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[DEFEATED] Commend Auralia

Postby United Massachusetts » Mon Dec 18, 2017 10:42 am

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Commend Auralia
Category: Commendation | Nominee: Auralia | Proposed by: United Massachusetts

Recalling that this august council ought to award recognition to only the most accomplished nations, especially those who have significantly advanced global peace and goodwill in a number of different contexts,

Submitting that after years of service in a variety of contexts, Auralia has cleared this highest bar and soared beyond it,

Amazed that Auralia and its subsidiary, Railana, have together authored an astounding twenty-three General Assembly resolutions, including, but not limited to:
  1. Minimum Standard of Living Act, which compels member nations to provide a minimum standard of living to citizens thereof, a significant advance for the cause of social justice,
  2. Convention on Internet Neutrality, which established the strong net neutrality protections that prevent corporate censorship of the internet,
  3. WA Development Foundation, which created an organization of the same namesake to oversee research and action in regards to socioeconomic development of impoverished nations,
  4. Convention on Foreign Political Corruption,which prevented nations from bribing or otherwise corrupting foreign officials,
  5. Ban on Statutory Limitations for Heinous Crimes, which compelled member nations to to bring the worst criminals to justice,
Noting that among these twenty resolutions are eight repeals of fundamentally flawed legislation, such as:
  1. Repeal "Internet Net Neutrality Act", which repealed a resolution that, on top of its hideous title, prohibited standard practices in the provision of internet service,
  2. Repeal "The General Patent Charter", which repealed a far too vague resolution governing patent law,
Lauding Auralia's development of countless tools, such as NS AutoTelegram, a platform used to facilitate international communication, and NSLogin, a tool used to assist member nations in controlling their more rowdy subsidiaries,

Appreciating their intellectual contributions to these nation-states, through the authorship of such essays as "Realism in the General Assembly", which provided a strong case for the repeal of GAR #2 and the subsequent establishment of alternative, more realistic legislation,

Praising their dedicated service in numerous regions, both in The East Pacific as a World Assembly advisor and their home region of Catholic,

Disapproving of Auralia’s attempt to self-commend, an unfortunate lapse in judgement from their particularly upright delegation for which they have since apologized and repented profusely,

Believing, therefore, that one mistake ought not to drown out the real achievements of an incredibly worthy nominee,

This most mighty and august Security Council, invoking the power of its name with the advice and consent of the Delegates and member-nations thereof, and by the authority of the same, hereby commends Auralia.


Let's face it, y'all--Auralia's actions themselves are highly commendable. One mistake shouldn't take that away.
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Postby Herby » Mon Dec 18, 2017 10:53 am

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Postby United Massachusetts » Mon Dec 18, 2017 10:55 am

Herby wrote:It’s unforgivable when someone WA multi’s just to self-commend. Ain’t happenin’.

I get your point (though I don't agree with it), and, to be fair, I didn't consult with them before drafting. Going to delete this just for now.
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Postby Tim-Opolis » Mon Dec 18, 2017 4:52 pm

Herby wrote:It’s unforgivable when someone WA multi’s just to self-commend. Ain’t happenin’.

Given that this quote means this thread is for a now-deleted Commend Auralia, fully opposed to it whenever you do bring it up again.
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Postby Consular » Tue Dec 19, 2017 4:08 am

Tim-Opolis wrote:
Herby wrote:It’s unforgivable when someone WA multi’s just to self-commend. Ain’t happenin’.

Given that this quote means this thread is for a now-deleted Commend Auralia, fully opposed to it whenever you do bring it up again.

I made a similar guess and have the same response.

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Postby The New California Republic » Tue Dec 19, 2017 4:13 am

Herby wrote:It’s unforgivable when someone WA multi’s just to self-commend. Ain’t happenin’.

