[PASSED] Commend August

[Abhichandra]

For. August has done many amazing things, which are all highlighted in the proposal.

[Pallaith]

I'm surprised no one has remarked on the fact this commendation explicitly mentions the one-day event that just took place. It was my observation over the years that this group does not look fondly on resolutions that recognize these game events as part of the list of achievements. Are such things now on the table for commendations?

EDIT: It appears it may be referring to the first event, seeing as the alliance came in first both times. However, that makes the fact it was not pointed out earlier even more troublesome, as it's been there longer than just a few hours.

I assure you, that wasn't intentional. If I recall correctly, this proposal has been up longer than the proposal for a second n-day.

Edit: This should have been brought up in the drafting phase if you or anyone here took issue with it. August organized and overperformed in both events, I don't see why this should take away from his commendation.

I was simply asking why this was used to criticize past commendations and not this one. I assume it's because it's one part of a much larger whole and many of the others in the past relied in large part or exclusively on the event itself. However, I recall there being opposition to citing the events at all, so I was surprised not only that it was in here, but that no one said anything about it. Please don't mistake this for me objecting to this proposal on those grounds, or negating anything else in the proposal because of it. If we have entered a new phase where these events are acceptable to use in commendations, or this is a key exception to that "rule," I would like to know that (or if it is even a "rule" at all ).

[Alistia]

The Security Council,

Noting that August controls the founding nations of Ridgefield, Conch Kingdom, Lands End, Cape of Good Hope, and Narnia,

Impressed by the fact that it united these regions for some time under the banner of the Augustin Alliance,

Recalling that Ridgefield, under its control, at one point controlled nearly 200 nations at a time when the world was comprised of less than 60,000 nations,

Marvelling that to this day, the Alliance’s former member regions are active and well-structured, while still being diverse in their themes, as a result of August’s initial structuring, with such features as:

• Ridgefield being a small village with mandatory World Assembly membership
• Lands End being a Corporate state, wherein any WA member state may apply for shareholder status, and the shareholders elect the government
• Conch Kingdom being a vacation town, wherein the Tourism Bureau aids new members in getting acquainted with the region, as well as being a constitutional monarchy
• Cape of Good Hope, which takes a hands-off approach to imposing rules, but prides itself in its helpful and friendly community
• Narnia, which permits one to join a royal faction (that of the Pevensies, the Telmarines, the Witch, or the Calormenes),
• International Events such as AugustinVision, which seek to enhance the quality of international relations within the regions
• Strong interregional communication within member regions of the former alliance

Acknowledging that the unity and community within these regions was, and continues to be, largely a result of the Alliance being a uniting factor in these regions,

Astounded by the work it has done for the betterment of the Alliance, including synthesis of regional government systems and distribution of Alliance-related news across the world,

Grateful for the work it has done in guiding hundreds of new nations to success by both its direct actions and its creation of guides about many aspects of the functions of the world,

Flabbergasted by the marvelous performance of the Alliance’s faction (led by August) in the recent Nuclear Apocalypse, wherein it ranked first in the world,

Moved by the aid it has provided other founders in region building,

Recognizing its foundation and maintenance of the Joint Task Force, a military organization that, during its time as leader:

• Occupied, cleared, and locked Union of the Fascist Nations, which was, at the time of occupation, the largest fascist region.
• Participated in the occupation of The Viertes Reich, a successor region to the Union of Fascist Nations
• Participated in the defense and liberation of multiple regions
• Aided in the destruction of the US military, a region that attacked the sovereign territory of the West Pacific

Applauding the encouragement of World Assembly participation among the residents of the Alliance by August, and the success of this program in:

• Making Conch Kingdom 8th in the World for World Assembly Endorsements
• Making Lands End 27th in the World for World Assembly Endorsements
• Making Ridgefield entirely comprised of World Assembly nations

Hereby commends August.

Edit 1: Rule 4 Violation fixed
Edit 2: Second "Impressed" changed to "Marvelling", lines beginning with "Moved" and "Astounded" added
Edit 3: Clause about the nuclear apocalypse added, more sections modified slightly for more detail. More details coming soon.
Edit 4&5: Added Bullet Points under "Marvelling", fixed formatting errors
Edit 6: Added more bullet points!

'Impressed that they created a few regions then merged them into an alliance' not a reason to commend

[CheeseSnackistan]

We're voting for this because we are totally impressed by the use of the word "Flabbergasted" in the body of the commendation... oh, and because we think August well deserves it!

