[DEFEATED] Marriage Blocker

[Araraukar]

OOC: Also, WA resolutions are only binding on WA members, so if you don't want that you can leave? It's 100% voluntary.

OOC: ^This.

[Excidium Planetis]

The only resolutions we will approve are ones that protect individual rights FROM the overreach of governments.

For example, a resolution stating: "No NationState member shall be allowed to legislate on matters of personal relationships" would immediately gain our vote.

"I'm not sure who you are, since you are not an ambassador, but I do not believe your views are in any way compatible with an international legislative body made up of member nations." Blackbourne informs. "The World Assembly was created by and for nations, not anarchist communes, and I don't think you'll find any sympathy here."

[Webhendge]

Whilst i agree the grammar in the bill is indeed rather confusing, the subject matter which the bills attempts to write about should really be the main focus rather than the afore mentioned issues. I think it would be rather interesting to be able to legislate independently on issues real world governments deal with. I think it would be interesting to see how some nations would legislate.

[Candlewhisper Archive]

Whilst i agree the grammar in the bill is indeed rather confusing, the subject matter which the bills attempts to write about should really be the main focus rather than the afore mentioned issues. I think it would be rather interesting to be able to legislate independently on issues real world governments deal with. I think it would be interesting to see how some nations would legislate.

You have a fair point, and I'd agree to a degree that the legalistic approach does somewhat discourage WA participation, and could even be argued to be elitist.

However, I'd also assert that when a proposal is going to enter the permanent legislation of the World Assembly, it is absolutely vital that it exist within that permanent record in the accepted format and style, as this allows for clear legal interpretation and strengthens the WA as a whole.

For that reason, I consider it important for WA members to demand high levels of clarity, correct spelling and grammar, and properly formed proposals. To be legalistic is absolutely an appropriate approach when dealing with a body of international law.

So while the Archive is delighted and amused by the less literate antics of many WA newcomers, we as a nation cannot support or condone any proposal that is presented anything less than 100% professionally.

[Clean Land]

It seems that the majority of the nations(although the support might have been higher with another format) aren't tired of the marriage debates, then. We already see multiple proposals again... But we will not pursue this further, and rather shift our attention to the next matter we will try to legislate on. More on this will follow shortly, somewhere else.

[Bismarck und Schoenhausen]

For example, a resolution stating: "No NationState member shall be allowed to legislate on matters of personal relationships" would immediately gain our vote.

"Which would be an illegal blocker. Nice try, though. Here, have a cookie."

"Here have a cookie? What are we, children?"

[Bismarck und Schoenhausen]

Aside from poor writing ability, our reason for opposing this resolution is the following clause:
member states shall be allowed to legislate on the topics of Marriage, personal unions and Civil Unions freely within the boundaries set by this resolution and earlier resolutions

Members should NOT be allowed to legislate personal relationships. Only free individuals have the authority to determine the nature and social recognition of a marriage, partnership, or other union.

Bismarck replies, "As you are an anarchist commune, you should be treated as such." Bismarck, realizing some may not know what he means by you should be treated as such follows up with, "Meaning, he should promptly be ejected from the World Assembly."

[Mombombu]

I think there should be a bill similar to this, recognizing and guaranteeing the right of every nation to define marriage in the way it seems fit.

That said, the language in this resolution is just....kind of...odd.
I don't think I've ever seen a resolution drafted in this format and it's somewhat confusing what it intends to do.
I think maybe the idea could work in a different resolution but, again, it would need to be reworded and structured differently so that it protects nations' right to decide what marriage is instead of blocking future legislation.

[Twilight Imperium]

It seems that the majority of the nations(although the support might have been higher with another format) aren't tired of the marriage debates, then. We already see multiple proposals again... But we will not pursue this further, and rather shift our attention to the next matter we will try to legislate on. More on this will follow shortly, somewhere else.

[Baptized Believers]

I’m am appalled and completely frustrated with all these issues dictating marriage. This is an issue of none importantance on the world stage. We should be discussing Trade, Economics, Security, Human Rights, and etc. not trying to decide who can marry who. Quit wasting the nation’s of the world’s time on this nonesense. This issue is a regional and nation issue, not an issue for bureaucrats to discuss to shove down our throats. We want real debates, right now! Not this hogwash.

[FreethinkingAnarchists ResidingWherever]

I’m am appalled and completely frustrated!! blah blah blah i'm angry blah blah

[Fauxia]

I’m am appalled and completely frustrated!! blah blah blah i'm angry blah blah

OOC: What are you even trying to say?

[Frisbeeteria]

I’m am appalled and completely frustrated!! blah blah blah i'm angry blah blah

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"The only good thing about this shoddily-written resolution... is that it's about to die! Opposed."

[Clean Land]

"Marriage Blocker" was defeated 15,176 votes to 2,107.

Didn't pass. We will move to other topics of legislation, then.

[Greater Gilead]

"Marriage Blocker" was defeated 15,176 votes to 2,107.

Didn't pass. We will move to other topics of legislation, then.

Please don't. Poor proposals get nowhere.

[Clean Land]

Didn't pass. We will move to other topics of legislation, then.

Please don't. Poor proposals get nowhere.

OOC: I will spend more time drafting that one, at least. I don't want to get a reputation in the WA similar to the one of Keshiland.

[Imperium Anglorum]

88 pc against is pretty strong.