[PASSED] Marriage Equality (The Provisional State of Nevada)

[Lederland]

The Lederlandian ambassador stands up again.
"Lederland casts its vote in favor. That is final."
He raises a sign readin g 'You are all losers' and seats himself

OOC: The actions of my nation in no way indicate my opinion of the other people here. Lederland is rude and belligerent and I play it as such while trying to avoid actually antagonizing the real people.

[Yohannes]

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It is my pleasure to stand in support of the principle behind the drafting of this Bill, but sadly not this Bill (and subsequently Resolution At Vote) as it currently stands. Parliament has therefore voted AGAINST the General Assembly Resolution At Vote: Marriage Equality. However, I congratulate the Ambassador of Nevada and the government of the Nevada nation state, on caring so much about the cause of lesbian, gay, and bisexual rights. With some assistance from other Hon Members of this Assembly, I am sure that any future Bill deriving from this current Bill will make a positive difference.

Her Excellency Elisa Wake, Emperor’s Counsel
World Assembly Ambassador of Yohannes

[Attempted Socialism]

"While initially registering our vote for while recognising the little impact in World Assembly nations this would have, we have since changed our vote to be against after recommendation from our Office of Reading Damn Esoteric Resolutions (ORDER), established under General Assembly Resolution 122. This was with particular concern to: Lack of proper spelling; lack of proper grammar; realisation that the resolution at hand entirely duplicates extant resolutions in effects; doubts about the sound legal consequences of relying on an undefined name of a concept; a general unwillingness to open up for further religious discrimination or religious meddling in the affairs of citizens or state.
It was of further concern to us that the cast of characters authoring or supporting this resolution contain some of the worst Ambassadors known to the World Assembly, who have shown little or no regard for the institution or the meaning of laws or words, and that no draft of this resolution can be found.

We would note, for the record, that if passed, the only change will be that all members of religious organisations will be fired from a host of civil service jobs, since they can't be required to perform their legal duties. Marriage equality has been instituted in the Solidarity Movement for over a century, and has been out of the hand of any religious institution for over two. If we become unable to ask of our civil servants that they perform their duty due to some organised schizophrenia, then they will be fired that very instance."

[Araraukar]

Why did GenSec allow this to come to vote?

OOC: Because nobody else but me is willing to make legal challenges anymore, it seems, and because people mostly argue this it's already covered by CoCR, which I don't think it is, and because horrible spelling and grammar, as long as the text is basically understandable, are not against the rules.

[Green Borneo]

Marriage is a sacred activity, a value and norm in society, and Green Borneo does not want to undermine the fundamental essence of marriage simply because it legalizes same-sex married couples!

We do not discriminate against them. We still consider them as our citizens. They are still entitled to state services. But if to get married? sorry, we vote AGAINST for this resolution

[A m e n r i a]

I agree with him/her to some extent. You must be either wicked or insane to have other nations enforce a law that is obviously wrong. Homosexuality is condemned by God himself and to support it would be a terrible deed.

[Imperial Polk County]

Drane gets to the third "REGOGNIZING" and stops. "What the hell? Don't you snowbirds know how to spell-check a document before submitting it? I don't care what the rest of it says or how wonderful it might be for the world community, I'm voting against this."

[Willania Imperium]

Drane gets to the third "REGOGNIZING" and stops. "What the hell? Don't you snowbirds know how to spell-check a document before submitting it? I don't care what the rest of it says or how wonderful it might be for the world community, I'm voting against this."

"Trust me. It's not as wonderful as the voters who are "For" it may think."

[The Bible Baptist Republic]

The Bible Baptist Republic votes against this resolution not because of the intent, but because this proposal was unvetted, undebated, and the grammar is incomprehensible.

[Separatist Peoples]

Why did GenSec allow this to come to vote?

Ooc: We don't see this as illegal. Thats why we marked "legal" on the control box.

[Wrapper]

Why did GenSec allow this to come to vote?

OOC: Why do you think this is illegal?

[Candlewhisper Archive]

OOC:

From the rules:

Format: Other universal standards for all General Assembly proposals.
Operative Clause: Every proposal has to have some recognizable effect on member nations, such as requiring them to take action or encouraging them to support a policy change.
Language: Proposals must use understandable English. Conventional legalese and Latin terms are acceptable within reason. Proposals written in incomprehensible English or a foreign language will be deleted.

"Understandable English".

Regognize is not English, thereforeit is illegal.