[The Noble Thatcherites]

August is most deserving of the commendation. Much love ❤️

[Digory Kirke]

I was simply asking why this was used to criticize past commendations and not this one. I assume it's because it's one part of a much larger whole and many of the others in the past relied in large part or exclusively on the event itself. However, I recall there being opposition to citing the events at all, so I was surprised not only that it was in here, but that no one said anything about it. Please don't mistake this for me objecting to this proposal on those grounds, or negating anything else in the proposal because of it. If we have entered a new phase where these events are acceptable to use in commendations, or this is a key exception to that "rule," I would like to know that (or if it is even a "rule" at all ).

I definitely get that. Had it been brought up, I probably would have removed it. I certainly don't want to violate SC tradition.

[Drasnia]

'Impressed that they created a few regions then merged them into an alliance' not a reason to commend

When taken into actual context, it most certainly is. The AA rivals any GCR. The AA is so big and active that even UPPERCUT - comprising TNP, TSP, and RP - couldn't even take AA down during N-Day.

Now, events like N-Day usually shouldn't be mentioned, but it shows how much manpower and activity AA and August by extension can muster in a short amount of time. I don't think we've seen anything like AA during my time in NS. And AA was only made possible through August's dedication and expertise.

Few players could ever begin to hope to match August's achievements in region building and administration. He is most certainly commendable in my humble opinion.

[Wallenburg]

Grateful for the work it has done in guiding hundreds of new nations to success by both its direct actions and its creation of guides about many aspects of the functions of the world,

Moved by the aid it has provided other founders in region building,

Recognizing its foundation and maintenance of the Joint Task Force, a military organization that, during its time as leader:

• Occupied, cleared, and locked Union of the Fascist Nations, which was, at the time of occupation, the largest fascist region.
• Participated in the occupation of The Viertes Reich, a successor region to the Union of Fascist Nations
• Participated in the defense and liberation of multiple regions
• Aided in the destruction of the US military, a region that attacked the sovereign territory of the West Pacific

Applauding the encouragement of World Assembly participation among the residents of the Alliance by August,

Hereby commends August.

This is all of the resolution that actually matters. The rest is irrelevant, commends August on the basis of things that would be condemn-worthy, or commends August for things that no longer exist or have fallen into obscurity. I cannot vote for such an unconvincing resolution.

Also, US Military is miscapitalized.

[Digory Kirke]

Grateful for the work it has done in guiding hundreds of new nations to success by both its direct actions and its creation of guides about many aspects of the functions of the world,

Moved by the aid it has provided other founders in region building,

Recognizing its foundation and maintenance of the Joint Task Force, a military organization that, during its time as leader:

• Occupied, cleared, and locked Union of the Fascist Nations, which was, at the time of occupation, the largest fascist region.
• Participated in the occupation of The Viertes Reich, a successor region to the Union of Fascist Nations
• Participated in the defense and liberation of multiple regions
• Aided in the destruction of the US military, a region that attacked the sovereign territory of the West Pacific

Applauding the encouragement of World Assembly participation among the residents of the Alliance by August,

Hereby commends August.

This is all of the resolution that actually matters. The rest is irrelevant, commends August on the basis of things that would be condemn-worthy, or commends August for things that no longer exist or have fallen into obscurity. I cannot vote for such an unconvincing resolution.

Also, US Military is miscapitalized.

I'm not sure why anything in that resolution would be condemnable. All the other things still exist, I assure you. Conch Kingdom, Lands End, and Ridgefield are still quite high in WA rankings. The official alliance might be dead, but anyone in those regions can tell you that there's a common unity still displayed there--as demonstrated in the more recent nuclear apocalypse. The amount of work August has done for the alliance and its regions is still astounding, even if we were only talking in the past tense. Also, [CITATION NEEDED]

[Wallenburg]

This is all of the resolution that actually matters. The rest is irrelevant, commends August on the basis of things that would be condemn-worthy, or commends August for things that no longer exist or have fallen into obscurity. I cannot vote for such an unconvincing resolution.

Also, US Military is miscapitalized.

I'm not sure why anything in that resolution would be condemnable.

Well, the AA faction nuking me in my sleep comes to mind...

All the other things still exist, I assure you. Conch Kingdom, Lands End, and Ridgefield are still quite high in WA rankings.

