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Postby Principality of the Raix » Mon Nov 27, 2017 4:32 pm

Yaroslov wrote:Will this law affect my countries economy? I voted against this law because of that reason

OOC: It may affect Industry, however I would imagine it could improve tourism and the eco-system. If actual stats were involved, I would consider that. However, I do not think it should too much. Unless you heavily mine?
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[AT VOTE] Restrictions on Hydraulic Fracturing

Postby Lizz Synna » Mon Nov 27, 2017 5:25 pm

The Lizz Synnan ambassador takes a moment to stand standing behind his chair gripping it looking around waiting for quiet before he begins to speak

I think an outright ban on fracking for all countries in effect is a futile and invasive ban. I believe a country should have a right to do with its resources what it wants, I put my support behind the regulation of fracking though.

We should aim to ban fracking within a certain distance (calculated by an unbiased research committee) of another nation's borders that do not approve or allow for fracking. Thus limiting the need for a ban and the need to infringe on a nation's rights to its own territory. And we should push for countries to cease the negligence that contaminates water sources that multiple countries use by; developing better environmentally friendly chemicals, being aware of nearby international water sources, and most of all being banned from fracking near these said international water sources.

He hits his table at the last sentence with each syllable showing his dismay this clear solution hasn't taken effect before.

I have a closing statement to keep in mind. It is that we should see to creating a greenhouse gas agreement to limit and cap the amount of greenhouse gas a nation can release into the atmosphere as that effects us all. The death of the earth affects us all.



He stares before waving his hand indicating his is done speaking and sits down turning to talk to his fellow Lizz Synnan ambassadors
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Postby United Massachusetts » Mon Nov 27, 2017 5:28 pm

Lizz Synna wrote:The Lizz Synnan ambassador takes a moment to stand standing behind his chair gripping it looking around waiting for quiet before he begins to speak

I think an outright ban on fracking for all countries in effect is a futile and invasive ban. I believe a country should have a right to do with its resources what it wants, I believe a broad regulating body would do the work to eliminate fracking damage to foreign nations while avoiding an invasive ban.

We should instead aim to ban fracking within a certain distance (calculated by an unbiased research committee) of another nation's borders that do not approve or allow for fracking. Thus limiting the need for a ban and the need to infringe on a nation's rights to its own territory. And we should push for countries to cease the negligence that contaminates water sources that multiple countries use by; developing better environmentally friendly chemicals, being aware of nearby international water sources, and most of all being banned from fracking near these said international water sources.

He hits his table at the last sentence with each syllable showing his dismay this clear solution hasn't taken effect before.

I have a closing statement to keep in mind. It is that we should see to creating a greenhouse gas agreement to limit and cap the amount of greenhouse gas a nation can release into the atmosphere as that effects us all. The death of the earth affects us all.



He stares before waving his hand indicating his is done speaking and sits down turning to talk to his fellow Lizz Synnan ambassadors

It isn't an outright ban.

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Postby Lizz Synna » Mon Nov 27, 2017 5:29 pm

United Massachusetts wrote:
Lizz Synna wrote:The Lizz Synnan ambassador takes a moment to stand standing behind his chair gripping it looking around waiting for quiet before he begins to speak

I think an outright ban on fracking for all countries in effect is a futile and invasive ban. I believe a country should have a right to do with its resources what it wants, I believe a broad regulating body would do the work to eliminate fracking damage to foreign nations while avoiding an invasive ban.

We should instead aim to ban fracking within a certain distance (calculated by an unbiased research committee) of another nation's borders that do not approve or allow for fracking. Thus limiting the need for a ban and the need to infringe on a nation's rights to its own territory. And we should push for countries to cease the negligence that contaminates water sources that multiple countries use by; developing better environmentally friendly chemicals, being aware of nearby international water sources, and most of all being banned from fracking near these said international water sources.

He hits his table at the last sentence with each syllable showing his dismay this clear solution hasn't taken effect before.

