[PASSED] Commend The MT Army

[Greater vakolicci haven]

Fascism accusations (both real and unfounded) aside, you are using raiding to suppress the political opinions of other nations and regions. Neither do you even define what makes a nation "fascist". Is it being just left wing of full on communism? Is all right wing ideology considered fascist?

This is an thinly veiled attempt to have the WA endorse a militant communist region that raids others not even affiliated with the r/d mechanics of modern raiding.

Militant Anti-Fascism is admirable when in retaliation to raiding, but apparently even peaceful "fascist" regions are given the green light for anti fascists to raid and eject everyone who is a supposed "fascist."

If you didn't already infer, I am against this resolution because it encourages the Anti-Facist movement to continue to target both peaceful and r/d right wing nations to institute Communiam and destroy them.

The Red Fleet is a militant communist region already commended

For the most part, TRF is antifascist, but it is a left-wing region and some of its actions haven’t been entirely antifascist

Just because the WA made one cockup, it doesn't mean that cockups should become fashionable.

[RiderSyl]

Just because the WA made one cockup, it doesn't mean that cockups should become fashionable.

So naturally you'll back up that talk by submitting a draft to Repeal that 'cockup', right?

[Liberty Navy]

Vote Against and destroy hypocrisy on NS once and for all

[The Eden of the East]

Vote Against and destroy hypocrisy on NS once and for all

Hypocrisy is too deeply rooted. The Security Council has zero legitimacy unless https://www.nationstates.net/page=WA_pa ... /council=2 is repealed, it should be in fact condemned. First tag of The Red Fleet is Anti-Capitalist and it's easy to see they have no qualms about invading regions solely on ideological grounds.
https://www.nationstates.net/region=libertarians
"This hostile capitalist region has been secured by the nautical brothers and sisters of The Red Fleet!"

https://web.archive.org/web/20141018172 ... bertarians
"Welcome to the region of FREEDOM. Here is where we live with our neighbors in peace and don't fight wars of aggression. If you're a friend to liberty and an enemy of tyrants, then you're welcome here. A side note, our embassies do not in any way represent an alliance with or support for a region's ideology or agenda, they only represent a way to maintain friendly contact between regions, nothing more.

Anyone who wishes to live in peace with their neighbor nations is welcome here!"
Yes, it's the same region, it wasn't refounded by bad guys in the meantime.
From Libertarians Regional Happenings:
"2 years 161 days ago: The Armed Republic of The Red Fortress proposed constructing embassies with The Red Fleet."

https://www.nationstates.net/region=ant ... n_alliance
"LEFTIST SOLIDARITY ACTION -- OPERATION MUSEUM -- THE RED FLEET · KOREAN PEOPLES ARMY · CENTRAL DEFENSE AGENCY

...the faint sound of clinking bottles drifts over the ruined buildings...

This region, for their role as a participant in the attack on the Congress of Armed Proletarian States, was LinkCRUSHED UNDERFOOT BY THE ~*~*~SpOoKy ScArY sKeLeToN mOnStEr~*~*~ OF LEFT UNITY of the Nautical Brothers and Sisters of THE RED FLEET and their Comrades-in-Arms, the KOREAN PEOPLES ARMY of North Korea and the Central Defense Agency of THE DEMOCRATIC SOCIALIST UNION, with support from THE COMMUNIST REGION, in a retaliatory strike!"

https://web.archive.org/web/20150521134 ... n_alliance
"- Freethinking Area -
Today's Quote:
"There is no peace now, and there will never be peace, so long as one rules over another." -Voltairine de Cleyre

LinkAnarchopedia's List of Anarchist Web Sources
LinkCenter for a Stateless Society
LinkLibcom.org
LinkAlliance of the Libertarian Left
LinkAnarchism (Wikipedia)
LinkFundamentals of Voluntaryism
LinkThe Anarchist Library
LinkAnarchy Archives
LinkAnarchism.net
LinkMolinari Institute (About Market Anarchism and List of Resources)
LinkCrimethInc
LinkLibertarian Socialist Rants (Youtube)
LinkAdam vs The Man (YouTube)
LinkMarkets Not Capitalism (PDF)
LinkThe Left-Libertarian (Youtube)
LinkCop Block
LinkThe Conquest of Bread by Peter Kropotkin (PDF)
LinkAnarcho-Syndicalism: Theory and Practice by Rudolf Rocker (PDF)
LinkIndividualist Anarchist Resources"

[Caelapes]

Those interested in the reasoning for The Red Fleet's destruction of those regions may telegram me so as not to derail any further the thread related to the commendation of an entirely separate, non-leftist military.

