[PASSED] Commend August

[Digory Kirke]

Full support. Maybe add the numbers for Union of Fash nations, for wow factor?

Certainly.

[Digory Kirke]

Seeing as this has gotten no major suggestions for two days and a half, I'll give folks 24 hours to give it a final look over, then submit.

[Willania Imperium]

Well, I see no reason to not vote for this, so...

SUPPORT

[Fauxia]

Well, I see no reason to not vote for this, so...

SUPPORT

I don't either, except that commendations and condemnations are "not worth voting for until voting for" for me. Still, I support

[Digory Kirke]

Submitting this an hour early, just because I have time right now and might not shortly. Thank you, everyone who commented, for all your help on this proposal!

Edit: 147 characters too long! Deleting stuff, will update draft on this topic.

[Kanglia]

And we have reached quorum. I will be voting for this Commendation, as somebody who has known August & has interacted with several of the regions in which are discussed, I believe that the AA, and thus August himself, are truly one of a kind, something that I personally have never seen in the on & off again 6 years which I have been here.

[Drasnia]

When I see August, I support.

[Ransium]

In my official capacity as the WA Delegate of Forest, I am supporting this proposal. From my experience and knowledge of August, I find them worthy of being commended. I find the proposal itself to be succinct, well-written, and well-researched. Therefore, once this proposal comes up to vote I will be voting "FOR" as early as I am able, and I will encourage the WA member nations of Forest to vote "For", as well. I reserve the right to change my vote based on the arguments made by the citizens of Forest and any new information the arises during the voting process.

[Honeydewistania]

I'm against.
The JTF have caused more damage than it did good.

[Digory Kirke]

I'm against.
The JTF have caused more damage than it did good.

Do you care to elaborate?

[Kanglia]

I'm against.
The JTF have caused more damage than it did good.

I would love to see some sources on this statement.
Also, the JTF is not August's only or most important contribution or success, in my opinion

[Digory Kirke]

I'm against.
The JTF have caused more damage than it did good.

I would love to see some sources on this statement.
Also, the JTF is not August's only or most important contribution or success, in my opinion

This. I'm tired of people just making statements without sources, or just saying "I'm against", and then they never elaborate whatsoever. Like, if you disagree with the points the proposal makes, make a damn argument for it.

[Drasnia]

I'm against.
The JTF have caused more damage than it did good.

I would love to see some sources on this statement.
Also, the JTF is not August's only or most important contribution or success, in my opinion

Probably the naive moralism of "all raiding is evil!" or something similar.

[Manaime]

I'm against.
The JTF have caused more damage than it did good.

No, they actually didn't. The JTF may have been raiders, but they did liberate some regions that were being disowned by one of their founders, including mines. So, your explanation doesn't really have an affect.

[Kanglia]

I'm against.
The JTF have caused more damage than it did good.

No, they actually didn't. The JTF may have been raiders, but they did liberate some regions that were being disowned by one of their founders, including mines. So, your explanation doesn't really have an affect.

In reality, the JTF was one of the most independent military organizations in my recent memory of NS, and I personally have defended with and against them.

[Lord Dominator]

It's August, which mean I don't even need to read it (did anyways) to voice full support for this when it comes to vote.

[Aclion]

I'm disappointed that this will not be passed in August but that is my only complaint.

[States of Glory]

I'm disappointed that this will not be passed in August but that is my only complaint.

Yet another reason not to vote for Commend Gay.

[Drasnia]

I'm disappointed that this will not be passed in August but that is my only complaint.

We can always commend September instead.

[Lord Dominator]

I'm disappointed that this will not be passed in August but that is my only complaint.

We can always commend September instead.

Or both. No one will notice

[Pallaith]

I'm surprised no one has remarked on the fact this commendation explicitly mentions the one-day event that just took place. It was my observation over the years that this group does not look fondly on resolutions that recognize these game events as part of the list of achievements. Are such things now on the table for commendations?

EDIT: It appears it may be referring to the first event, seeing as the alliance came in first both times. However, that makes the fact it was not pointed out earlier even more troublesome, as it's been there longer than just a few hours.

[Digory Kirke]

I'm surprised no one has remarked on the fact this commendation explicitly mentions the one-day event that just took place. It was my observation over the years that this group does not look fondly on resolutions that recognize these game events as part of the list of achievements. Are such things now on the table for commendations?

EDIT: It appears it may be referring to the first event, seeing as the alliance came in first both times. However, that makes the fact it was not pointed out earlier even more troublesome, as it's been there longer than just a few hours.

I assure you, that wasn't intentional. If I recall correctly, this proposal has been up longer than the proposal for a second n-day.

Edit: This should have been brought up in the drafting phase if you or anyone here took issue with it. August organized and overperformed in both events, I don't see why this should take away from his commendation.

[Vincent Drake]

Full Support.

Personally, I see no reason to remove the original N-day reference. I wouldn't add the new one, but leave the first. August was able to parlay a good result into massive gameside growth and interest in AA regions that stuck around for the long term. This is similar to how some regions saw a spike from the original Z-day, these mini-games can have real, lasting value in region-building. I would not categorically exclude them just because they are mini-games.

I find what August accomplished in the original to be far more commendworthy than many of the reasons players get commended. I mean, look at one of the other drafts, where one of the listed items is a guy temporarily disbanding his own region! We commend people for founding regions, writing issues, being elected to government positions...what August accomplished in N-day1 without any famous/giant regions in the faction and with mostly regular/puppetless players, is much more difficult than any of those, and to do it again shows a very rare and sustained standard of excellence.

[Fauxia]

Full Support.

Personally, I see no reason to remove the original N-day reference. I wouldn't add the new one, but leave the first. August was able to parlay a good result into massive gameside growth and interest in AA regions that stuck around for the long term. This is similar to how some regions saw a spike from the original Z-day, these mini-games can have real, lasting value in region-building. I would not categorically exclude them just because they are mini-games.

I find what August accomplished in the original to be far more commendworthy than many of the reasons players get commended. I mean, look at one of the other drafts, where one of the listed items is a guy temporarily disbanding his own region! We commend people for founding regions, writing issues, being elected to government positions...what August accomplished in N-day1 without any famous/giant regions in the faction and with mostly regular/puppetless players, is much more difficult than any of those, and to do it again shows a very rare and sustained standard of excellence.

In the eyes of the World Assembly, I don't know if "winning" a nuclear war is very commendable...

[Digory Kirke]

Full Support.

Personally, I see no reason to remove the original N-day reference. I wouldn't add the new one, but leave the first. August was able to parlay a good result into massive gameside growth and interest in AA regions that stuck around for the long term. This is similar to how some regions saw a spike from the original Z-day, these mini-games can have real, lasting value in region-building. I would not categorically exclude them just because they are mini-games.

I find what August accomplished in the original to be far more commendworthy than many of the reasons players get commended. I mean, look at one of the other drafts, where one of the listed items is a guy temporarily disbanding his own region! We commend people for founding regions, writing issues, being elected to government positions...what August accomplished in N-day1 without any famous/giant regions in the faction and with mostly regular/puppetless players, is much more difficult than any of those, and to do it again shows a very rare and sustained standard of excellence.

In the eyes of the World Assembly, I don't know if "winning" a nuclear war is very commendable...

Unless we're commending him for his ability to organize, which we are.