I have a closing statement to keep in mind. It is that we should see to creating a greenhouse gas agreement to limit and cap the amount of greenhouse gas a nation can release into the atmosphere as that effects us all. The death of the earth affects us all.




He stares before waving his hand indicating his is done speaking and sits down turning to talk to his fellow Lizz Synnan ambassadors

It isn't an outright ban.


OOC: Replying to others pushing for a ban saying regulations won't work. Didn't make that clear it seems one sec.
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Postby United Massachusetts » Mon Nov 27, 2017 5:45 pm

Lizz Synna wrote:
United Massachusetts wrote:It isn't an outright ban.


OOC: Replying to others pushing for a ban saying regulations won't work. Didn't make that clear it seems one sec.

OOC: Sorry. Thanks.

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Postby Lizz Synna » Mon Nov 27, 2017 5:52 pm

United Massachusetts wrote:
Lizz Synna wrote:
OOC: Replying to others pushing for a ban saying regulations won't work. Didn't make that clear it seems one sec.

OOC: Sorry. Thanks.

OOC: No need to say sorry, thank you for pointing out the flaw.

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Postby FreethinkingAnarchists ResidingWherever » Tue Nov 28, 2017 8:02 am

A few phone calls were made, some handshakes were shaken, and now our fracking operations are safely in the hands of organized crime :) They were quite happy to invest in it, actually, and once I pointed out to industry leaders how utterly inconvenient you guys were going to make it for us, they were happy to sell out.

It took a little time away from other pursuits but I'd definitely encourage others to follow suit!
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Postby Willania Imperium » Tue Nov 28, 2017 9:27 am

FreethinkingAnarchists ResidingWherever wrote:A few phone calls were made, some handshakes were shaken, and now our fracking operations are safely in the hands of organized crime :) They were quite happy to invest in it, actually, and once I pointed out to industry leaders how utterly inconvenient you guys were going to make it for us, they were happy to sell out.

It took a little time away from other pursuits but I'd definitely encourage others to follow suit!


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Postby Bears Armed » Tue Nov 28, 2017 11:32 am

Principality of the Raix wrote:
Yaroslov wrote:Will this law affect my countries economy? I voted against this law because of that reason

OOC: It may affect Industry, however I would imagine it could improve tourism and the eco-system. If actual stats were involved, I would consider that. However, I do not think it should too much. Unless you heavily mine?

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Postby United States of Americanas » Tue Nov 28, 2017 7:54 pm

This country is hardly industrialized anyway. We don’t use many oil products here. We are perfectly happy importing oil for our needs from elsewhere. Not one delegate from our nation voted in support of allowing Hydraulic Fracturing. We believe there are better ways of accessing energy reserves.
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Postby Saxony-Brandenburg » Tue Nov 28, 2017 8:03 pm

"Although in stark opposition with our regional representative, the nation of Saxony-Brandenburg will vote yes to the resolution, but makes it clear that fracking, in areas that do not pose significant threat to the environment or sapient beings, will be continued. If such a measure in the future would be proposed as to ban fracking outright, we will have great protest for the assembly's frank overstep of authority. An opinion I do believe echoed in many nations here, and which may result in some pulling out of this assembly's jurisdiction."
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Postby Camalotia » Tue Nov 28, 2017 8:35 pm

"Fellow nations. Do 'think of the trees' in this sort of matter. Studies have been conducted, even proven, that some occurrences of seismic events have been directly caused to fracking. And shall I even mention the fact that around forty thousand gallons of different chemicals are used for each fracturing site! Eight million gallons of water, which doesn't aid worldwide droughts. There have been countless remarks, and studies made globally show that Fracturing is simply bad all in it's own, and there should've been an alternate method of retrieving deep-held gas in the first place."