I don't care about endo counts. Those aren't commend-worthy.

The official alliance might be dead, but anyone in those regions can tell you that there's a common unity still displayed there--as demonstrated in the more recent nuclear apocalypse.

Only because the alliance was only recently dissolved. With time I imagine those informal ties will weaken as well.

The amount of work August has done for the alliance and its regions is still astounding, even if we were only talking in the past tense.

I do not doubt that August has done some fine work. However, too much of it seems to have more or less failed to merit a commendation.

Also, [CITATION NEEDED]

I need to cite my claim that you miscapitalized a region name? What?

[Digory Kirke]

I'm not sure why anything in that resolution would be condemnable.

Well, the AA faction nuking me in my sleep comes to mind...

All the other things still exist, I assure you. Conch Kingdom, Lands End, and Ridgefield are still quite high in WA rankings.

I don't care about endo counts. Those aren't commend-worthy.

The official alliance might be dead, but anyone in those regions can tell you that there's a common unity still displayed there--as demonstrated in the more recent nuclear apocalypse.

Only because the alliance was only recently dissolved. With time I imagine those informal ties will weaken as well.

The amount of work August has done for the alliance and its regions is still astounding, even if we were only talking in the past tense.

I do not doubt that August has done some fine work. However, too much of it seems to have more or less failed to merit a commendation.

Also, [CITATION NEEDED]

I need to cite my claim that you miscapitalized a region name? What?

Ah, someone who was nuked by the AA. Cool.

Encouraging WA membership isn't commend worthy? In the WA?

Those ties have not and will not. There is much discord cross membership, and the regions are still active on each other's RMBs. Your speculation is weak at best.

You keep saying that, but you've still failed to provide any citation to your claims.

[Wallenburg]

Well, the AA faction nuking me in my sleep comes to mind...

I don't care about endo counts. Those aren't commend-worthy.

Only because the alliance was only recently dissolved. With time I imagine those informal ties will weaken as well.

I do not doubt that August has done some fine work. However, too much of it seems to have more or less failed to merit a commendation.

I need to cite my claim that you miscapitalized a region name? What?

Ah, someone who was nuked by the AA. Cool.

Not cool, disappointing. To have one of the leading factions sniping single players is dishonorable.

Encouraging WA membership isn't commend worthy? In the WA?

Encouraging it is a good thing. That's why I kept it among the parts of the resolution I felt mattered. You would do well to read.

You keep saying that, but you've still failed to provide any citation to your claims.

You aren't making any sense. Go to the region page. The name is fully capitalized.

[Digory Kirke]

Ah, someone who was nuked by the AA. Cool.

Not cool, disappointing. To have one of the leading factions sniping single players is dishonorable.

Encouraging WA membership isn't commend worthy? In the WA?

Encouraging it is a good thing. That's why I kept it among the parts of the resolution I felt mattered. You would do well to read.

You keep saying that, but you've still failed to provide any citation to your claims.

You aren't making any sense. Go to the region page. The name is fully capitalized.

I should make it clear, I didn't see the last part about the spelling. Also, the alliance did not snipe single players. You were likely hit by a rogue player in the faction. We hit regions. Finally, if it is commendable, then why did you exclude the rankings? I guess my point is, your criticism of my proposal is either sweeping or oddly picky, and I don't see it as a valid criticism.

[Master Republic]

Finally, a commendation that's worth it.

[Fauxia]

In the eyes of the World Assembly, I don't know if "winning" a nuclear war is very commendable...

Unless we're commending him for his ability to organize, which we are.

Fair enough. Glad to see that this will pass

[Lord Dominator]

I personally doubt that the regions will grow apart. Not least because August is still presumably still active in all of them.
And some of those nations being nuked while you were sleeping may have been me, if it was 3 of them that were destroyed.
Still Support this though.

I mean, look at one of the other drafts, where one of the listed items is a guy temporarily disbanding his own region! We commend people for founding regions, writing issues, being elected to government positions...what August accomplished in N-day1 without any famous/giant regions in the faction and with mostly regular/puppetless players, is much more difficult than any of those, and to do it again shows a very rare and sustained standard of excellence.

Small note, but assuming your talking about 'Commend Ransium,' that's poor wording for saying that Ransium was one of the leaders in refounding Forest back when it was founderless.

