[PASSED] Restrictions on Hydraulic Fracturing

[Principality of the Raix]

Regardless, the way this bill is worded, it doesn't distinguish between proper and improper methods. It literally straight up says:

"Prohibits the practice of hydraulic fracturing in all areas of World Assembly member-states which are in or within close range of land inhabited by populations of sapient beings..."

First off, that distance is arbitrary and undefined. There is no way in the world that that can be enforced.
Second, prohibiting and restricting are 2 VERY different things. Anyone who tries to argue otherwise is highly advised to consult a dictionary

Okay, let's consult the dictionary on prohibition. But in this case it is meant to ban, prevent or forbid certain actions. Which are in close vicinity to urban area's such as city's. That is what is occurring here and the only thing I can see solidifying your complaint is something I agree on and it is the distance is not stated. Plus there is 3 definitions to Prohibit, besides the adjectives.

Edited in: Which by preventing something close to an urban area, we are successfully restricting it. However, as I stated above. The distance is an issue to me too, however the bill as a whole is good until a new one is worked out that can address that.... one thing.

[Lost Brotherhood]

Regardless, the way this bill is worded, it doesn't distinguish between proper and improper methods. It literally straight up says:

First off, that distance is arbitrary and undefined. There is no way in the world that that can be enforced.
Second, prohibiting and restricting are 2 VERY different things. Anyone who tries to argue otherwise is highly advised to consult a dictionary

Okay, let's consult the dictionary on prohibition. But in this case it is meant to ban, prevent or forbid certain actions. Which are in close vicinity to urban area's such as city's. That is what is occurring here and the only thing I can see solidifying your complaint is something I agree on and it is the distance is not stated. Plus there is 3 definitions to Prohibit, besides the adjectives.

Edited in: Which by preventing something close to an urban area, we are successfully restricting it. However, as I stated above. The distance is an issue to me too, however the bill as a whole is good until a new one is worked out that can address that.... one thing.

Personally, I don't believe in patch jobs. Either get it right, or don't do it at all; especially when there are WA guidelines which state that bills cannot be amended. I would support a proper rendition of this bill, which makes the appropriate distinctions and exceptions. However, in its current form, this bill is not fit to be enacted into law

[Principality of the Raix]

Personally, I don't believe in patch jobs. Either get it right, or don't do it at all; especially when there are WA guidelines which state that bills cannot be amended. I would support a proper rendition of this bill, which makes the appropriate distinctions and exceptions. However, in its current form, this bill is not fit to be enacted into law

I don't believe in patch jobs either, but then again this is not My proposal. Reason I stated the above, if he wants to revoke his own work; It is more likely to be repealed. While I could support this or a rewritten draft, course the only thing that irks me on this one is the distance. Seeing as that is a replaceable concept. However, right now I see no reason to repeal it. Specially seeing as it is or would be benefiting most individuals, while distance in fracking is hard to argue. Why? As stated previously, when you have fracking. It can pollute rivers miles away from the site due to run-off near populated regions. Or it can happen very close, however as stated by one that you quoted. That is only if done cheaply, which in the end this bill restricts it entirely from being done cheaply. So distance.... yeah...

[Lost Brotherhood]

That is only if done cheaply, which in the end this bill restricts it entirely from being done cheaply.

Delete that last "cheaply" and you have what this bill actually does, though. There is no provision for proper execution of the fracking technique

[United Massachusetts]

I'm on mobile now, so I'm sorry for being rather unresponsive. In short, I find the repeal arguments laid out by Imperium Anglorum monumentally facetious

[Bears Armed]

First off, that distance is arbitrary and undefined. There is no way in the world that that can be enforced.

If & when this passes, it becomes law in all member nations. It is then up to those nations' own legal systems, acting "in good faith", to define that distance. That's standard practice for any undefined terms in resolutions.

[Darksonium]

If & when this passes, it becomes law in all member nations. It is then up to those nations' own legal systems, acting "in good faith", to define that distance. That's standard practice for any undefined terms in resolutions.

Our legal system puts the distance at 1 parsec. Seems about right.

[Scherzinger]

If & when this passes, it becomes law in all member nations. It is then up to those nations' own legal systems, acting "in good faith", to define that distance. That's standard practice for any undefined terms in resolutions.