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Postby Imperial Polk County » Wed Nov 29, 2017 5:33 am

FreethinkingAnarchists ResidingWherever wrote:A few phone calls were made, some handshakes were shaken, and now our fracking operations are safely in the hands of organized crime :) They were quite happy to invest in it, actually, and once I pointed out to industry leaders how utterly inconvenient you guys were going to make it for us, they were happy to sell out.

It took a little time away from other pursuits but I'd definitely encourage others to follow suit!

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Postby Archers Bow » Wed Nov 29, 2017 9:00 am

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"Our Republic, and the general scientific consensus, is in agreement with the statements made by this proposal. Hydraulic fracturing is a dangerous process, that if unchecked and unregulated, can lay waste to areas of natural beauty and cause intense damage to the health of many communities.

The Republic of Archer's Bow led the way by creating an outright ban on the practice. Although this is not an outright ban, our delegation believes that it is close enough, as there are few places and contexts in which fracking would not pose a threat of contamination or adverse health effects to areas or communities."

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And it just got passed.
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Postby Wrapper » Wed Nov 29, 2017 10:16 am

Restrictions on Hydraulic Fracturing was passed 12,080 votes to 5,327.

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Postby Ransium » Wed Nov 29, 2017 10:16 am

Restrictions on Hydraulic Fracturing was passed 12,080 votes to 5,327.

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Postby Wrapper » Wed Nov 29, 2017 10:18 am

Ransium wrote:Restrictions on Hydraulic Fracturing was passed 12,080 votes to 5,327.

Is there an echo in here? :p

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Postby Darksonium » Wed Nov 29, 2017 3:43 pm

News just in: Darksonium judiciary rule Fracking safe as long as it isn't within a Parsec of any urban area containing a billion or more sentient beings.

Our energy companies are now legally attempting to extract as much gas as we can from under our neighbours borders.


Would (attempt) to write a "Repeal" but lack the necessary endorsements or the flowery, waffling language necessary.

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Postby Tinfect » Wed Nov 29, 2017 4:07 pm

Darksonium wrote:News just in: Darksonium judiciary rule Fracking safe as long as it isn't within a Parsec of any urban area containing a billion or more sentient beings.

Our energy companies are now legally attempting to extract as much gas as we can from under our neighbours borders.


Would (attempt) to write a "Repeal" but lack the necessary endorsements or the flowery, waffling language necessary.


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Postby Principality of the Raix » Thu Nov 30, 2017 1:26 am

Darksonium wrote:Would (attempt) to write a "Repeal" but lack the necessary endorsements or the flowery, waffling language necessary.



There is a draft for repeal, however it is not getting much support with the Author of this proposal showing or explaining. Why a repeal is not required, seeing as this is not an outright ban and their major target was the distance and the fact that they read it as though it was a ban. Just saying.
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Postby Darksonium » Thu Nov 30, 2017 2:27 am

Tinfect wrote:
Darksonium wrote:News just in: Darksonium judiciary rule Fracking safe as long as it isn't within a Parsec of any urban area containing a billion or more sentient beings.

Our energy companies are now legally attempting to extract as much gas as we can from under our neighbours borders.


Would (attempt) to write a "Repeal" but lack the necessary endorsements or the flowery, waffling language necessary.


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You realize that a Parsec is a fucking gigantic measurement, right?


Yes thanks, and used deliberately to point out the inadequacy of the resolution's wording.

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Postby Imperial Polk County » Thu Nov 30, 2017 6:38 am

Darksonium wrote:News just in: Darksonium judiciary rule Fracking safe as long as it isn't within a Parsec of any urban area containing a billion or more sentient beings.

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Postby Wallenburg » Thu Nov 30, 2017 6:42 am

Darksonium wrote:
Tinfect wrote:
OOC:
You realize that a Parsec is a fucking gigantic measurement, right?

Yes thanks, and used deliberately to point out the inadequacy of the resolution's wording.

OOC: I'm not sure you understand how distance works. A larger minimum distance imposes heavier restrictions. And, assuming you are not a sprawling interstellar empire, it would ban fracking entirely for you.
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