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Postby Bears Armed » Wed Mar 31, 2010 6:15 am

Joshuahood wrote:Also, I just looked at the Ninja Pirate awesome town. 217 nations, 21st in the world. Most, if not all, are puppets.

I don't know, maybe they shouldn't be condemned ;)

(Sarcasm)

Meh. That's a bit excessive, maybe, but I expect that they'll get bored with keeping all of those 'nations' alive sooner-or-later... and probably "sooner"...
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Postby The Grand Millian » Wed Mar 31, 2010 8:43 am

Potato World wrote:Okay, so I'd like to make a proposal to make a Security Council bill to condemn the region of Ninja Pirate awesome town. They have both stolen people from my region through lies, and have boosted themselves to 135th in the world through creating multiple fake accounts. How would I get started with this draft? Also, I'm open to suggestions from you all as well. My fellow region member, The Grand Millian, will most likely want to help with this proposal, as we both want this to go to the WA.

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The World Assembly,

BELIEVING that Ninja Pirate awesome town has unfairly been increasing their statistics by creating multiple fake accounts in order to make the region the 66th most popular in the world, making certain people join by using fake propaganda, attempting to reduce the integrity of other regions by saying certain things about those targeted that may or may not be true, and threatening the culture heritage of other nations,

NOTING that this region has been releasing false propaganda, has been rude to other regions and nations, and creating 77 fake nations for their region (and counting),

HEREBY CONDEMNS Ninja Pirate awesome town, for their bad deeds in the past, present, and future.




Add this to the draft

NOTHING that Ninja Pirate awesome town has sent agent nations into other regions and has spammed the regions Civil Headquarters.
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Postby The Grand Millian » Wed Mar 31, 2010 8:44 am

Bears Armed wrote:
Joshuahood wrote:Also, I just looked at the Ninja Pirate awesome town. 217 nations, 21st in the world. Most, if not all, are puppets.

I don't know, maybe they shouldn't be condemned ;)

(Sarcasm)

Meh. That's a bit excessive, maybe, but I expect that they'll get bored with keeping all of those 'nations' alive sooner-or-later... and probably "sooner"...


yes but they will just keep creating them so that he dosent run out
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Postby Bears Armed » Wed Mar 31, 2010 9:50 am

The Grand Millian wrote:NOTHING that Ninja Pirate awesome town has sent agent nations into other regions and has spammed the regions Civil Headquarters.

"NOTHING" = 'NOTING'?

Spamming other regions' CIvil Headquarters is something about which those regions can legitimately complain to the Mods (by GHR, though, not through these forums) and, as that is the case, can not 'legally' be mentioned as a justification in proposals.
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Postby Potato World » Wed Mar 31, 2010 10:12 am

Bears Armed wrote:
The Grand Millian wrote:NOTHING that Ninja Pirate awesome town has sent agent nations into other regions and has spammed the regions Civil Headquarters.

"NOTHING" = 'NOTING'?

Spamming other regions' CIvil Headquarters is something about which those regions can legitimately complain to the Mods (by GHR, though, not through these forums) and, as that is the case, can not 'legally' be mentioned as a justification in proposals.


Okay, then, 2 things:

1) To The Grand Millian, did you report the nation that spammed us yet? They really should be reported if not already
2) If it's just going to be reported and shouldn't be a proposal, should I bother changing it at all right now? I won't have any time to work on it until tomorrow, as I have a lot of work to do today.
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Postby The Grand Millian » Wed Mar 31, 2010 11:27 am

Potato World wrote:
Bears Armed wrote:
The Grand Millian wrote:NOTHING that Ninja Pirate awesome town has sent agent nations into other regions and has spammed the regions Civil Headquarters.

"NOTHING" = 'NOTING'?

Spamming other regions' CIvil Headquarters is something about which those regions can legitimately complain to the Mods (by GHR, though, not through these forums) and, as that is the case, can not 'legally' be mentioned as a justification in proposals.


Okay, then, 2 things:

1) To The Grand Millian, did you report the nation that spammed us yet? They really should be reported if not already
2) If it's just going to be reported and shouldn't be a proposal, should I bother changing it at all right now? I won't have any time to work on it until tomorrow, as I have a lot of work to do today.