[Wallenburg]

Not cool, disappointing. To have one of the leading factions sniping single players is dishonorable.

Encouraging it is a good thing. That's why I kept it among the parts of the resolution I felt mattered. You would do well to read.

You aren't making any sense. Go to the region page. The name is fully capitalized.

I should make it clear, I didn't see the last part about the spelling.

You must have, because you kept talking about it and demanding "citiations" for the spelling of "US Military".

Also, the alliance did not snipe single players. You were likely hit by a rogue player in the faction. We hit regions.

TIL 10+ people == a single person.

Finally, if it is commendable, then why did you exclude the rankings?

Because endo count is irrelevant.

I guess my point is, your criticism of my proposal is either sweeping or oddly picky, and I don't see it as a valid criticism.

So if I'm broad my argument is invalid, and if I'm specific my argument is invalid. I wonder what criticism you would actually consider, if any.

[Digory Kirke]

I should make it clear, I didn't see the last part about the spelling.

You must have, because you kept talking about it and demanding "citiations" for the spelling of "US Military".

Also, the alliance did not snipe single players. You were likely hit by a rogue player in the faction. We hit regions.

TIL 10+ people == a single person.

Finally, if it is commendable, then why did you exclude the rankings?

Because endo count is irrelevant.

I guess my point is, your criticism of my proposal is either sweeping or oddly picky, and I don't see it as a valid criticism.

So if I'm broad my argument is invalid, and if I'm specific my argument is invalid. I wonder what criticism you would actually consider, if any.

1. No, I didn't. Why would you even think I wanted citations for that? I was talking about the wall of unsubstantiated bullshit you had put forth.
2. There are such things as puppets could have been a single person. Also, you really ought to stop being so fixated on this. Your nation got nuked. Cool. So did mine.
3. Literally this entire thread is criticism that I have accepted.

[Wallenburg]

You must have, because you kept talking about it and demanding "citiations" for the spelling of "US Military".

TIL 10+ people == a single person.

Because endo count is irrelevant.

So if I'm broad my argument is invalid, and if I'm specific my argument is invalid. I wonder what criticism you would actually consider, if any.

1. No, I didn't. Why would you even think I wanted citations for that?

Because you asked for--no, demanded--it multiple times.

Also, [CITATION NEEDED]

You keep saying that, but you've still failed to provide any citation to your claims.

I was talking about the wall of unsubstantiated bullshit you had put forth.

What unsubstantiated bullshit? The part about getting nuked in my sleep or the part where the AA no longer exists? Or how about the part where simply having many endorsements isn't commend-worthy? Oooh, such unsubstantiated bullshit.

2. There are such things as puppets could have been a single person. Also, you really ought to stop being so fixated on this. Your nation got nuked. Cool. So did mine.

Puppets have WA membership. Okay.

3. Literally this entire thread is criticism that I have accepted.

your criticism of my proposal is either sweeping or oddly picky, and I don't see it as a valid criticism.

No, it isn't.

[Digory Kirke]

1. No, I didn't. Why would you even think I wanted citations for that?

Because you asked for--no, demanded--it multiple times.

Also, [CITATION NEEDED]

You keep saying that, but you've still failed to provide any citation to your claims.

I was talking about the wall of unsubstantiated bullshit you had put forth.

What unsubstantiated bullshit? The part about getting nuked in my sleep or the part where the AA no longer exists? Or how about the part where simply having many endorsements isn't commend-worthy? Oooh, such unsubstantiated bullshit.

2. There are such things as puppets could have been a single person. Also, you really ought to stop being so fixated on this. Your nation got nuked. Cool. So did mine.

Puppets have WA membership. Okay.

3. Literally this entire thread is criticism that I have accepted.

your criticism of my proposal is either sweeping or oddly picky, and I don't see it as a valid criticism.

No, it isn't.

1. Which were all, once again, referring to your wall of unsubstantiated bullshit. You have done literally nothing to refute that your wall was unsubstantiated, despite all the times I said citation needed. Do you even reading comprehension?
2. Did all of them? Also, could be dogpiling. Once again, never was the alliance ordered to attack you. It was rogues.
3. Obviously excluding yours. Other than spitting out the same arguments And not being able to comprehend my writing, do you have anything else to say here?

[Hybera]

I'm against.
The JTF have caused more damage than it did good.

Me too

[Wallenburg]

Because you asked for--no, demanded--it multiple times.



