[PASSED] Public Health and Vaccinations Act

[Separatist Peoples]

The problem is that if they don't undergo that medical procedure, they may be forcing another person to become very sick.

No, the disease they carry is forcing that person to become sick, they aren't doing anything besides being involuntary carriers of said disease. This medical treatment could prevent/cure the disease they carry, but they have a right to reject medical treatment. You cannot ethically force people to receive vaccinations without violating their civil rights to refuse medical treatment and their right to bodily sovereignty. These protections protect us as individuals against all forms of medical battery, not just vaccination.

"The simple solution here is to levy criminal charges for refusing. Problem solved. After all, regardless of their involuntary carrier status, their intentional refusal to remedy that defect perpetrates a threat to public health. If you're fine living in a quarantined cell for the rest of your life, then you get to keep your bodily sovereignty!"

[Tarsonis]

No, the disease they carry is forcing that person to become sick, they aren't doing anything besides being involuntary carriers of said disease. This medical treatment could prevent/cure the disease they carry, but they have a right to reject medical treatment. You cannot ethically force people to receive vaccinations without violating their civil rights to refuse medical treatment and their right to bodily sovereignty. These protections protect us as individuals against all forms of medical battery, not just vaccination.

"The simple solution here is to levy criminal charges for refusing. Problem solved. After all, regardless of their involuntary carrier status, their intentional refusal to remedy that defect perpetrates a threat to public health. If you're fine living in a quarantined cell for the rest of your life, then you get to keep your bodily sovereignty!"

"Ah of course, forcibly violate their rights under the threat of legal penalty if they resist. Why didn't we think of that? It's only been used to enforce every crime against humanity since the dawn of civilization."

[Slavonia and Srijem]

I don't know is it due to my english understandment, but this proposal looks too complicated for me to understand it, so i will vote against.

[Imperium Anglorum]

This is now at vote.

[Evil Dictators Happyland]

Probably a bit late for this, but what about refusal on religious grounds?

[Aexnidaral]

Another job well done, IA.

[Araraukar]

Another job well done, IA.

OOC: Yeah, he's doing a good job alienating himself from the GA community. Which is kinda sad as it didn't have to be that way.

[Tarsonis]

Another job well done, IA.

OOC: Yeah, he's doing a good job alienating himself from the GA community. Which is kinda sad as it didn't have to be that way.

OOC: Claiming to work for the defense of human rights while abridging human rights.... nope sounds like the normal GA to me.

[Separatist Peoples]

Another job well done, IA.

OOC: Yeah, he's doing a good job alienating himself from the GA community. Which is kinda sad as it didn't have to be that way.

OOC: A large number of the active GA community had access to this, so IA didn't alienate the community as a whole. Just a few individuals who, from what I gather, wouldn't have had a salutary effect on drafting.

[Tarsonis]

OOC: Yeah, he's doing a good job alienating himself from the GA community. Which is kinda sad as it didn't have to be that way.

OOC: A large number of the active GA community had access to this, so IA didn't alienate the community as a whole. Just a few individuals who, from what I gather, wouldn't have had a salutary effect on drafting.

OOC: of course, why should those pointing out an egregious civil rights violation be listened to?

[Queer AnComville]

“There’s really no reason Queer AnComville has to vote for or against this as it is very similar to existing legislation. We’re inclined to vote in favor, but are considering the ethical implications and will review the statements of other member nations carefully.”

[Wallenburg]

OOC: Yeah, he's doing a good job alienating himself from the GA community. Which is kinda sad as it didn't have to be that way.

OOC: A large number of the active GA community had access to this, so IA didn't alienate the community as a whole. Just a few individuals who, from what I gather, wouldn't have had a salutary effect on drafting.

OOC: Drafting offsite inherently alienates the GA community, especially if drafting is inaccessible to the public.

[Aexnidaral]

Another job well done, IA.

OOC: Yeah, he's doing a good job alienating himself from the GA community. Which is kinda sad as it didn't have to be that way.