1. I did just report them for the spam
2. It was reginaly sanction there for shod be in the proposal
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Postby Bordertopia » Wed Mar 31, 2010 1:15 pm

This place also sent a spammer to clog our board

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Postby Potato World » Wed Mar 31, 2010 2:41 pm

Bordertopia wrote:This place also sent a spammer to clog our board


We got that, thanks. I'll add something for that to the proposal.
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Postby Potato World » Wed Mar 31, 2010 2:46 pm

Alright, just edited draft to include the latest developments. If you would like to edit it, just copy-paste the draft into a new reply, or even just make suggestions, and I'll try my best to incorporate your wishes into the draft. No, you don't have to be in Imperium Sine Fine to help out; this bill is for all of us to enjoy NationStates more in general, in order to make regions like this known in the world.
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Postby Joshuahood » Wed Mar 31, 2010 7:07 pm

Potato World wrote:The World Assembly,

BELIEVING


Again, do you believe that they do this stuff, or do you note it? Assert? Recognize? Dismayed that they do this?

that Ninja Pirate awesome town has unfairly been increasing their statistics by creating multiple fake accounts in order to make the region the 21st most popular in the world, making certain people join by using fake propaganda, attempting to reduce the integrity of other regions by saying certain things about those targeted that may or may not be true, and threatening the culture heritage of other nations,


All of this could be reworded or split into 2 clauses, as it is a little too much in my opinion.

NOTING that this region has been releasing false propaganda, has been rude to other regions and nations, spamming other regions' walls in order to purposely irritate them, and creating close to 250 fake nations for their region, with more appearing each day,


This seems to restate all that is said in the first clause. It may be more useful to use this as the first clause rather than the other one. This onee may also need rewording.

HEREBY CONDEMNS Ninja Pirate awesome town, for their bad deeds in the past, present, and future.


How do you know that they're gonna do more stuff in the future? What if they suddenly quit?

Also, take a look at some of the past WASC commendations. They have a lot more clauses than this. I understand that this is just the bare bones of the proposal, but I think it could use a little more... at least for now.... :?
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Postby Potato World » Wed Mar 31, 2010 8:19 pm

Joshuahood wrote:
Potato World wrote:The World Assembly,

BELIEVING


Again, do you believe that they do this stuff, or do you note it? Assert? Recognize? Dismayed that they do this?

that Ninja Pirate awesome town has unfairly been increasing their statistics by creating multiple fake accounts in order to make the region the 21st most popular in the world, making certain people join by using fake propaganda, attempting to reduce the integrity of other regions by saying certain things about those targeted that may or may not be true, and threatening the culture heritage of other nations,


All of this could be reworded or split into 2 clauses, as it is a little too much in my opinion.

NOTING that this region has been releasing false propaganda, has been rude to other regions and nations, spamming other regions' walls in order to purposely irritate them, and creating close to 250 fake nations for their region, with more appearing each day,


This seems to restate all that is said in the first clause. It may be more useful to use this as the first clause rather than the other one. This onee may also need rewording.

HEREBY CONDEMNS Ninja Pirate awesome town, for their bad deeds in the past, present, and future.


How do you know that they're gonna do more stuff in the future? What if they suddenly quit?

Also, take a look at some of the past WASC commendations. They have a lot more clauses than this. I understand that this is just the bare bones of the proposal, but I think it could use a little more... at least for now.... :?


Sorry, I'm kinda new to this proposal writing thing. If you want to edit it directly, I'll gladly give you partial credit on the draft.
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Postby Joshuahood » Thu Apr 01, 2010 2:03 pm

The World Assembly,

NOTING that Ninja Pirate awesome town has recently created nearly 250 puppet nations, boosting their region's ranking of population in the world to 21;

UNDERSTANDING that this move is legal, yet disappointing and unfair;

NOTING that Ninja Pirate awesome town has been using these 250 nations to release false propaganda and spam other regions, decrease other regions' integrity, and threatening other regions' cultural heritage;

FURTHER NOTING that among the regions affected by this is Imperium Sine Fine;

BELIEVING that the actions of Ninja Pirate awesome town should be condemned;

HEREBY CONDEMNS Ninja Pirate awesome town for utilising unfair advantages, spam, and false propaganda.[quote]

Use it, edit it, throw it out as you please :p .
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Postby Potato World » Thu Apr 01, 2010 9:56 pm

Joshuahood wrote:The World Assembly,

NOTING that Ninja Pirate awesome town has recently created nearly 250 puppet nations, boosting their region's ranking of population in the world to 21;

UNDERSTANDING that this move is legal, yet disappointing and unfair;

NOTING that Ninja Pirate awesome town has been using these 250 nations to release false propaganda and spam other regions, decrease other regions' integrity, and threatening other regions' cultural heritage;

FURTHER NOTING that among the regions affected by this is Imperium Sine Fine;

BELIEVING that the actions of Ninja Pirate awesome town should be condemned;

HEREBY CONDEMNS Ninja Pirate awesome town for utilising unfair advantages, spam, and false propaganda.