[Hogwarts Pride]

This is an outrage!!!!! It is absolutely disgraceful that this International body would even consider commending these liberal fascists. The MT Army participates in the oppression of conservative beliefs and ideas, and any other political views they deem intolerable. We can not sanction such appalling behavior and encourage these liberal fascists to continue their thuggery.

[Codd]

The MT Army is the spearhead of the TERRORIST region ANTIFA. They have made no secret of their hatred of any nation and region that does not prescribe to their radical leftist views and brands them as "fascists" and "hatemongers". This is not the ideology of a region that seeks to liberate the oppressed, but a region that seeks to control the very thoughts of people and oppress those who dare to hold different views. They have raided and destroyed countless regions, including my own. The MT Army gleefully fills the role as Antifa's Gestapo and is the pillar that supports Antifa's Liberal Nazism.

[Kurnugia]

This is an outrage!!!!! It is absolutely disgraceful that this International body would even consider commending these liberal fascists. The MT Army participates in the oppression of conservative beliefs and ideas, and any other political views they deem intolerable. We can not sanction such appalling behavior and encourage these liberal fascists to continue their thuggery.

Liberal. Fascist. I... I just don't know what to say about that.

[Bedetopia]

This is an outrage!!!!! It is absolutely disgraceful that this International body would even consider commending these liberal fascists. The MT Army participates in the oppression of conservative beliefs and ideas, and any other political views they deem intolerable. We can not sanction such appalling behavior and encourage these liberal fascists to continue their thuggery.

Liberal. Fascist. I... I just don't know what to say about that.

Liberal ideas, fascist implementation (authoritarian, forcing it on everyone so that they have the same mindset). It's not impossible.

[States of Glory]

A vote AGAINST is just perfect for a bunch of warmongering thugs hiding behind their mask of "anti-fascism".

Not if the votes FOR are of a greater number.

[Tim-Opolis]

My favorite part of the Security Council is individual nations thinking they can affect the outcome of the resolution with their sensationalized, half-coherent outrage of one post and then forgetting about the thread.

This has hilariously become even more accurate as the vote goes on.

[Kurnugia]

Liberal. Fascist. I... I just don't know what to say about that.

Liberal ideas, fascist implementation (authoritarian, forcing it on everyone so that they have the same mindset). It's not impossible.

Wouldn't authoritarian liberal be the right word then? Because fascism describes a great deal more. Regardless it would be still a philosophical oxymoron since liberalism is founded upon the idea of freedom.

this is getting OT if you want to discuss it more, we should take it to another place.

[JodyStewartLand]

I vote, "Yes".

[Codd]

The Prime Minister ascends to the podium and clears his throat.