I guess you could argue that the word is regognizable as the word it is supposed to be, but that'd open the doorway to proposals written in the style of Roald Dahl's BFG.

"REGOGNIZING that the poor human beans are bespeakin' muchly regognizzabubble langle-witches, so is there nose need to be uppity-tumptious abouts it."

Hmm, if nothing else good comes of this, I've got to make sure that at some time in the near future we have an Issues option where the speaker talks like this.

And yes, I will be spelling it regognize from now on, just to annoy Ransium in our editing conversations, if nothing else.

[Felniir]

The Felniiri Ambassador rises from his chair, raising his fist over his heart.
"The people of The Free Land of Felniir vote in favor of this legislation. People will be glad to know that no matter what their beliefs are, and no matter what religion says it's a sin, that they are safe at night, protected by the finest police force the Felniiri have to offer. Our stance is final.'' he says, sitting back down in his black, sleek chair.

The Felniiri Have Spoken.

[Bananaistan]

OOC: I'm all for the understandable English rule when it actually applies to incomprehensible English. In this case I think it's obvious to any innocent bystander what the misspelt word means.

IC: "Due to the mangled language, the People's Republic of Bananaistan has voted against."

[Felniir]

"Oh, and diehard orthodox religions? If we don't sin, Jesus died for nothing."

[Lederland]

The Lederland Ambassador hears a buzzing, checks his phone and rises.
"Lederland's stance on spelling has not changed. As such we vote against this attack on the English language. Lederland would also like to remind you that you will never live up to what your mother wanted and you've wasted your lives."
OOC: Orwellian changes are common in Lederland.

[Sciongrad]

Why did GenSec allow this to come to vote?

OOC: Because it is legal.

[Wrapper]

"Understandable English".

Regognize is not English, thereforeit is illegal.

We've never ruled misspellings as "not English and therefore illegal". I'd be shocked if GenSec were to suddenly do so. I mean, "thereforeit" is not English and yet I understood what you were saying.

[Cyll]

As it currently stands, the Kingdom of Cyll supports this resolution. The misspelling of the word "recognize" does not impact the understandability of this resolution. Cyll full heartedly supports the principle behind this resolution. The Kingdom of Cyll supports marriage equality for everyone. Cyll is a majority atheist nation, and its government is extremely secular. Religious beliefs will never impact the civil rights of the Cyllian people.

OOC: For clarification, I am American. I use the American spelling of things. I literally just joined the WA yesterday and this is only the second thing I've voted on. I'm still very new to NationStates. I am still learning how this works. Furthermore, the atheist comment was not intended to offend anyone. It is a simple statement of fact. Religion plays no part in the government of Cyll.

[Ransium]

"Understandable English".

Regognize is not English, thereforeit is illegal.

We've never ruled misspellings as "not English and therefore illegal". I'd be shocked if GenSec were to suddenly do so. I mean, "thereforeit" is not English and yet I understood what you were saying.

OCC:
It was part of the joke. CWA doesn't make grammatical errors that elementary, unless its a certain contraction.

[Nerodanus]

WA Delegate Grigory Brusilov looks over the proposal once, then twice, then once more thrice.

"Nations have a right to choose this for themselves, otherwise the homosexual populace may face discriminaiton. Against!"

[Oresland]

Michael Richards stands up, and quickly casts his vote against. He then is called to having dinner with some friends. Before he leaves, he says "I can't believe this place has been putting forward proposals that don't deserve time or our breath. Shame on the delegates, shame".

[Deropia]

"Against because of the fact that there was no peer-reviewed drafting, which has lead to there being some rather...obvious spelling errors that would be embarrassing to allow into the pages of international law."

"Lederland's stance on spelling has not changed. As such we vote against this attack on the English language. Lederland would also like to remind you that you will never live up to what your mother wanted and you've wasted your lives."

"You are going to be a pleasure to work with, I'm sure."

[Candlewhisper Archive]

We've never ruled misspellings as "not English and therefore illegal". I'd be shocked if GenSec were to suddenly do so. I mean, "thereforeit" is not English and yet I understood what you were saying.

OCC:
It was part of the joke. CWA doesn't make grammatical errors that elementary, unless its a certain contraction.

So sweet that you believe that.

But no, it was just me missing the space bar.

[Wallenburg]

Why did GenSec allow this to come to vote?

OOC: Why do you think this is illegal?

It duplicates CoCR.