OOC: Shameless, absolutely shameless. How underhand for anyone to actually try this and think that they would get away with it.
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Postby Sciongrad » Tue Dec 19, 2017 9:55 am

No offense to those that have posted so far, but this blackballing of Auralia is, at best, a pretext for opposing someone with conservative values and, and worst, evinces a sad tendency among some players here to conflate in-game decision-making with personal morality. Yeah, Auralia tried to self-commend like four years ago. I guarantee most have us have done worse things in the past month. So drop the self-righteousness, it comes across as a little pathetic, honestly.

I have to see a draft, but I strongly support the idea of commending Auralia.
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Postby The New California Republic » Tue Dec 19, 2017 10:19 am

Sciongrad wrote:No offense to those that have posted so far, but this blackballing of Auralia is, at best, a pretext for opposing someone with conservative values

OOC: Not really. I am judging the behavior based on its own merits, the fact that a conservative nation did it is entirely irrelevant. I would heap on the same scorn even if a close friend indulged in this kind of behavior, and they would be free and entirely justified to heap the same scorn on me.

Sciongrad wrote:evinces a sad tendency among some players here to conflate in-game decision-making with personal morality.

OOC: I'm not sure that is what was happening here.

Sciongrad wrote:Yeah, Auralia tried to self-commend like four years ago. I guarantee most have us have done worse things in the past month. So drop the self-righteousness, it comes across as a little pathetic, honestly.

OOC: I wouldn't say it is pathetic to remember relatively recent past misdeeds, but OK.
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Postby Queen Yuno » Tue Dec 19, 2017 10:55 am

Lmao Auralia tried to self-commend FOUR years ago? Who fucking cares.

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Postby United Massachusetts » Tue Dec 19, 2017 10:57 am

Queen Yuno wrote:Lmao Auralia tried to self-commend FOUR years ago? Who fucking cares.

Raiders and defenders and Parhe or anyone who owns more than 1000 nations thank Auralia for creating this: https://auralia.github.io/nslogin-web/build/


OP, keep working on this draft. Don't get discouraged. I'm bored sitting for weeks without anything to vote on in the Security Council or GA and I can't raid because I'm WA locked.

:rofl:
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Postby United Massachusetts » Tue Dec 19, 2017 10:59 am

The New California Republic wrote:
Sciongrad wrote:Yeah, Auralia tried to self-commend like four years ago. I guarantee most have us have done worse things in the past month. So drop the self-righteousness, it comes across as a little pathetic, honestly.

OOC: I wouldn't say it is pathetic to remember relatively recent past misdeeds, but OK.

Four years ago ain't relatively recent. And we're not saying it's pathetic to remember something. We're saying it's silly to make one incident more important than years of contribution.
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Postby The New California Republic » Tue Dec 19, 2017 11:04 am

United Massachusetts wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:OOC: I wouldn't say it is pathetic to remember relatively recent past misdeeds, but OK.

Four years ago ain't relatively recent. And we're not saying it's pathetic to remember something. We're saying it's silly to make one incident more important than years of contribution.

OOC: It is as far as I am concerned. We aren't talking about a little "oopsie!" mistake, they tried to commend themselves by proxy. It is one of those mistakes that should bar a nation, in perpetuity, from being commended. Of course it would be nice if they had never made that catastrophic lapse of judgment, but they did. And of course their contributions up until now have been fantastic, but some mistakes are too significant to ignore.
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Postby United Massachusetts » Tue Dec 19, 2017 11:08 am

The New California Republic wrote:
United Massachusetts wrote:Four years ago ain't relatively recent. And we're not saying it's pathetic to remember something. We're saying it's silly to make one incident more important than years of contribution.

OOC: It is as far as I am concerned. We aren't talking about a little "oopsie!" mistake, they tried to commend themselves by proxy. It is one of those mistakes that should bar a nation, in perpetuity, from being commended. Of course it would be nice if they had never made that catastrophic lapse of judgment, but they did. Of course their contributions up until now have been fantastic, but some mistakes are too significant to ignore.