Our legal system puts the distance at 1 parsec. Seems about right.

we continue to ignore these resolutions and this one as well. Against we stand by those who are against it as well

[Willania Imperium]

Our legal system puts the distance at 1 parsec. Seems about right.

we continue to ignore these resolutions and this one as well. Against we stand by those who are against it as well

OOC: Alright, now this is getting annoying. If you keep up with this attitude, you are showing that you are unwilling to listen and follow the rules. Not only that, but you are trying to godmod. Stop this attitude and comply.

IC: "Well, it seems to me a sensible, logical piece of work that I find worthy of support. For."

[Reggina]

How would we even enforce such a measure?

[States of Glory WA Office]

If & when this passes, it becomes law in all member nations. It is then up to those nations' own legal systems, acting "in good faith", to define that distance. That's standard practice for any undefined terms in resolutions.

Our legal system puts the distance at 1 parsec. Seems about right.

Neville: Ah, an interplanetary empire. Tell me: Are your citizens robotic or organic?

[Scherzinger]

we continue to ignore these resolutions and this one as well. Against we stand by those who are against it as well

OOC: Alright, now this is getting annoying. If you keep up with this attitude, you are showing that you are unwilling to listen and follow the rules. Not only that, but you are trying to godmod. Stop this attitude and comply.

IC: "Well, it seems to me a sensible, logical piece of work that I find worthy of support. For."

IC: look at me, do i look afraid?

[Willania Imperium]

OOC: Alright, now this is getting annoying. If you keep up with this attitude, you are showing that you are unwilling to listen and follow the rules. Not only that, but you are trying to godmod. Stop this attitude and comply.

IC: "Well, it seems to me a sensible, logical piece of work that I find worthy of support. For."

IC: look at me, do i look afraid?

OOC: You don't know what OOC and IC means, don't you?

[Scherzinger]

IC: look at me, do i look afraid?

OOC: You don't know what OOC and IC means, don't you?

OOC: as a matter of fact i do, it means Out Of Character and In Character, referring to role-playing. Do all you filthy Democracies think we Communists are that stupid?

[Lost Brotherhood]

OOC: You don't know what OOC and IC means, don't you?

OOC: as a matter of fact i do, it means Out Of Character and In Character, referring to role-playing. Do all you filthy Democracies think we Communists are that stupid?

OOC: It would help if you didn't give the impression of not knowing that Communism and Consumerism aren't the same thing XP

[Willania Imperium]

OOC: You don't know what OOC and IC means, don't you?

OOC: as a matter of fact i do, it means Out Of Character and In Character, referring to role-playing. Do all you filthy Democracies think we Communists are that stupid?

OOC: Then why did you reply to an IC post approving the proposal with a reply that seems for OOC?

[Scherzinger]

OOC: as a matter of fact i do, it means Out Of Character and In Character, referring to role-playing. Do all you filthy Democracies think we Communists are that stupid?

OOC: Then why did you reply to an IC post approving the proposal with a reply that seems for OOC?

i was replying to the OOC one

[Willania Imperium]

OOC: Then why did you reply to an IC post approving the proposal with a reply that seems for OOC?

i was replying to the OOC one

You signified that it was a IC one.

OOC: Alright, now this is getting annoying. If you keep up with this attitude, you are showing that you are unwilling to listen and follow the rules. Not only that, but you are trying to godmod. Stop this attitude and comply.

IC: "Well, it seems to me a sensible, logical piece of work that I find worthy of support. For."

IC: look at me, do i look afraid?

[Scherzinger]

i was replying to the OOC one

You signified that it was a IC one.

IC: look at me, do i look afraid?

either way, eriously. do i look afraid of anything you could possibly do?

[Willania Imperium]

You signified that it was a IC one.

either way, eriously. do i look afraid of anything you could possibly do?

OOC: I find this conversation no longer relevant. Time to end this before we cause a threadjack. This conversation serves no purpose.

[Principality of the Raix]

Okay... So any ways, I think everything that could be said; Has been said. I guess all I got to say, is enjoy voting.

[Separatist Peoples]

OOC: You don't know what OOC and IC means, don't you?

OOC: as a matter of fact i do, it means Out Of Character and In Character, referring to role-playing. Do all you filthy Democracies think we Communists are that stupid?

Ooc: not Communists, per se, but let's face it, sticking to good IC/PIC etiquette is important in a role-playing forum.

[Dragonslinding WA Mission]

Ser Aegon Snow: "The Dragonslinding delegation votes against this proposal."

[United Massachusetts]

I've responded to several major arguments against in the repeal thread:

viewtopic.php?f=9&t=429339&p=32980845#p32980845

[Yaroslov]

Will this law affect my countries economy? I voted against this law because of that reason