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[PASSED] Commend The MT Army

Postby Caelapes » Mon Dec 25, 2017 9:15 am

The Security Council,

Recognizing that the MT Army was founded as the armed wing of Mariner Trench on June 22, 2003, and has been a dedicated and widely-respected anti-fascist and anti-Nazi military force over the past fourteen years;

Emphasizing the importance of the MT Army, which worked alongside the Pacific Defenders, also known as Anti Nazi Alliance, in the early-to-mid-2000s as the vanguard of antifascist and anti-Nazi military efforts;

Pointing to the MT Army's invaluable contributions to the fight against hatred throughout NationStates, which includes
  • the destruction of hate-filled regions such as The URAP, an ancient Nazi region that had been a member of The Aryan Army;
  • assisting with the destruction of NAZI EUROPE in June 2014 and with the destruction of the Greater German Reich in November 2015, which had formerly been the largest and most detestable Nazi regions in the world;
  • administering Antifa, an association of antifascist military-focused regions, through the MT Army Leader Vippertooth33's control of its founding nation;
  • protecting the legacy of antifascist action in the world, including helping to maintain the region Genesis Defense Project and serving as custodians of Anti Nazi Alliance, which, like the MT Army, were both leaders in the antifascist struggle; and
  • maintaining control of hundreds of shut-down former Nazi regions as an ever-expanding museum against hate;

Pointing further to the MT Army's influence, support, guidance, and inspiration to later generations of antifascist militaries, such as

Insisting that the MT Army's current activities indicate a continuing commitment by the MT Army to the mission it established for itself over a decade ago, and that this long-term dedication to its cause is deserving of recognition; hereby

Vehemently Commends The MT Army.
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Postby United Massachusetts » Mon Dec 25, 2017 9:48 am

I am in support.

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Postby Lenlyvit » Mon Dec 25, 2017 11:37 am

Full support from me as well.
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Postby Ikania » Mon Dec 25, 2017 11:43 am

Might get more people on the commendation train if you don't hype up the North Korean Army when talking about fighting oppression. The rest is pretty solid, though. MT Army deserves it.
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Postby Fauxia » Mon Dec 25, 2017 4:48 pm

Are you preying on giddy Christmas emotions to pass a commend? :p

The writing’s good, not sure whether I will vote for, though I lean towards it
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Postby Queen Yuno » Mon Dec 25, 2017 5:01 pm

Forgive me for this probably obvious question, but is this a Self Commend?
Not that I won't support.
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Postby Caelapes » Mon Dec 25, 2017 5:10 pm

Queen Yuno wrote:Forgive me for this probably obvious question, but is this a Self Commend?
Not that I won't support.
You guys are interesting and talented :3

No. I am not and have never been a member of The MT Army. The Red Fleet is happy to consider them close allies and our comrades, but we are separate militaries.

Fauxia wrote:Are you preying on giddy Christmas emotions to pass a commend? :p

The writing’s good, not sure whether I will vote for, though I lean towards it

Nah, just figured this was well overdue and had the free time to get it drafted. :P
    
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Postby Lenlyvit » Mon Dec 25, 2017 5:10 pm

Queen Yuno wrote:Forgive me for this probably obvious question, but is this a Self Commend?
Not that I won't support.
You guys are interesting and talented :3

No Yuno, Caelapes is from TRF.

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Postby Ransium » Mon Dec 25, 2017 5:31 pm

I'm sure if you had waited for more than a few hours on Christmas someone might have had the chance to point out that:

in the early-to-mid-2000s as the vanguard of antifascist and anti-Nazi military gameplay;


Is a clear-cut R4(c) violation and I have therefore marked it as illegal.

Insisting that the MT Army's current activities as a part of Antifa and Ruining Nazi Sandcastles are indicative of an active and commendable region


This also I would like re-written as it basically suggests activities rather than the target are commendable.

Please consider drafting for a while before re-submitting.
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Postby The Stalker » Mon Dec 25, 2017 10:22 pm

Strong support for this, The MT Army is a great and devoted group who have more than earned it.
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Postby Iron Laos » Mon Dec 25, 2017 11:19 pm

No support for attempting submission without draft.
Anyways, I don't want a region to be commended because they don't like one ideology, it's wrong. In NS, all ideologies should be treated fairly and be allowed their place.

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Postby Iron Laos » Mon Dec 25, 2017 11:34 pm

And don't think I'm biased because I'm in the Iron Order, because it really is horrible that regions get commended for destroying whole regions because of their political status
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Postby Oresland » Tue Dec 26, 2017 5:55 am

Iron Laos wrote:No support for attempting submission without draft.
Anyways, I don't want a region to be commended because they don't like one ideology, it's wrong. In NS, all ideologies should be treated fairly and be allowed their place.


"Not that I support fascists, but I agree. The fact that regions like ANTIFA and the MT Army use tactics like those of the fascists/nazi regions is very hypocritical. If this passes through the approval stage, then I might vote for. But, in the mean time, I won't be approving this proposal."
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Postby Fauxia » Tue Dec 26, 2017 7:19 am

Iron Laos wrote:No support for attempting submission without draft.
Anyways, I don't want a region to be commended because they don't like one ideology, it's wrong. In NS, all ideologies should be treated fairly and be allowed their place.
Y’all literally invade communists how can you believe that?
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Postby Fauxia » Tue Dec 26, 2017 7:21 am

Oresland wrote:
Iron Laos wrote:No support for attempting submission without draft.
Anyways, I don't want a region to be commended because they don't like one ideology, it's wrong. In NS, all ideologies should be treated fairly and be allowed their place.