What unsubstantiated bullshit? The part about getting nuked in my sleep or the part where the AA no longer exists? Or how about the part where simply having many endorsements isn't commend-worthy? Oooh, such unsubstantiated bullshit.

Puppets have WA membership. Okay.


No, it isn't.

1. Which were all, once again, referring to your wall of unsubstantiated bullshit.

1) The only reasonable way to interpret those demands for citations, since you never tied them to a specific claim in my posts, was to tie them to my assertion that "US Military" is capitalized the way it is capitalized. Any other interpretation would have suggested that you have a rather poor understanding of English structure and parallelism, which I did not want to suggest.
2) So my arguments are a "wall of unsubstantiated bullshit"? I seem to remember you complaining about how my arguments are too broad and sweeping. Perhaps you should take your own advice, and a) be more specific and b) cite your claim that everything I have said is bullshit.

You have done literally nothing to refute that your wall was unsubstantiated, despite all the times I said citation needed.

Exactly what do you want citations for? You keep yelling "CITATIONS!!!?!?!?!11!!" but never indicate why you want those citations.

Do you even reading comprehension?

I do, that's for sure. That cannot be said for everyone.

2. Did all of them? Also, could be dogpiling. Once again, never was the alliance ordered to attack you. It was rogues.

1) How many "rogues" does it take before it becomes a faction operation?
2) If a faction's leader is that incapable of controlling faction members, then is their leadership really commend-worthy? Are they actually a good leader, or has their leadership just happened to remain intact above disorganization?

3. Obviously excluding yours. Other than spitting out the same arguments And not being able to comprehend my writing, do you have anything else to say here?

1) So you were lying when you said that "literally this entire thread is criticism that you have accepted".
2) I do not have anything else to say yet, because you have not yet satisfied my initial criticisms.

[Kanglia]

-snip-

In my estimation you are simply against this because you got nuked by the AA.. Talk about sour grapes lol

Happy to see this passing, August is one of the cooler people I've gotten the privilege of meeting during my time on NS.

[Digory Kirke]

1. Which were all, once again, referring to your wall of unsubstantiated bullshit.

1) The only reasonable way to interpret those demands for citations, since you never tied them to a specific claim in my posts, was to tie them to my assertion that "US Military" is capitalized the way it is capitalized. Any other interpretation would have suggested that you have a rather poor understanding of English structure and parallelism, which I did not want to suggest.
2) So my arguments are a "wall of unsubstantiated bullshit"? I seem to remember you complaining about how my arguments are too broad and sweeping. Perhaps you should take your own advice, and a) be more specific and b) cite your claim that everything I have said is bullshit.

You have done literally nothing to refute that your wall was unsubstantiated, despite all the times I said citation needed.

Exactly what do you want citations for? You keep yelling "CITATIONS!!!?!?!?!11!!" but never indicate why you want those citations.

Do you even reading comprehension?

I do, that's for sure. That cannot be said for everyone.

2. Did all of them? Also, could be dogpiling. Once again, never was the alliance ordered to attack you. It was rogues.

1) How many "rogues" does it take before it becomes a faction operation?
2) If a faction's leader is that incapable of controlling faction members, then is their leadership really commend-worthy? Are they actually a good leader, or has their leadership just happened to remain intact above disorganization?

3. Obviously excluding yours. Other than spitting out the same arguments And not being able to comprehend my writing, do you have anything else to say here?

1) So you were lying when you said that "literally this entire thread is criticism that you have accepted".
2) I do not have anything else to say yet, because you have not yet satisfied my initial criticisms.

So the answer to the question on my third comment is "no". Cool. I'll just put you on my ignore list, then.

[Wallenburg]

-snip-

In my estimation you are simply against this because you got nuked by the AA.. Talk about sour grapes lol
Happy to see this passing, August is one of the cooler people I've gotten the privilege of meeting during my time on NS.

You can believe whatever fiction pleases you. In reality, I am against this commendation because it does not provide sufficient basis for a commendation. It undermines August's skills as a leader and lends more attention to things that are either nonexistent or too insignificant to be of note, rather than focusing on the substantial things that August himself has done as a member of the NS community.

So the answer to the question on my third comment is "no". Cool. I'll just put you on my ignore list, then.

I'll consider that an admission that my arguments are valid, and you are unwilling to admit that. Goodbye.