As you already know, The MT Army has been nominated for a commendation from the World Assembly Security Council. However, I can not, in God's good name, fathom any legitimate reason why The MT Army should receive such an honor from this distinguished international body. The activities of The MT Army warrant a condemnation rather than a commendation. The MT Army is the muscle of the Leftist Nazi region known as ANTIFA. More specifically, The MT Army is the main invasion force and the Gestapo for ANTIFA. The MT Army has aided Antifa and its allies in invading any region that did not prescribe to the far left ideology of ANTIFA, countless regions have been destroyed at the hands of The MT Army, including my own. The MT Army has taken part in spreading Leftist Nazism and the silencing of alternate views, especially conservative and right-wing views and ideas. As The MT Army and its allies state, they fight injustice and hate, yet what they really mean is that any ideology they do not agree with is "fascist" and "hatemongering". They fight what they disagree with and celebrate the trampling of free speech and the freedom of having your own ideas. Recently, there has been more anti-conservative sentiment which has allowed The MT Army to continue with their activities and has even encouraged them to do so. It is the RIGHT of EVERY region to have complete autonomy and the ability to follow any ideology and form of government it chooses. The MT Army stands against freedom and the rights of the people. Some nations and regions and even factions within the World Assembly may want to negotiate with these Leftist Nazis, but these tyrants cannot be negotiated with. Like a rabid animal, these Leftist Nazis are incapable of reason and tolerance of other views and ideologies. For many months now, Codd and its allies have led the fight against this new form of Nazism, and while the road has been long and hard and will continue to be so, we will never give in, we will fight them with every method available. We will continue to fight the Leftist Nazis with all our strength and will, and should Codd and its allies fall to the sickening rule of these Leftist Nazis, others will rise and continue the fight. While the World Assembly may applaud the tyranny of the MT Army and its allies, this war will go on. We are at war with these modern-day Nazis, and only the complete death and annihilation of The MT Army's enemies or the unconditional surrender of ANTIFA, The MT Army, and their allies will end this war. Some of you might call me a fascist and a warmonger, but I say this; The MT Army and its allies have struck the first blow, they have drawn first blood, they have made it undoubtedly clear that they want the destruction of any and all ideologies that they disagree with and the complete oppression of those who oppose their Leftist Nazi ideology. I call upon all nations and regions to stand against them and fight them through diplomatic means and military means. ANTIFA and its Gestapo, The MT Army, cannot be reasoned with, they have been brainwashed and turned into unredeemable fanatics to a poisonous ideology. No matter how long, no matter how difficult, total victory over these fanatics must be achieved at all costs, otherwise, this world will fall under the rule of these despicable tyrants. I thank you, the leaders of the world's nations and region for your time.

The Prime Minister descends from the podium and exits the auditorium.

[Frisbeeteria]

The Prime Minister of Codd's speech regarding the MT Army

Use the main thread in future. Merged.

[RiderSyl]

The tally of 4400-2300 in the individual nation vote, and 2000-1500 in the misc. delegate vote, is really interesting to see. Good job to those who ran campaigns in favor of this proposal.

I always love it when the little people make a major impact the SC, despite a vote-stack by the big delegates. It's like a democratic version of David vs. Goliath.

[Bedetopia]

The tally of 4400-2300 in the individual nation vote, and 2000-1500 in the misc. delegate vote, is really interesting to see. Good job to those who ran campaigns in favor of this proposal.

I always love it when the little people make a major impact the SC, despite a vote-stack by the big delegates. It's like a democratic version of David vs. Goliath.

Or it's the Lemming effect. Who knows.

[Caelapes]

The tally of 4400-2300 in the individual nation vote, and 2000-1500 in the misc. delegate vote, is really interesting to see. Good job to those who ran campaigns in favor of this proposal.

I always love it when the little people make a major impact the SC, despite a vote-stack by the big delegates. It's like a democratic version of David vs. Goliath.

Was there a telegram campaign in favor of this resolution? I didn't run one, except to get it into the queue. I know there was a reactionary campaign attempting to get people to vote against.

[Hatterleigh]

Well, we came close boys, but with only 3 hours left I doubt we could take the lead. Congrats to the people who were pro-commendation.

[RiderSyl]

Well, we came close boys, but with only 3 hours left I doubt we could take the lead. Congrats to the people who were pro-commendation.

That's a somber tone for the passage of a Commendation.

[Caelapes]

Commend The MT Army was passed 8,763 votes to 7,144.

[Princess Luna Gangleader of Boil Heights]

Close vote. I'm not with favoritism.

