-Nation

Postby Kurnugia » Mon Jan 08, 2018 4:19 pm

RiderSyl wrote:
West Leas Oros wrote:. Liars, you're just another group of dictators operating under a false cause.

... How was that a lie? This was literally democracy in action, and I'm sure they did enjoy it.

I am sure he is only protesting against the fact that delegates have lots of power >:)
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Glugs
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New York Times Democracy

Postby Glugs » Mon Jan 08, 2018 6:11 pm

After 12 years with the MT Army, I appreciate the commendation. I have been one of the constants in the region, taking on several roles as needed. I withheld my vote during this, as I didn’t want to move the vote in any manner, since I and my mates are the ones up for commendation. I humbly say thank you to those who have seen our efforts and have given us this honor.

This being said, I find it humorous that we are being called communists or left leaning. Personally, I’m a VERY right leaning conservative. I take issues with those who claim nazism/fascism. A common trend I have seen here is more and more nations engaging in hate speech, both on RMB posts and in chats on Discord. Impressionable people are here. They hear the ideology you spew and they engage with you until their minds have been thoroughly saturated with that hate. If you don’t think what you do makes a difference in the world, it does. And trust me when I say that change is NOT for the better. If you have any say, you should put a stop to these hateful conversations. There are some who do a role because they are WW2 fanatics (such as Woodhouse), but those individuals need to rise above the hate and help others to see that it is just a role, not their true ideology. Unfortunately, this is not what I’m seeing on the majority of Fascist tagged RMBs and Discord. Despite his criticism of us, I have a level of respect for Woodhouse because he truly is not Nazi and he tried to put an end to this type of discussion on Discord and in NE. This action is the only reason we have chosen on occasion to work alongside him.I will continue to fight this fight, to stop Fascist, racist and Nazi ideals from taking over regions and affecting the impressionable.
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Ikania
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Postby Ikania » Mon Jan 08, 2018 6:29 pm

I opposed the resolution because of my problems with the writing of the text, however now that all is said and done I can only congratulate the MT Army for their years of dedication, despite it all. This was obviously years in the making, and given that the flaws probably don't warrant a repeal outright, I hope the MT Army can enjoy their hard-earned recognition in the halls of the Assembly for epochs to come.

i really wanted to use the word epoch
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Postby Fauxia » Mon Jan 08, 2018 8:40 pm

Tinhampton wrote:
Dominionation wrote:Huh. This is the closest cut vote I've seen in a long time.

We tried our best, everyone.

I think there is a problem with people just voting approve on stuff because it's there. Lemming nations, so to speak. People who don't read or get in on the discussion of proposals, and that's disheartening.

How long is "a long time?" Condemn ERoGC was quashed by a much smaller margin like, what, ten months ago?
Lost by a 51-49 margin, I believe.

Congrats to the MT Army on their commendation. I did oppose the resolution, and would support its repeal, but I do believe y’all deserve a commendation. I simply oppose the writing of this resolution
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Postby Tim-Opolis » Mon Jan 08, 2018 8:49 pm

West Leas Oros wrote:
we enjoy seeing democracy in action
. Liars, you're just another group of dictators operating under a false cause.

Drank a bit too much cool aid buddy?

Also, you know you can edit posts yes? No need to quadruple post and triple post.
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