Sure, it was a big mistake, but at the same time, really? One action stops the single most prolific author in WA history (actually, tied with IA as of now) from being commended? One action stops the person who developed countless tools for automation from being commended? What lunacy.
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Postby Unibot III » Tue Dec 19, 2017 11:12 am

I certainly think Auralia is a commendable player. He's a hard worker and he's contributed a lot to the WA and around NS. The self-commendation thing four years ago was stupid, but we've all done stupid things - people should move on. Full support for "Commend Auralia" in principle, I'll have to comb through the text later.
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Postby Sciongrad » Tue Dec 19, 2017 11:18 am

The New California Republic wrote:
United Massachusetts wrote:Four years ago ain't relatively recent. And we're not saying it's pathetic to remember something. We're saying it's silly to make one incident more important than years of contribution.

OOC: It is as far as I am concerned. We aren't talking about a little "oopsie!" mistake, they tried to commend themselves by proxy. It is one of those mistakes that should bar a nation, in perpetuity, from being commended. Of course it would be nice if they had never made that catastrophic lapse of judgment, but they did. And of course their contributions up until now have been fantastic, but some mistakes are too significant to ignore.

Why is this mistake "catastrophic" and "too significant to ignore"? Because you are conflating a move with poor optics in a game with personal moral failing. Either that or you've arbitrarily decided that what Auralia did was "wrong," but I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you don't make determinations like this based on caprice. Auralia has made so many valuable contributions to this game, and players like you are so stubborn that you're not willing to recognize them because he did something that was, at worst, a distraction.

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The New California Republic wrote:OOC: It is as far as I am concerned. We aren't talking about a little "oopsie!" mistake, they tried to commend themselves by proxy. It is one of those mistakes that should bar a nation, in perpetuity, from being commended. Of course it would be nice if they had never made that catastrophic lapse of judgment, but they did. Of course their contributions up until now have been fantastic, but some mistakes are too significant to ignore.

Sure, it was a big mistake, but at the same time, really? One action stops the single most prolific author in WA history (actually, tied with IA as of now) from being commended? One action stops the person who developed countless tools for automation from being commended? What lunacy.

Don't concede that point. It was annoying, maybe, but don't give any credibility to the argument that the self-commendation was some catastrophic mistake.

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Postby United Massachusetts » Tue Dec 19, 2017 11:22 am

Well, I certainly would believe that what Auralia did was wrong, but his service to the community far exceed that
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Postby The New California Republic » Tue Dec 19, 2017 11:45 am

OOC: OK, time for some compromise. If the text included some kind of acknowledgement of the event, then that would be good, rather than hanging over it like a specter. If there was some kind of reasonable acknowledgement, then I am sure that it would sway the more reluctant to support it. I promise you that I would support it if there was such an acknowledgement. As people have said, if it wasn't a significant event or was just mere distraction, and it was a long time ago, then it shouldn't really affect the chances of it passing.

The text does mention a mistake, but it doesn't say what it is.
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Postby United Massachusetts » Tue Dec 19, 2017 12:14 pm

The New California Republic wrote:OOC: OK, time for some compromise. If the text included some kind of acknowledgement of the event, then that would be good, rather than hanging over it like a specter. If there was some kind of reasonable acknowledgement, then I am sure that it would sway the more reluctant to support it. I promise you that I would support it if there was such an acknowledgement. As people have said, if it wasn't a significant event or was just mere distraction, and it was a long time ago, then it shouldn't really affect the chances of it passing.

The text does mention a mistake, but it doesn't say what it is.

Done
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Postby Herby » Tue Dec 19, 2017 12:50 pm

Sciongrad wrote:No offense to those that have posted so far, but this blackballing of Auralia is, at best, a pretext for opposing someone with conservative values and, and worst, evinces a sad tendency among some players here to conflate in-game decision-making with personal morality. Yeah, Auralia tried to self-commend like four years ago. I guarantee most have us have done worse things in the past month. So drop the self-righteousness, it comes across as a little pathetic, honestly.