"Not that I support fascists, but I agree. The fact that regions like ANTIFA and the MT Army use tactics like those of the fascists/nazi regions is very hypocritical. If this passes through the approval stage, then I might vote for. But, in the mean time, I won't be approving this proposal."
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Postby Attempted Socialism » Tue Dec 26, 2017 7:45 am

Iron Laos wrote:No support for attempting submission without draft.
Anyways, I don't want a region to be commended because they don't like one ideology, it's wrong. In NS, all ideologies should be treated fairly and be allowed their place.

Sounds like they do treat nazi region fairly. Getting their just due is quite fair, I'd say.


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Postby Oresland » Tue Dec 26, 2017 9:13 am

Fauxia wrote:“Antifascists and fascists both breathe! Hypocrites!”


"Is that supposed to mean something ambassador?"
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Postby Fauxia » Tue Dec 26, 2017 10:43 am

Oresland wrote:
Fauxia wrote:“Antifascists and fascists both breathe! Hypocrites!”


"Is that supposed to mean something ambassador?"
“It is only the practical conclusion of your argument, ambassador.”
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Postby Milwalkiee » Tue Dec 26, 2017 10:51 am

Not sure if this matters, but...

Ardchoille wrote:TIP: Don’t use links in the text of your proposal. Successful proposals – resolutions – go into the permanent records of the World Assembly. But links die: the server shifts, posts gets deleted, whatever. The WA Librarian doesn’t like his records being messed up with dead links. Links in your proposal will make it illegal.
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Postby Caelapes » Tue Dec 26, 2017 10:56 am

Milwalkiee wrote:Not sure if this matters, but...

Ardchoille wrote:TIP: Don’t use links in the text of your proposal. Successful proposals – resolutions – go into the permanent records of the World Assembly. But links die: the server shifts, posts gets deleted, whatever. The WA Librarian doesn’t like his records being messed up with dead links. Links in your proposal will make it illegal.

That's referring to external links. This proposal only uses the [region] and [nation] tags to link internally to NationStates entities.
    
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Postby The Atlae Isles » Tue Dec 26, 2017 11:35 am

The submission was all very...quick.

Well written, though!
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Postby Iron Buddha » Tue Dec 26, 2017 7:15 pm

No offence but credit is where it's due.

Genesis Defense Project not only saved itself :blink: but also alongside our yin side the Shadow Warriors, rescued the MT Army them very selves and handed it back to Vipp him so self. :bow:

May not mean much to peeps here but worth mentioning.

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Postby Caelapes » Tue Dec 26, 2017 7:36 pm

Iron Buddha wrote:No offence but credit is where it's due.

Genesis Defense Project not only saved itself :blink: but also alongside our yin side the Shadow Warriors, rescued the MT Army them very selves and handed it back to Vipp him so self. :bow:

May not mean much to peeps here but worth mentioning.

I did know about GDP/Shadow Warriors' rescue of The MT Army and think it'd be appropriate for someone to mention that in a future Commendation of GDP.

The clause in which GDP is mentioned serves to illuminate The MT Army's role in keeping regions safe - Anti Nazi Alliance as a refound-save by MT Army and Genesis Defense Project because The MT Army's leader, Vipp, controls 1/3 of the nations keeping that region from CTEing. Both of these are things that keep the legacy of antifascist groups alive on NationStates. I certainly wasn't trying to overstate or mislead folks about their role.
    
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Postby Iron Buddha » Wed Dec 27, 2017 10:52 am

Caelapes wrote:
Iron Buddha wrote:No offence but credit is where it's due.

Genesis Defense Project not only saved itself :blink: but also alongside our yin side the Shadow Warriors, rescued the MT Army them very selves and handed it back to Vipp him so self. :bow:

May not mean much to peeps here but worth mentioning.


I did know about GDP/Shadow Warriors' rescue of The MT Army and think it'd be appropriate for someone to mention that in a future Commendation of GDP.

The clause in which GDP is mentioned serves to illuminate The MT Army's role in keeping regions safe - Anti Nazi Alliance as a refound-save by MT Army and Genesis Defense Project because The MT Army's leader, Vipp, controls 1/3 of the nations keeping that region from CTEing. Both of these are things that keep the legacy of antifascist groups alive on NationStates. I certainly wasn't trying to overstate or mislead folks about their role.


It may have been a little pedantic of me to bring that up especially in light of Vipp's manifold achievements and the (ongoing) unsurpassed work of the MT but it was intended purely and simply for the record, more so as the GDP/SW are now no longer functioning entities.

As initially stated, there was no offence intended. :oops:

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Postby Republic of Minerva » Mon Jan 01, 2018 12:40 pm

Is Antifa still looking for more self congratulatory fake badges through the SC? Tsk, tsk.

I remind the SC that all these far left regions are connected and they have no qualms against raiding anyone who they deem "fascist," even non-gameplay oriented or center-left regions.
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