Use it, edit it, throw it out as you please :p .


Oh wow, that's a really nice draft right there. I'd like to post that as soon as possible.
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Postby A mean old man » Thu Apr 01, 2010 9:58 pm

Joshuahood wrote:The World Assembly,

NOTING that Ninja Pirate awesome town has recently created nearly 250 puppet nations, boosting their region's ranking of population in the world to 21;

UNDERSTANDING that this move is legal, yet disappointing and unfair;

NOTING that Ninja Pirate awesome town has been using these 250 nations to release false propaganda and spam other regions, decrease other regions' integrity, and threatening other regions' cultural heritage;

FURTHER NOTING that among the regions affected by this is Imperium Sine Fine;


Could use elaboration on the specific crimes committed against the region.

BELIEVING that the actions of Ninja Pirate awesome town should be condemned;

HEREBY CONDEMNS Ninja Pirate awesome town for utilising unfair advantages, spam, and false propaganda.


Awkward; will think about how to fix that later.
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Postby Potato World » Thu Apr 01, 2010 10:11 pm

We've now been spammed by 4 separate people from Ninja Pirate awesome town.
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Postby Bears Armed » Fri Apr 02, 2010 3:55 am

Joshuahood wrote:The World Assembly,

NOTING that Ninja Pirate awesome town has recently created nearly 250 puppet nations, boosting their region's ranking of population in the world to 21;

UNDERSTANDING that this move is legal, yet disappointing and unfair;

How is it "unfair" when you yourselves -- and any other region, too -- could do the same?
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Postby Joshuahood » Fri Apr 02, 2010 5:35 am

True that... Maybe it should be changed to "dishonest?"
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Postby Potato World » Fri Apr 02, 2010 7:57 am

Just updated the draft again to fit the most recent agreements on the draft and the region's most recent statistics. (They're now in FREAKING 18th place!!!)
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Postby A mean old man » Fri Apr 02, 2010 8:32 am

Joshuahood wrote:True that... Maybe it should be changed to "dishonest?"


Could also be "unsportsmanlike." I find that's a suitable word for a lot of things people do 'round here...
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Postby Potato World » Fri Apr 02, 2010 9:22 am

A mean old man wrote:
Joshuahood wrote:True that... Maybe it should be changed to "dishonest?"


Could also be "unsportsmanlike." I find that's a suitable word for a lot of things people do 'round here...


I'll add that too.
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Postby Potato World » Fri Apr 02, 2010 5:19 pm

Okay, just modified the draft again. The region's launched a whole new spam strike, and a member has sent me spamming telegrams as well. I want to get this passed as soon as possible, but I don't feel it can get passed in its current form.
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Postby Opwanr » Fri Apr 02, 2010 5:37 pm

I don't really know how to make this resolution better (as I'm no good at writing resolutions), but I'd like to let you know that I will approve this as soon as it's submitted, and that both (that's right, there's only 2) of the WA nations in our region will vote FOR if it makes it to vote.
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Postby Enn » Fri Apr 02, 2010 5:47 pm

Potato World wrote:We've now been spammed by 4 separate people from Ninja Pirate awesome town.

If they're spamming, then report them to the Mods. The SC isn't here to police NS rules, the Mods are.

If the spam is via TG, then report via Getting Help. If it's on the forums, then via Moderation.
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Postby Potato World » Fri Apr 02, 2010 6:19 pm

Enn wrote:
Potato World wrote:We've now been spammed by 4 separate people from Ninja Pirate awesome town.

If they're spamming, then report them to the Mods. The SC isn't here to police NS rules, the Mods are.

If the spam is via TG, then report via Getting Help. If it's on the forums, then via Moderation.


Done already, thanks. Still, I feel it should still be mentioned in the proposal.
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Postby Enn » Fri Apr 02, 2010 6:43 pm

Potato World wrote:
Enn wrote:
Potato World wrote:We've now been spammed by 4 separate people from Ninja Pirate awesome town.

If they're spamming, then report them to the Mods. The SC isn't here to police NS rules, the Mods are.

If the spam is via TG, then report via Getting Help. If it's on the forums, then via Moderation.


Done already, thanks. Still, I feel it should still be mentioned in the proposal.

Including it would likely be judged as against one of the (few) rules the SC operates under:

"2. You've made a proposal about something that can and should be dealt with in another forum, probably Moderation: "The WA should condemn Sparky because he flamed me today in my thread about my embassy because I said his guards couldn't carry nuclear-powered pistols" is O-U-T."

You've got other reasons for a condemnation, focus on them. This particular matter isn't something that the SC is equipped to deal with, so leave it to the Mods.
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