[West Leas Oros]

A dark age of authoritarianism and terror is rising, as criminals are made heroes for acts of violence and fear. An organization, not fighting tyranny, but shifting the burden of it. Undermining democracy and freedom in the name of justice, fighting violence and fear with blind fanaticism and hatred. They will bring a death to freedom and justice, by fighting tyranny, they become the tyranny. Violent criminals, celebrated as defenders of justice, all while trampling on democracy and freedom. Terrorists with an insatiable lust for power... and blood. An army, not of freedom and justice, but of brutish fear and hatred. Little more than thugs, criminals, murderers. Only through peace and justice can we truly topple hate. Ballots are stronger than bullets, the pen is mightier than the sword, and freedom is stronger than fear. Together we will bring true freedom to the world, not another jackbooted dictator. Fight for freedom! Against the Fascists and the Antifascists alike! show them the power of DEMOCRACY! - Orion Montgomery, Prime Minister of West Leas Oros.

[West Leas Oros]

The Prime Minister ascends to the podium and clears his throat.

As you already know, The MT Army has been nominated for a commendation from the World Assembly Security Council. However, I can not, in God's good name, fathom any legitimate reason why The MT Army should receive such an honor from this distinguished international body. The activities of The MT Army warrant a condemnation rather than a commendation. The MT Army is the muscle of the Leftist Nazi region known as ANTIFA. More specifically, The MT Army is the main invasion force and the Gestapo for ANTIFA. The MT Army has aided Antifa and its allies in invading any region that did not prescribe to the far left ideology of ANTIFA, countless regions have been destroyed at the hands of The MT Army, including my own. The MT Army has taken part in spreading Leftist Nazism and the silencing of alternate views, especially conservative and right-wing views and ideas. As The MT Army and its allies state, they fight injustice and hate, yet what they really mean is that any ideology they do not agree with is "fascist" and "hatemongering". They fight what they disagree with and celebrate the trampling of free speech and the freedom of having your own ideas. Recently, there has been more anti-conservative sentiment which has allowed The MT Army to continue with their activities and has even encouraged them to do so. It is the RIGHT of EVERY region to have complete autonomy and the ability to follow any ideology and form of government it chooses. The MT Army stands against freedom and the rights of the people. Some nations and regions and even factions within the World Assembly may want to negotiate with these Leftist Nazis, but these tyrants cannot be negotiated with. Like a rabid animal, these Leftist Nazis are incapable of reason and tolerance of other views and ideologies. For many months now, Codd and its allies have led the fight against this new form of Nazism, and while the road has been long and hard and will continue to be so, we will never give in, we will fight them with every method available. We will continue to fight the Leftist Nazis with all our strength and will, and should Codd and its allies fall to the sickening rule of these Leftist Nazis, others will rise and continue the fight. While the World Assembly may applaud the tyranny of the MT Army and its allies, this war will go on. We are at war with these modern-day Nazis, and only the complete death and annihilation of The MT Army's enemies or the unconditional surrender of ANTIFA, The MT Army, and their allies will end this war. Some of you might call me a fascist and a warmonger, but I say this; The MT Army and its allies have struck the first blow, they have drawn first blood, they have made it undoubtedly clear that they want the destruction of any and all ideologies that they disagree with and the complete oppression of those who oppose their Leftist Nazi ideology. I call upon all nations and regions to stand against them and fight them through diplomatic means and military means. ANTIFA and its Gestapo, The MT Army, cannot be reasoned with, they have been brainwashed and turned into unredeemable fanatics to a poisonous ideology. No matter how long, no matter how difficult, total victory over these fanatics must be achieved at all costs, otherwise, this world will fall under the rule of these despicable tyrants. I thank you, the leaders of the world's nations and region for your time.

The Prime Minister descends from the podium and exits the auditorium.

As a fellow Prime Minister and defender of democracy, I fully approve this Message. If we unite, the MT Tyrants will fall!- Orion Montgomery, Prime Minister of West Leas Oros.

[West Leas Oros]

The MT Army is the spearhead of the TERRORIST region ANTIFA. They have made no secret of their hatred of any nation and region that does not prescribe to their radical leftist views and brands them as "fascists" and "hatemongers". This is not the ideology of a region that seeks to liberate the oppressed, but a region that seeks to control the very thoughts of people and oppress those who dare to hold different views. They have raided and destroyed countless regions, including my own. The MT Army gleefully fills the role as Antifa's Gestapo and is the pillar that supports Antifa's Liberal Nazism.

Where is your region? I would like to do some scouting, see what those Antifa Tyrants did.