[Separatist Peoples]

OOC: A large number of the active GA community had access to this, so IA didn't alienate the community as a whole. Just a few individuals who, from what I gather, wouldn't have had a salutary effect on drafting.

OOC: Drafting offsite inherently alienates the GA community, especially if drafting is inaccessible to the public.

OOC: It only alienates those GA members who aren't active offsite. That isn't the same thing.

OOC: A large number of the active GA community had access to this, so IA didn't alienate the community as a whole. Just a few individuals who, from what I gather, wouldn't have had a salutary effect on drafting.

OOC: of course, why should those pointing out an egregious civil rights violation be listened to?

OOC: IA wouldn't have listened to you even if this was drafted on the thread. There are many positions I simply ignore in my own drafting threads.

[Araraukar]

OOC: It only alienates those GA members who aren't active offsite. That isn't the same thing.

OOC: Just because some of the members of one circle exist in another circle, doesn't mean the favouring one of the circles wouldn't be detrimental to the other circle.

[Karkra]

This proposal is an infringement on human rights. It's not right to force all the countries of the WA to have their peoples vaccinated. We can cannot force the people to have vaccinations regardless of their stance on health, we cannot force someone to live their lives a certain way. This smells of authoritarianism and many of the past proposals the WA has brought to our attention anymore do too. It is a shame that now we are turning opinions into law and forcing them upon the people. It is a shame that the WA has become a breeding ground for crushing civil rights. The World Assembly meant something once, but now it has become an overly complex group of liberal superpowers that somehow manage to force goodwill onto people, a tactic that simply looks good on paper but doesn't work in process. Only when the people decide to love the government or different people or institutions will they have the strongest sense of love and respect for those things. If we wish to preach the benefits of vaccination or anything for that matter, turn their minds and you will make a lover forever. Turn their laws, and you will get pain. This law is just the beginning of the WA putting a cap on a pressurizing bottle. And it will explode. If this pattern continues, it may be time for a lot of us to gather together and do something.

[Separatist Peoples]

OOC: It only alienates those GA members who aren't active offsite. That isn't the same thing.

OOC: Just because some of the members of one circle exist in another circle, doesn't mean the favouring one of the circles wouldn't be detrimental to the other circle.

OOC: It wasn't a question of detriment, but of alienation.

[Araraukar]

OOC: It wasn't a question of detriment, but of alienation.

OOC: Detrimental, alienating, ripping the community in two, bleeding GA of participation, your choice of wording, I don't care. You know what I and Wallenburg mean though.

[Pilarcraft]

"we support this, and have voted in favor of it on the Floor of the General Assembly. hopefully, it'll pass"

[Imperium Anglorum]

ELSIE MORTIMER WELLESLEY: (throwing a paper airplane soaring over a field of loud bickering and yelling delegates) Controversial legislation is controversial. What a surprise.

[Separatist Peoples]

OOC: It wasn't a question of detriment, but of alienation.

OOC: Detrimental, alienating, ripping the community in two, bleeding GA of participation, your choice of wording, I don't care. You know what I and Wallenburg mean though.

OOC: There is really very little value to input from a party who seeks only to oppose something. The forums IA drafted on are full of smart people, so legality wasn't an issue. What remains is an assessment of policy, for which opposition points are of questionable merit.

[Clean Land]

This proposal seems to have an enormous amount of support.
(No wonder, most conservatives and liberals support mandatory vaccs)

[The Deterrian nation]

The Imperial Federation rules that public health is a priority, even we, as harsh and inhospitable an authoritarian state as we are, cannot deny the benefits of such a bill to combat and control disease. Yet it also means we can take it a step further and start placing mind-altering drugs in them to further quell any rebellion among the masses.

[Imperium Anglorum]

Yet it also means we can take it a step further and start placing mind-altering drugs in them to further quell any rebellion among the masses.

Section 5.

[The Deterrian nation]

Your petty WA laws hold no power over the greater Imperial Federation. Being classified as a separate nation from this territory ensures the tyrannical socialist nanny state holds no power over our people.