Really dude? “No offense but.” You think this is about politics and “conservative values”? C’mon man. It’s about cheating the system, nothing more. The SC has spent a long time now smacking around anyone who so much as sneezed on Predator and taken away their badges while they got perma-banned from the WA while Auralia got a slap on the wrist that he was able to circumvent anyway with his Railana puppet. I got no patience for people who cheat to win, and if that makes me a self-righteous asshole, fuck it, I’m a self-righteous asshole. Won’t argue that.

The New California Republic wrote:OOC: OK, time for some compromise. If the text included some kind of acknowledgement of the event, then that would be good, rather than hanging over it like a specter. If there was some kind of reasonable acknowledgement, then I am sure that it would sway the more reluctant to support it. I promise you that I would support it if there was such an acknowledgement. As people have said, if it wasn't a significant event or was just mere distraction, and it was a long time ago, then it shouldn't really affect the chances of it passing.

The text does mention a mistake, but it doesn't say what it is.

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Postby Ransium » Tue Dec 19, 2017 1:33 pm

The "Seeking" and "Aware" clauses are so boilerplate my monitor just steamed up. Can you do something more meaningful and personal to this resolution with them?

Lauding Auralia's development of a tool, NS AutoTelegram, used to facilitate mass communication, a tool used to campaign for this very resolution,


Something about the last clause of this line “a tool used for this very resolution” rubs me the wrong way from an R4 perspective. I'm not going to say it's illegal, but I think it doesn't add anything and I would prefer if it were removed.
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Postby Fauxia » Tue Dec 19, 2017 3:09 pm

I mean... look.

So obviously Auralia did something utterly ridiculous and base, and his response was even more ridiculous; he didn’t even pretend to be sorry. At the same time...

Is it really fair to be so unforgiving of someone who has contributed so much to the WA? It was a long time ago, and it’s not like we didn’t forgive any predator users.

But when it boils down to it, they apologized, and Auralia didn’t. If he had, I’d be more likely to support. But without an apology... I’m not sure.
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Postby United Massachusetts » Tue Dec 19, 2017 3:11 pm

He has since apologized.
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Fauxia » Tue Dec 19, 2017 3:12 pm

United Massachusetts wrote:He has since apologized.
Link?

I’d make the penultimate line start out “Believing, however” instead of “but believing”
Don’t pick a fight with me, I am proficient with the weapon to which all shall fall in NationStates... inactivity.
Reploid Productions wrote:Unfortunately, Max still won't buy the mods elite ninja assassin squads to use, so... no such luck.

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United Massachusetts
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Founded: Jan 17, 2016
Liberal Democratic Socialists

Postby United Massachusetts » Tue Dec 19, 2017 3:51 pm

Fauxia wrote:
United Massachusetts wrote:He has since apologized.
Link?

I’d make the penultimate line start out “Believing, however” instead of “but believing”

check the WA Discord. Plus, I've had telegram conversations with Auralia.
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Pro-Life Social Democratic Catholic
Ambassador: Bishop Alexander Pierce

Deputy Outreach Minister, The Rejected Realms
Assistant: Father Carl Sullivan

President, Right to Life
Author/Co-author: 7 GA, 2 SC resolutions

Queen Yuno wrote:You have a very contradictory rep yourself, [UM].
Sanctaria wrote:We get it. You're pro-life.
Davelands wrote:(UM tries to slip another one by)
Wallenburg wrote:You've got to be the most ignorant person on this Discord.
Davelands wrote:Remember that United Mass is extremely on the religious right side. Look for hidden gotcha's for later. He is playing a long game with proposals...
Stat Crux dum volvitur orbis
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Auralia
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Founded: Dec 15, 2011
New York Times Democracy

Postby Auralia » Tue Dec 19, 2017 4:37 pm

Fauxia wrote:
United Massachusetts wrote:He has since apologized.
Link?

I publicly apologized for attempting to commend myself about two and a half years ago.
Catholic Commonwealth of Auralia
Also known as Railana

"Amor sequitur cognitionem."

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